VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Sinful City Fight for Love [v0.4] [Peacemaker]

[Disco Hammered and Chill?]

Is this just supposed to crash in the ending of the latest update?

 

[Riman3]

Good game with potential. I dont know why developer didnt add virginity, incest and harem in main tags, since game mostly using these tags.)) Would atract more people aswell. Aside from that good renders, hot scenes, especially scene with MC and virgin young daughter on leash). Only problem is game need some either walkthrough Mod or inngame walktrhough option, becauselots of routes and people can simply miss some content because of choosing wrong choices and not knowing where that all will lead.
Aside from that hope dev will continue. Game have potential.

 

[johnmnf692]

This game is a mess. It's so close to being good, but is spread much too thin to ever actually get anywhere. A lot of the dialogue devolves into inane babbling about nothing after a while which causes many conversations to drag on for far too long. There are way too many paths and many are unfinished because of this. Many of said paths are broken up completely arbitrarily. This is already a problem, yet we have only dealt with a fraction of the cast which means the amount of path branching will grow exponentially when the other characters also have a bunch of paths.

Also, since MC apparently has a niece (according to dev comments in this thread), meaning that Emma has a daughter, she would need to either be MC's daughter or adopted, otherwise Emma will be a completely ruined character even though her scene is currently the strongest part of the game. If Emma has hooked up with some other guy, it would completely undermine the significance of her scene and her relationship with the MC.

I hope this game can become great, because it has all of the ingredients to be excellent, but it is setting itself up for failure.

 

[moonshadow]

Hm, maybe I've missed something, but I haven't seen or heard anything about the game on Patreon since late August.
Not gonna jump on the 'abandoned' theory, mostly curious if the dev is alright.
Noticed this just a few minutes ago, as I was considering jumping back as a patron for the dev/game, but seeing there's hasn't been a single word for over 2 months, I dunno.

 

[Your step dad]

The best game... this should continue until the end, mainly with stories to Miley and Isi

Funny account

 

[Disco Hammered and Chill?]

This ever gonna get an update? The name of it is bad enough, but the wait?

 

[Ermi33]

This ever gonna get an update? The name of it is bad enough, but the wait?

The last update was three (and a half) months ago! Be patient .

 

[wizardcock]

The last update was three (and a half) months ago! Be patient .

But there`s silence at patreon for over three months. Before that the developer talked about lack of support. So I smell abandonment.

 

[Disco Hammered and Chill?]

The last update was three (and a half) months ago! Be patient .

Just get on with it, dude..

 

[9alwa]

But there`s silence at patreon for over three months. Before that the developer talked about lack of support. So I smell abandonment.

I really hope that's not the case, but I wouldn't be too surprised. That isn't and won't be the first good game that doesn't take off due to lacking support, and you can't really blame the dev for that either. People can't just expect to get updates indefinitely.

It is exceptionally challenging for new AVNs to capture supporters.
On one hand, you have devs expecting support on the first releases, on the other, you have players who aren't ready to commit despite liking it till dev shows a steady pace. It’s a thin line. Very few players can afford to spend money every month indefinitely.

As for the game itself, I personally like it a lot. Without hesitation in my top 3 new releases of 2024. The game has a lot going for it, but I must say it also is/was a bit too ambitious, and the overwhelming number of dead-end paths doesn't make for the best presentation.

I also think the developer failed to grasp that the massive size of the game files and the way updates are rolled out doesn't sit well with some players. I’m convinced it doesn't bother the majority but I also believe the constant whining about it tarnished the game/dev reputation a bit. I believe he shouldve adressed that asap.

 

[Hellster]

I really hope that's not the case, but I wouldn't be too surprised. That isn't and won't be the first good game that doesn't take off due to lacking support, and you can't really blame the dev for that either. People can't just expect to get updates indefinitely.

It is exceptionally challenging for new AVNs to capture supporters.
On one hand, you have devs expecting support on the first releases, on the other, you have players who aren't ready to commit despite liking it till dev shows a steady pace. It’s a thin line. Very few players can afford to spend money every month indefinitely.

