Things I don't like about NTR games

[Kadajko]

There are a few things that I consistently notice in games that have NTR that I dislike and would like to get other peoples opinion on this. I feel like these are the reasons I try to avoid NTR games, but also as a side note, maybe I can get a reccomendation for a game that has NTR in which the following things are not the case:

1) The plank for all the characters that hit on MC's love interests is always much lower than for the MC. MC has to put in effort but the other person just has to be there and MC's love interest will be all over them. Example: MC walks into the room with a naked LI - gets shouted at and asked to leave at once, but when the other character with whom the NTR is possible walks in on a naked LI says - stoooph it, we shouldn't do this.. but ok. etc.

2) Love intetrests engage in NTR no matter how well you treat them. You would think that they would engage in NTR if you treated them poorly and neglected them, but they do it regardless of how good your relationship is, all you have to do is allow them to meet the character with whom they can engage in NTR, that is it. I think they should say ''no'' if you did everything right - making sure that they never get in proximity with any other character besides you should not be one of those things.

3) In games with NTR every love interest has an NTR arc. You would think that for some characters it is just not their cup of tea to do such an act, but EVERY character has to for some reason be involved in NTR if NTR is present in the game at all. I think some characters should not be prone to NTR at all because that is the kind of person they are, it is unrelaistic that everyone is prone.

I think that I would play every single game that has NTR if the above three things were not true for all the NTR games. Because otherwise I don't have any problems with the genre at all, as I don't think that MC should be the ONLY one who gets to have sex and relationships in the game, I would be happy to see other characters have sex and maybe grow relationships if the MC chooses to ignore them.

 

[desmosome]

You don't like NTR. You like games where MC isn't the only one who is able to have sex or be in relationships. There is no tag for this so it's hard to find, and the harem brigade will come knocking if any dev attempts to do this.

 

[sonhot]

There are a few things that I consistently notice in games that have NTR that I dislike and would like to get other peoples opinion on this. I feel like these are the reasons I try to avoid NTR games, but also as a side note, maybe I can get a reccomendation for a game that has NTR in which the following things are not the case:

1) The plank for all the characters that hit on MC's love interests is always much lower than for the MC. MC has to put in effort but the other person just has to be there and MC's love interest will be all over them. Example: MC walks into the room with a naked LI - gets shouted at and asked to leave at once, but when the other character with whom the NTR is possible walks in on a naked LI says - stoooph it, we shouldn't do this.. but ok. etc.

2) Love intetrests engage in NTR no matter how well you treat them. You would think that they would engage in NTR if you treated them poorly and neglected them, but they do it regardless of how good your relationship is, all you have to do is allow them to meet the character with whom they can engage in NTR, that is it. I think they should say ''no'' if you did everything right - making sure that they never get in proximity with any other character besides you should not be one of those things.

3) In games with NTR every love interest has an NTR arc. You would think that for some characters it is just not their cup of tea to do such an act, but EVERY character has to for some reason be involved in NTR if NTR is present in the game at all. I think some characters should not be prone to NTR at all because that is the kind of person they are, it is unrelaistic that everyone is prone.

I think that I would play every single game that has NTR if the above three things were not true for all the NTR games. Because otherwise I don't have any problems with the genre at all, as I don't think that MC should be the ONLY one who gets to have sex and relationships in the game, I would be happy to see other characters have sex and maybe grow relationships if the MC chooses to ignore them.

1) To make you feel inferior.
2) To make you feel helpless.
3) Different cucks like different girls hence no girl is spared from that fate. You think cucks would care whether or not it's in the girl's character to do netorare? I doubt it. As soon as a cuck considers a girl his "waifu" he'd want to see her get corrupted by horny evil bastards so he could watch.

 

[papel]

Most NTR is made with the simple "I'm better than that dude" mentality, but without really diving into the "why" the netorarer is better in any way.
The most common reason is the generic "my husbando barely looks at me or cares about sex", so it's all about female sexual frustration.

I'd love if there was a game with NTR, but the twist is that the dude you're cucking was already cheating his wife, so he starts using his lover to lure you away from his wife, OR was using you all along to have a reason to divorce her before she found out. That'd be fun.

