DS23G

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Haven't posted here in a while, so let me answer some questions. First things first though, about the one-route only updates: Jude6 already did a good job answering this, but let me give it to you from the dev himself: From now on, each update will only feature one route. Patrons decide the order by votes, and for the timeframe October to December, the results ended up to be the October update featuring the Submission route, the November one the Deception route and the December one the Resistance route. Next month, there will be another vote to determine which route to update in January.

So, why only one route updates? Well, we are now at the part of the game where each route has completely unique renders and storytelling, meaning the routes won't share a pretty big amount of renders like before. So as long as my current hardware situation stays as it is (I'm working with a 1080ti, not bad, but also not amazing when it comes to putting out alot of renders each day), the only way to provide decent sized updates right now, with quality renders, is to concentrate on one route each update. Believe me, I'd love to put out way more content each month, but my hardware doesn't allow it right now.

Any tipps for Daz 3D amateurs, what G8-Character and morphs were used for Jennifer?
Jennifer is somewhat of a badly optimized nightmare made up of way too many morphs. I was still very early in my DAZ novice phase when I put her together and it shows. Still, visually, I like the end result, but she's a bitch to work with sometimes when it comes to posing and general loading times. But if you still want to replicate her, I can throw together a list of necessary assets, plus the skin textures I build with the Skin builder.

Also -- despite their guidelines, usually Patreon gives zero shits about lesbian incest (they are almost as obsessed with penises as F95). Was there other incest as well, or was that the thing they singled out? And did the dev do it proactively, or did their censorship group actually reach out to him? I'm curious because I've advised various devs to not worry too much about incest with no males involved, and want to know if that has changed.
I won't go too deep into this, but yes, incest was one of the issues they brought up. So lesbian incest is certainly not something they overlook, if they find out about it.

No offense meant... but is there a reason why your game is pushing a 5 gb size while just at version 0.24? I feel like there is probably a lot of waste going on with probably every image higher than 1080p, and possibly some unnecessary videos to explain the size.

Have you tried using a 720p version of your images and renders? In general there is usually enough details at that size to make even the largest of monitors display correctly zoomed without looking bad, and the file size gains by dropping down to that size can remove more than half the footprint of your game. Basically you're probably dealing with unnecessary bloat.

That being said, this is my first time noticing your game, and I was daunted by your file size into not downloading. As a result I have no clue whether your game is indeed bloated or whether the size is necessary. I apologize if it seems like I am picking on either your game or your development of it.
I actually offer 3 different sized versions on Patreon:

- HQ, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossless conversion (6.1gb).
- lossy, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossy conversion at 100% quality settings (2.6gb).
- Android, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossy conversion at 90% quality settings, to keep it under 2gb (1.8gb.)

I tought about scrapping the HQ version at some point, since, tbh, the quality difference between that and lossy ain't really that noticeable. But some people don't mind the size and prefer it and I have bought enough space on my google drive and have a fiber optics connection, so in the end, it's not much of an extra hassle for me to also provide the HQ version.
 

Valrin72

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A sex scene between mom and daughter.
but....there's a sex scene with mom and daughter in v0.24. it's part of the group image numbers 1388-1450 (looks like there's 3 paths in batch). What image numbers where the scenes that were changed? Someone said that v 0.21 where it change, was that the last version with it, or the first version without? I want to see what I missed! ;)
 

Innocience

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but....there's a sex scene with mom and daughter in v0.24. it's part of the group image numbers 1388-1450 (looks like there's 3 paths in batch). What image numbers where the scenes that were changed? Someone said that v 0.21 where it change, was that the last version with it, or the first version without? I want to see what I missed! ;)
1122a..1148a
Not much lost IMHO and it keeps the Patreon.
 

Darkness65

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but....there's a sex scene with mom and daughter in v0.24. it's part of the group image numbers 1388-1450 (looks like there's 3 paths in batch). What image numbers where the scenes that were changed? Someone said that v 0.21 where it change, was that the last version with it, or the first version without? I want to see what I missed! ;)
Last version with incest was 0.21. Like Innocience said, the set 1122a to 1148a were replaced (in code) with the same images of series "b".

The scene in v0.23 with M&D is a sex scene of both with Stan, but not between them, whatever logic that be :unsure:.
 
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estrada777

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Updated Android port. Nothing too fancy but let me know if you have any issues.

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zorin0815

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Jennifer is somewhat of a badly optimized nightmare made up of way too many morphs. I was still very early in my DAZ novice phase when I put her together and it shows. Still, visually, I like the end result, but she's a bitch to work with sometimes when it comes to posing and general loading times. But if you still want to replicate her, I can throw together a list of necessary assets, plus the skin textures I build with the Skin builder.
That would be nice, thanks. I don't intend to 1:1 replicate her.
I'm probably in that "DAZ novice phase" you mentioned. I am trying to create models with realistic skins and "morphable" natrual boobs that don't look like fake pornstar tits (which always seem to ignore gravity) ;)
Thanks for a great game.
 

Valrin72

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May 4, 2017
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Last version with incest was 0.21. Like Innocience said, the set 1122a to 1148a were replaced (in code) with the same images of series "b".

The scene in v0.23 with M&D is a sex scene of both with Stan, but not between them, whatever logic that be :unsure:.
I have versions 0.21, 0.22, and 0.24 and all the pics in the 1122-1148 range are the same and have the mother and daughter making out. As for the scene with Stan, the mother and daughter make out with each other in that scene as well, not a lot, but some.