As for the game itself, I personally like it a lot. Without hesitation in my top 3 new releases of 2024. The game has a lot going for it, but I must say it also is/was a bit too ambitious, and the overwhelming number of dead-end paths doesn't make for the best presentation.

I also think the developer failed to grasp that the massive size of the game files and the way updates are rolled out doesn't sit well with some players. I’m convinced it doesn't bother the majority but I also believe the constant whining about it tarnished the game/dev reputation a bit. I believe he shouldve adressed that asap.

Well, the trend with developers dumping projects often happens between versions 0.2 to 0.4, so this seems to line up in that range, and because devs do this so often, people are very hesitant these days to subscribe to new developers, hell, even I don't sub to anyone unless I can clearly see they are in it for the long haul, I don't want to be throwing money at a dev only for them to end up dumping the project part way through.
Also, many developers go in to making AVN's purely for the money aspect of it, instead of because they want to make a game, now don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with hoping for some monetary benefits for the work put in to it, but if your goal is to make a game and get rich quick, you may as well save yourself the time and not bother, because there's only a very small number of developers that make good money from it.

 

[Ermi33]

Anybody knows, why it‘s abandoned?

 

[Tatsuya2022]

Anybody knows, why it‘s abandoned?

want me to do spoilers on this piece of junk developer ?

1th he does a too complex plot / story when it should had sufficed with 2 routhes

2th he mades the plot time line goes back then forwords then backwards and all that ... overused it trying to copy other developers i gues ( who have a team of like 4 people to work on a game so they can made it more complex)

3th too many shadows and shadows for god sake better give us black screems

4th and more important - this dude this developer HAS DONE THE SAME WITH HIS LAST 3 GAMES , 3 GAMES and he abandoned them too , changed his name , and stuf but its the same developer , even a blind man can notice that

Mx Modxl Daxgxter - truxxt or Dxre - and this one ... think this developer had some mental issues or something at this point already
...

hope he come backs and update game but puuf

 

[Ermi33]

want me to do spoilers on this piece of junk developer ?

1th he does a too complex plot / story when it should had sufficed with 2 routhes

2th he mades the plot time line goes back then for then backwards and all that ... and overused it trying to copy other developers i gues ( who have a team of like 4 people to work on a game so they can made it more complex)

3th too many shadows and shadows for godd sake better give us black screems

4th and more important - this dude this developer HAS DONE THE SAME WITH HIS LAST 3 GAMES , 3 GAMES and he abandoned them too , changed his name , and stuf but its the same developer , even a blind man can notice that

Mx Modxl Daxgxter - truxxt or Dxre - and this one ... think this developer had some mental issues or something at this point already
...

hope he come backs and update game but puuf

Thx for the info, who could I know that

 

[OhGodNotAgain]

want me to do spoilers on this piece of junk developer ?

1th he does a too complex plot / story when it should had sufficed with 2 routhes

2th he mades the plot time line goes back then for then backwards and all that ... and overused it trying to copy other developers i gues ( who have a team of like 4 people to work on a game so they can made it more complex)

3th too many shadows and shadows for godd sake better give us black screems

4th and more important - this dude this developer HAS DONE THE SAME WITH HIS LAST 3 GAMES , 3 GAMES and he abandoned them too , changed his name , and stuf but its the same developer , even a blind man can notice that

Mx Modxl Daxgxter - truxxt or Dxre - and this one ... think this developer had some mental issues or something at this point already
...

hope he come backs and update game but puuf

...I've never seen someone type with a lisp before.

 

[AmBush-UK]

...I've never seen someone type with a lisp before.

I thought it was a 5 year old typing or a monkey (Jury's still out on that one)

 

[Gari Fuze]

want me to do spoilers on this piece of junk developer ?

1th he does a too complex plot / story when it should had sufficed with 2 routhes

2th he mades the plot time line goes back then for then backwards and all that ... and overused it trying to copy other developers i gues ( who have a team of like 4 people to work on a game so they can made it more complex)

3th too many shadows and shadows for godd sake better give us black screems

4th and more important - this dude this developer HAS DONE THE SAME WITH HIS LAST 3 GAMES , 3 GAMES and he abandoned them too , changed his name , and stuf but its the same developer , even a blind man can notice that

Mx Modxl Daxgxter - truxxt or Dxre - and this one ... think this developer had some mental issues or something at this point already
...

hope he come backs and update game but puuf

Who would have not expected this to happen? (abandoned tag)

Well, what happens when you get fake positive reviews in, and ban people for writing legitimate critical feedback?

