The restriction on characters aged under 18 and its limits.

[Aeilion]

Hello everyone,

I am creating a game and I was asking myself a question. I do not know if the subject has already been addressed or if someone has an answer to this kind of question but I told myself that I had nothing to lose to ask.

I understand the restriction on the age of characters involved in sexual acts and I know that those who are not can have the age you want. But where is the limit?

Is the sight of a character under age in underwear (lingerie) a problem with the laws if it stops at that? And naked? seen from behind? Standing on a chair in equilibrium on a foot singing kumbaia?
Is it a question of seeing private parts? buttocks are private parts? Boobs? Boobs on a nudist beach?

Sorry if my english is not very good: /

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

Well as long as the girl shows any signs of maturity (for example boobs or able to get pregnant? )and is near the age of 15 i think its fine... thats what the rule says anyways .. As loing as you dont go into full pedo mode its alright..

 

[DarthSeduction]

Hello everyone,

I am creating a game and I was asking myself a question. I do not know if the subject has already been addressed or if someone has an answer to this kind of question but I told myself that I had nothing to lose to ask.

I understand the restriction on the age of characters involved in sexual acts and I know that those who are not can have the age you want. But where is the limit?

Is the sight of a character under age in underwear (lingerie) a problem with the laws if it stops at that? And naked? seen from behind? Standing on a chair in equilibrium on a foot singing kumbaia?
Is it a question of seeing private parts? buttocks are private parts? Boobs? Boobs on a nudist beach?

Sorry if my english is not very good: /

If you plan on putting it on patreon, you're best off avoiding it entirely. However, legally speaking, an underage girl can be naked in artistic context. A real life example, the daughter in the film American Beauty, is played by a 17 year old actress. There is a scene where her breasts are exposed. The scene contains no sexual content, and because of that it's legal.

Coceter Chronicles does feature a young girl fully naked in a bathing scene. Again, no sexual content. However, I'm fairly certain she's also only young in appearance, as she's Fae and the only indicator I've been given for her age is that she's younger than Tabitha was, at 200, when she did the ritual that makes them skip puberty.

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

artistic context.

cant 2d and 3d be called art tho

 

[redknight00]

Hello everyone,

I am creating a game and I was asking myself a question. I do not know if the subject has already been addressed or if someone has an answer to this kind of question but I told myself that I had nothing to lose to ask.

I understand the restriction on the age of characters involved in sexual acts and I know that those who are not can have the age you want. But where is the limit?

Is the sight of a character under age in underwear (lingerie) a problem with the laws if it stops at that? And naked? seen from behind? Standing on a chair in equilibrium on a foot singing kumbaia?
Is it a question of seeing private parts? buttocks are private parts? Boobs? Boobs on a nudist beach?

Sorry if my english is not very good: /

My advice is don't. Technically speaking, underage nudity is okay as long as it is under an artistic point aka not a porn game and it's also permitted as long as they have not sexual content or intent. For example, putting a 15 girl nude in a game people are expect to fap to is not a good idea. Especially considering this sort of stuff is an inta-jail in many places.

 

[Aeilion]

In fact my character is a 17 year old girl. I can easily change to give her 18. But I imagined her being 17 years old so I asked myself the question.

For me all this is quite complicated to understand. The Mc is a guy of 20 years, in reality it is obvious that for him a girl of 17 or 18 years it does not change much thing. (In any case in my country) Besides that, a girl of 17 or 18 years old acts exactly or almost in the same way. But the fact is that in creating the game, things are completely different between a 17-year-old girl the day before her birthday and an 18-year-old girl.

With respect to the law, exposing a person under the age of 18 visually is not allowed and I can understand it. For the sake of this person first of all. But I doubt that my pile of pixels can feel anything about this exhibition ...

I understand or at least see the reason not to represent characters really too young (15 years and under) inadequately but between a person of 17 and one of 18 ...

Which obviously leads me, just like everyone else, to cheat on the character's advertised age even if it means taking away some of my story.