Anyway, I'm beating a dead horse now. Patreon is stupid and needs to STFU. Just like onlyfans, they're pissing on the people that made them popular in the first place.
 
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Darkness65

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I have versions 0.21, 0.22, and 0.24 and all the pics in the 1122-1148 range are the same and have the mother and daughter making out. As for the scene with Stan, the mother and daughter make out with each other in that scene as well, not a lot, but some.

Anyway, I'm beating a dead horse now. Patreon is stupid and needs to STFU. Just like onlyfans, they're pissing on the people that made them popular in the first place.
Yep. The pics still are there. What I mean is pics 1122-1148 with an a (as in 1122a-1148a) are from one route. The other routes are images with same number but with a b or c. So 1122b-1148b is the same scene but with mom and the daughter's friend, and so on.

To remove the incest, in the script, in M&D scene, the dev replaced the names of the images with the letter a with the image names with the letter b.

I don't recall M&D making out in the scene with Stan in 0.23. But even if it not, it's a threesome anyway. But some rules are weird like that.
 

Valrin72

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To remove the incest, in the script, in M&D scene, the dev replaced the names of the images with the letter a with the image names with the letter b.
Ah, so he changed the files that the script pulls but left the original images (which the game now does NOT pull) so that perverts like me can still extract the files and fap to mother/daughter incest? My MAN! :)
 
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FAP369ZONE

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I actually offer 3 different sized versions on Patreon:

- HQ, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossless conversion (6.1gb).
- lossy, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossy conversion at 100% quality settings (2.6gb).
- Android, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossy conversion at 90% quality settings, to keep it under 2gb (1.8gb.)

I tought about scrapping the HQ version at some point, since, tbh, the quality difference between that and lossy ain't really that noticeable. But some people don't mind the size and prefer it and I have bought enough space on my google drive and have a fiber optics connection, so in the end, it's not much of an extra hassle for me to also provide the HQ version.
You should consider when it comes to LQ version to actually try for WebP format with 95% quality ratio... the difference is negligible when it comes to quality but the benefit of the size reduction is pretty good. IIRC sometimes the images are even bigger then the original when going 100%.

Anyway, since i'm kinda low on space i had to repack some stuff out of necessity but wanted to keep the quality high yet have significant size reduction... what i concluded is that WebP format is the best for this and going beyond 95% QR is not worth it when it comes to size and going below 75% QR is not worth it when it comes to quality.

What i want to say is... big respect for devs that actually optimize their EGame, it is appreciated. :geek:
 

mudkipz

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I've modified Gigan's original 0.15 Gallery Mod and added scenes up to 0.24.

Have also restored the original 1118a to 1148a scenes, and also added the 1425a and 1427a scenes without text. Will need someone to get the text from the Patreon Discord version.

Extract the files into the game folder.

09/11/22 edit: partially updated to 0.36
 
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Carpe Stultus

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Haven't posted here in a while, so let me answer some questions. First things first though, about the one-route only updates: Jude6 already did a good job answering this, but let me give it to you from the dev himself: From now on, each update will only feature one route. Patrons decide the order by votes, and for the timeframe October to December, the results ended up to be the October update featuring the Submission route, the November one the Deception route and the December one the Resistance route. Next month, there will be another vote to determine which route to update in January.

So, why only one route updates? Well, we are now at the part of the game where each route has completely unique renders and storytelling, meaning the routes won't share a pretty big amount of renders like before. So as long as my current hardware situation stays as it is (I'm working with a 1080ti, not bad, but also not amazing when it comes to putting out alot of renders each day), the only way to provide decent sized updates right now, with quality renders, is to concentrate on one route each update. Believe me, I'd love to put out way more content each month, but my hardware doesn't allow it right now.



Jennifer is somewhat of a badly optimized nightmare made up of way too many morphs. I was still very early in my DAZ novice phase when I put her together and it shows. Still, visually, I like the end result, but she's a bitch to work with sometimes when it comes to posing and general loading times. But if you still want to replicate her, I can throw together a list of necessary assets, plus the skin textures I build with the Skin builder.



I won't go too deep into this, but yes, incest was one of the issues they brought up. So lesbian incest is certainly not something they overlook, if they find out about it.



I actually offer 3 different sized versions on Patreon:

- HQ, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossless conversion (6.1gb).
- lossy, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossy conversion at 100% quality settings (2.6gb).
- Android, which is the original pngs turned into webms via lossy conversion at 90% quality settings, to keep it under 2gb (1.8gb.)

I tought about scrapping the HQ version at some point, since, tbh, the quality difference between that and lossy ain't really that noticeable. But some people don't mind the size and prefer it and I have bought enough space on my google drive and have a fiber optics connection, so in the end, it's not much of an extra hassle for me to also provide the HQ version.
I think you should really post how big your VN is without any compression so some people here finally understand it. :LUL:
 

dal776

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Damn, this is one of the best games that I have played in a long time. Great renders, plot, characters, and choices. I cannot wait to see where this one goes.
 

Domdeyso

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the Nopy link is not working this error appears when I click on download. Error 50x can someone help me this has happened in several games for me but no one has given me an answer.
 

zorin0815

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the Nopy link is not working this error appears when I click on download. Error 50x can someone help me this has happened in several games for me but no one has given me an answer.
Neither your nor the games fault. The Nopy service has been getting slow and unstable during the last days and weeks. I get that error quite often and if I don't it's really really slow.
 
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