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Ciaran8023

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I'll drop a final post on what I think could have been done better with the introduction of Lucy.

I don't "defend" anything by the way
I mean you do, that kind of comes with the territory of being involved with the product, but that's just simply being human.

Hyperserver said:
i just give hints about what's comming, so people can have their own thoughts.
As i said: No harm done - not everyone likes everything - that's fine. But just leave then and let others enjoy the game in peace. What you call "dumb plotpoints" might be some crucial stuff for the whole story.
There are already SEVERAL small hints placed around the story which might have been unnoticed for now, but it all will eventually come together - sooner, or later.
I understand that it's a character you want to be around, that being said, even with the game leaning more towards being lighthearted, here's something I think would have worked better;
In terms of Lucy, use Megan as the leverage point between them. Have the MC show up there and get absolutely fucked up, put in the hospital etc. As previously noted, gives a convenient excuse to have the girls care more for the MC and whatnot.

Afterwards, MC being in contact with Megan again, have her try to sort out/investigate the mess. Lucy, at this point, would best work as someone who has worked for Megan before in some capacity, but without Megan knowing that Lucy is connected to the gang. Megan finds out who messed around with the MC, puts pressure on Lucy in turn.

This gives you a way to balance out the situation with Megan being an equalizer, because the thing that makes the Lucy situation shitty to begin with is the massive difference in power dynamics. She's in a gang that - apparently - has no issue killing people and MC is just a kid that's decent at stealing. There's no way to make this work without, as previously noted, either the MC looking like an idiot or the gang.
Having Megan there evens out the power dynamic, ties up Lucy/the gangs hands so that they can't really get to the MC, which in turn makes the situation feel precarious but still leaves room for MC and Lucy to interact, and also makes the gang seem like a threat at that point. From there on you can work towards whatever you want Lucy/the gang to be for the MC.

The vast majority of the time when devs are dealing with organized crime or violent crime syndicates is that they often overlook the importance and influence of power dynamics, that also extends to if you're doing any sort of dom scene with a large difference in power dynamics (i.e CEO to random office worker), getting that balance wrong ends with it just feeling bad more often than not.
It's up to you if you care at all, but I'd much rather outline what could have been done better in my eyes than just assume that it was kept in mind during the design of the game.
 

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Won't reply anymore ....
well - so much for that.....
I'll drop a final post ......
Aside that, about what you wrote ... well.... without giving too much away ... just wait for the very next update, and things will be much clearer.
(even though you are wrong with your assumptions, you might be closer to the truth than you notice *wink)
You are right: Lucy and Megan (both no main Love Interests) are both 2 powerful women - and MC somehow got between them / involved with both of em.
I will not tell any more details for obvious reason, but let's put it this way:
"You are on something - without even noticing - but you got it wrong so far"

EDIT:
Let me point one thing out which you seem to have maybe gotten wrong:
...because the thing that makes the Lucy situation shitty to begin with is the massive difference in power dynamics. She's in a gang ...
Actually, it's even worse ->Lucy is NOT "in" a gang.... Lucy "IS" the gange - it's her gang, she is the leader. And that's absolutely thought through and intended to be like that *smile
 
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The scene with Vivian (or Mom) in the new update is one the the best scenes in any renpy game ever made. Top 10 of all time! Well worth the wait. Sugoi-desu!

Rather confused as to how it says Ariel Special Date Scene is 0/1 when I have done everything correctly in the walkthrough, both in game and the pdf. This is why I don't like multi path in renpy games.
 

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Rather confused as to how it says Ariel Special Date Scene is 0/1 when I have done everything correctly in the walkthrough, both in game and the pdf. This is why I don't like multi path in renpy games.
didn't get it either. not a big deal.
 

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Rather confused as to how it says Ariel Special Date Scene is 0/1 when I have done everything correctly in the walkthrough, both in game and the pdf. This is why I don't like multi path in renpy games.
I posted about this issue a couple weeks ago
https://f95zone.to/threads/thief-of-hearts-p2-ep-5-v0-0-5a-mrdots-games.214581/post-17962761

It seems to be a bug in the code. That variable is actually set in Episode 4, probably a change made for the Episode 5 update. So you need to go back and replay Episode 4 in order to get that status change when you complete Episode 5.
 

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if you haven't noticed, there is a bug fixed version which should have fixed that bug among others.
Make sure to play 0.0.5a without using mods
 

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will not happen at all.
Melody got rejected by steam because the girls look too young. So we most likely will not do any games like that again (with younger girls). We will do rather mature women - not because we like to, but because we are forced to.
Well that's really disappointing. I became a subscriber for DMD as I particularly enjoy the borderline nature of the various LIs. What about a value added official "mod" that includes such characters on SubscribeStar or if they allow it, Patreon?
 
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Thief of Hearts Episode 6 – Tease Me
Hi to all of our supporters.
The hot previews from Episode 6 keep on coming, as we get ever closer to the release!
Tensions run high between you and your colleagues, but not just because you’re down to just the four of you.
Your respective relationships with each love interest will be pushed to the limit, and won’t always run as smoothly as you might think.
This is the case with Vivian, who is starting to feel guilty about what the two of you have been doing and also her fear of what Bella and Ariel will think if they were to find out.
But that might not stop you from continuing to push her buttons.
The question is, how far are you willing to go with her despite the chance of getting caught?
And will she respond in kind, or resist your advances the time?
Check out this weekend’s preview images and let us know in the comments section what you think will unfold with Vivian during the next episode.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
MrDots and the Team
 
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Thief of Hearts Episode 6 – Tease Me
Hi to all of our supporters.
The hot previews from Episode 6 keep on coming, as we get ever closer to the release!
Tensions run high between you and your colleagues, but not just because you’re down to just the four of you.
Your respective relationships with each love interest will be pushed to the limit, and won’t always run as smoothly as you might think.
This is the case with Vivian, who is starting to feel guilty about what the two of you have been doing and also her fear of what Bella and Ariel will think if they were to find out.
But that might not stop you from continuing to push her buttons.
The question is, how far are you willing to go with her despite the chance of getting caught?
And will she respond in kind, or resist your advances the time?
Check out this weekend’s preview images and let us know in the comments section what you think will unfold with Vivian during the next episode.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
MrDots and the Team
It's been a week. And there is new preview
 

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It's been a week. And there is new preview
what can we say? we are ahead of plans. We have a new guy for doing renders in addition to the rest of the usual team, and he is a beast XD.
This is NOT an official announced ETA for EP7, but it might be out in November (please don't get mad if not). AT least the chances for that to happen are not THAT bad....
 
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