Thanks for all the answers.

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

17 is okay imo

 

[Procrastinator]

Hello everyone,

I am creating a game and I was asking myself a question. I do not know if the subject has already been addressed or if someone has an answer to this kind of question but I told myself that I had nothing to lose to ask.

I understand the restriction on the age of characters involved in sexual acts and I know that those who are not can have the age you want. But where is the limit?

Is the sight of a character under age in underwear (lingerie) a problem with the laws if it stops at that? And naked? seen from behind? Standing on a chair in equilibrium on a foot singing kumbaia?
Is it a question of seeing private parts? buttocks are private parts? Boobs? Boobs on a nudist beach?

Sorry if my english is not very good: /

If the character is involved in any kind of sexual act or any kind of nude/semi-nude scene just make her 18. She can look young-ish, people like the innocent look, but don't cross the line into full on pedo-shit. 18+ people in real life have all kinds of body-builds there is litteraly no reason to make characters in adult games underage unless you are a pedo.

That being said, underage characters (who do not participate in any kind of adult scene) for the sake of a good story are perfectly acceptable in my opinion.

 

[89tasker]

How about a girl who is under-age through most of the game but gets sexed the day she turns 18.

Where she gets into a lot of "almost" situations, growing up together with the MC, but they don't do anything.

 

[RAMW]

With respect to the law, exposing a person under the age of 18 visually is not allowed and I can understand it. For the sake of this person first of all. But I doubt that my pile of pixels can feel anything about this exhibition ...

Thanks for all the answers.

All i can say is that, in the US at least, any sexually explicit image(s) involving anyone under the age of 18 is illegal but also the

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of 2003 which helped target simulated depictions of people under 18yo Prohibits any CGIs "that is, or appears virtually indistinguishable from that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct". So as far as legality goes having a 17yo in your game involved in any sexual acts would be illegal, but as far as the morality of it and whether or not you're hurting anyone it's a real grey area and as for the site a few people above have already stated the guidelines.

 

[tooldev]

Hello everyone,
But where is the limit?

Is the sight of a character under age in underwear (lingerie) a problem with the laws if it stops at that? And naked? seen from behind? Standing on a chair in equilibrium on a foot singing kumbaia?
Is it a question of seeing private parts? buttocks are private parts? Boobs? Boobs on a nudist beach?

Sorry if my english is not very good: /

The real answer for all those questions is: All of it and there is no limit. We are talking the Internet here. That means your content might get distributed anywhere on the globe. Even if your original content was located somewhere safe by distributing it you will probably cross legal lines in many countries without actually having had content located anywhere near them to begin with but distributing it.

 

[redknight00]

The real answer for all those questions is: All of it and there is no limit. We are talking the Internet here. That means your content might get distributed anywhere on the globe. Even if your original content was located somewhere safe by distributing it you will probably cross legal lines in many countries without actually having had content located anywhere near them to begin with but distributing it.

You'll still get in trouble if the cops from your country find, not matter where the content is hosted.

 

[DarthSeduction]

cant 2d and 3d be called art tho

Yes, but you have to also remember the restriction of sexual content vs artistic content. Once the underage character engages in sex it is no longer art. I agree, personally, that these are all artistic and should be allowed under artistic license but sadly we don't live in such a world. As long as the US is governed by its christian moral base and thereby influences public policy the world over, we won't be allowed to differentiate art from exploitation.

 

[DarthSeduction]

The real answer for all those questions is: All of it and there is no limit. We are talking the Internet here. That means your content might get distributed anywhere on the globe. Even if your original content was located somewhere safe by distributing it you will probably cross legal lines in many countries without actually having had content located anywhere near them to begin with but distributing it.

You're only held accountable if the content is distributed in their country. For instance, if you purchase Marijuana from Amstedam and live in london, Amsterdam isn't getting in trouble, you are. So, if you hosted and promoted loli content in japan following the law that the character must be 20 years old, you'll be fine. However if you host and promote that same content in america, you might not be.