I can say about this developer one thing, after leaving a negative review (because I did not like the game - to put it mildly) - I have gone through hundreds of games left hundreds of reviews, and this remains one of the worst games I ever touched. But I have never met someone with an attitude like here.

I was threatened and stalked in personal messages by "developer" himself, after which he reported my review to mods and got it deleted, I was also banned from one website, and here, mods were more gracious and simply forbid me from writing a review.

Instead of acting on feedback to make the game better, he chose to fight with reviewers?

He must have claimed that my low rating for his game is unfair and due to personal feud, which is untrue.

I also noticed that a lot of positive reviews sound fake/ai written, or written by personal friends of a developer. They give 5 - 4 stars for absolutely no reason.

 

[Your step dad]

Who would have not expected this to happen? (abandoned tag)

Well, what happens when you get fake positive reviews in, and ban people for writing legitimate critical feedback?

I can say about this developer one thing, after leaving a negative review (because I did not like the game - to put it mildly) - I have gone through hundreds of games left hundreds of reviews, and this remains one of the worst games I ever touched. But I have never met someone with an attitude like here.

I was threatened and stalked in personal messages by "developer" himself, after which he reported my review to mods and got it deleted, I was also banned from one website, and here, mods were more gracious and simply forbid me from writing a review.

Instead of acting on feedback to make the game better, he chose to fight with reviewers?

He must have claimed that my low rating for his game is unfair and due to personal feud, which is untrue.

I also noticed that a lot of positive reviews sound fake/ai written, or written by personal friends of a developer. They give 5 - 4 stars for absolutely no reason.

Forget it, I tried to help him explain things that I did on other games (working with the devs) I even had the developer tag before, he never answered me even though he was the one who asked me to DM him, a lot of people here try to explain to him, but a dev who uses fake reviews which remove real reviews doesn't bring anything good.

I wish him one thing for him, to learn from these mistakes and to change his behavior and become better, then maybe he will come back with a better attitude and a better game.

 

[Gari Fuze]

Forget it, I tried to help him explain things that I did on other games (working with the devs) I even had the developer tag before, he never answered me even though he was the one who asked me to DM him, a lot of people here try to explain to him, but a dev who uses fake reviews which remove real reviews doesn't bring anything good.

I wish him one thing for him, to learn from these mistakes and to change his behavior and become better, then maybe he will come back with a better attitude and a better game.

If you look at the modern game industry, all of the "critics" review studios are writing up fake reviews, with high scores for bad games. Because review is a form of advertisement, and it is well paid service.

I think, it would be much better for the quality of the games, for fair competition and for the website like this one and not only, if there was not an option for developers to peddle and openly advertise their products. They come here to advertise promote/make quick money/cash grab.

Reviewers can only leave fair review if they have no financial interest, no kickbacks, no connection to the developer.

P.s. I remember I first downloaded this game, it had invisible text (no text outlines) which was nearly impossible to read, 10+ gigabytes of data, one or two scenes? entirely missable as well, some "girl" face that looked to be covered with bleach, and resembled more of a zombie in color, and creepy emotion that almost left me with a psychological trauma.

It also had a bunch of reviews claiming this is the best game, and most promising game, and so on. Which were clearly fake and also the reason I have downloaded it in the first place, with "high" expectations. Imagine, if you do not create high expectations with fake reviews on your game, people may not be as critical.

 

[MrDude1977]

It's no wonder this got abandoned. The lighting sucked when they was at home, I know they was in the dark BUT you don't need to make it that realistic, also why was they sitting in the dark anyway? Also dev spent waaaay to much time on Li's back story and not enough on the MC. I often thought this was a multiple protag game with female protags. The dev clearly doesn't like critism i've seen comments and reviews removed speaking about exactly what i'm saying here. And i'm sure all the 5* reviews or atleast most of the were fake. Just check out the profiles of all the 4 and 5 star reviews, Most of them are newbie members with very little activity.