 

[tooldev]

You'll still get in trouble if the cops from your country find, not matter where the content is hosted.

You're only held accountable if the content is distributed in their country. For instance, if you purchase Marijuana from Amstedam and live in london, Amsterdam isn't getting in trouble, you are. So, if you hosted and promoted loli content in japan following the law that the character must be 20 years old, you'll be fine. However if you host and promote that same content in america, you might not be.

Thats exactly what i said. It doesnt matter how fiddly one gets regarding one countries law as the content will be distributed world-wide thus crossing legal boundaries constantly. The law of just one country is complex enough to stumble into a trap let alone a whole list of countries. That's why i said there is no limit in where he can fail doing the right thing.

 

[DarthSeduction]

Thats exactly what i said. It doesnt matter how fiddly one gets regarding one countries law as the content will be distributed world-wide thus crossing legal boundaries constantly. The law of just one country is complex enough to stumble into a trap let alone a whole list of countries. That's why i said there is no limit in where he can fail doing the right thing.

No, you misunderstand me. If he wanted to produce content containing underage characters within the confides of japanese law and from a japanese host, with a japanese domained patreon clone, then he absolutely could. The law in america cannot stop him from distributing that content from that japanese domain. It can only go after the person who downloads it. He would remain. He is only beholden to the domain of the host and his funding method. He is not responsible for the actions taken by those from countries which don't follow the same laws.

 

[redknight00]

Thats exactly what i said. It doesnt matter how fiddly one gets regarding one countries law as the content will be distributed world-wide thus crossing legal boundaries constantly. The law of just one country is complex enough to stumble into a trap let alone a whole list of countries. That's why i said there is no limit in where he can fail doing the right thing.

I see, I though you meant there was not limit to how pedo he could go, not the other way around.

 

[tooldev]

No, you misunderstand me. If he wanted to produce content containing underage characters within the confides of japanese law and from a japanese host, with a japanese domained patreon clone, then he absolutely could. The law in america cannot stop him from distributing that content from that japanese domain. It can only go after the person who downloads it. He would remain. He is only beholden to the domain of the host and his funding method. He is not responsible for the actions taken by those from countries which don't follow the same laws.

There are more countries in the world than just Japan or the US. Pick any and you will get trouble.

Random pick. UK: You are by law forced to have any adult content behind a age verification system (just a link agreement isnt enough and it doesnt matter that you host anywhere else).

I could probably compile a list of stuff like this for an entire month and wouldnt even cover 1% of the possible legal traps just waiting to clamp on me. Especially when it comes to Loli and 'underaged' content things get more than strict in most countries (which i personally strongly agree with)

 

[DarthSeduction]

There are more countries in the world than just Japan or the US. Pick any and you will get trouble.

Random pick. UK: You are by law forced to have any adult content behind a age verification system (just a link agreement isnt enough and it doesnt matter that you host anywhere else).

I could probably compile a list of stuff like this for an entire month and wouldnt even cover 1% of the possible legal traps just waiting to clamp on me. Especially when it comes to Loli and 'underaged' content things get more than strict in most countries (which i personally strongly agree with)

I was using them as examples, I used Japan because I know it allows the underage content under their specific laws regarding it.

What you're not getting is that you are only beholden to the laws of the sovereignty in which you host and fund your content. Most games are funded through Patreon, which means you're beholden to the laws of the US. If you fund your project in a nation with different laws you follow them. The creator isn't responsible for the consumption habits of the consumer. If you as a citizen of a country that has stricter laws consume content hosted in a country with less strict laws then you can be prosecuted. The creator however is protected by the fact that they didn't break any laws. You did.

 

[Gomly1980]

Depending where you live is a factor.

I live in the UK, 16 is the legal age here so that's my limit. I know some countries are younger, I believe Japan is 12, but that tends to get frowned on.

To play it safe around 17-18 should keep people happy.