 

[DawnCry]

Personally what I like is NTR games in which you can fight it off and rewards the player for doing so, just to give a few examples:

-Capture system:

Concept A: You are managing/protecting a village from external threats, such as goblins, minotaurs... NTR happens if when they raid the village they manage to capture girls and take them out of the village. In this concept our objective is to protect the village and by doing so we would earn trust and end up having our way with the girls, but failing to do so will end up in a different sense.

Concept B: You are a king/general of a kingdom and there is a war, you can capture enemy generals and if female even have sex with them, but the enemy can do the same towards your generals/citicens captured. Enough sex and they will join the country.

Concept C: You are part of an adventurer's party and delved into a dungeon that unfortunately triggered a teleportation, you will have to learn where you are and be careful of the inhabitants of the zone.

-External objects:

Concept A: Adventurers is a dangerous profesion, but not only because of the dangers within the dungeons but the treasures in it, some of them have powerful curses that may mess up your life, or the ones of your loved ones. Basically a setting in which you can trigger curses and it will have an effect on your life unless you manage to overcome them in some sense.

Concept B: The MC is an useless adventurer that has really bad stats but has a really good relationship with 3 girls, while he can enjoy their protection he feels very inferior cause of it, but one day he discovers by accident a magical sword that could increase his talent by consuming the good feelings the girls had for him, which would make them vulnerable to advances from other characters, overall a game about balancing the increase in talent and the love of the girls to have a perfect ending.

Concept C: A normal setting for NTR but giving a decent justification for why it happens, be it for pheromones, mindcontrol... give the player ways to fight it off and I'm cool with it.

-Harem issues:

Concept A: You are a prince/king and you have your personal harem of girls, however none of them love you and have no respect for the harem rules, you will have to balance politics, relationship with the girls and defend against people trying to infiltrate the harem for bad reasons.

Concept B: A normal game in which you can make a harem but it's important to take into account the girl's feelings and their refusal towards that situation. Gotta earn your harem and advance little by little or things can go wrong.

These are just a few concepts of what I would like to play in games, a risk/reward system that gives a feeling of victory, personally I do try to find games tagged as NTR because of how lax that tag is, unfortunately almost never I find something even similar to any of those situations.

 

[Meaning Less]

NTR is about corruption, loss and jealousy. Without those elements you would probably just have a cheating or swinging story taking place, which seems to be more on the line of what you are looking for OP.

 

[Jinsoyun]

I tried a couple of NTR games, mainly the ones by the Sakura studio because i liked the art style a lot. I had the same experience with every single one of them: i liked the art indeed but then i lost interest very quickly, usually even before the first few scenes. In the end it just turns out that i hate NTR IRL and i find it very boring in game.

What i realized is that the aspect i liked was the characters talking about sex. Teasing, funny or sometimes taken just a bit too far and it can still be interesting to me. But since i like these things in any other setting too, so NTR itself doesn't do anything for me.

Maybe you have a similar situation: you found something that seems interesting, but you don't know yet exactly what you were looking for.

 

[Jaike]

There are a few avoidable-NTR games where neglect or cheating is a factor, maybe Seeds of Chaos or Phuc Mi Island will be your thing. I'm sure there are more like those. Just avoid the Miztyl/Insane Erotica stuff with the "oh you skipped arm wrestling against the idiot next-door neighbour on the Tuesday night in the third week, too bad you're a cuck now" trope.

 

[SpoiledPrince]

There are a few things that I consistently notice in games that have NTR that I dislike and would like to get other peoples opinion on this. I feel like these are the reasons I try to avoid NTR games, but also as a side note, maybe I can get a reccomendation for a game that has NTR in which the following things are not the case:

1) The plank for all the characters that hit on MC's love interests is always much lower than for the MC. MC has to put in effort but the other person just has to be there and MC's love interest will be all over them. Example: MC walks into the room with a naked LI - gets shouted at and asked to leave at once, but when the other character with whom the NTR is possible walks in on a naked LI says - stoooph it, we shouldn't do this.. but ok. etc.

2) Love intetrests engage in NTR no matter how well you treat them. You would think that they would engage in NTR if you treated them poorly and neglected them, but they do it regardless of how good your relationship is, all you have to do is allow them to meet the character with whom they can engage in NTR, that is it. I think they should say ''no'' if you did everything right - making sure that they never get in proximity with any other character besides you should not be one of those things.

3) In games with NTR every love interest has an NTR arc. You would think that for some characters it is just not their cup of tea to do such an act, but EVERY character has to for some reason be involved in NTR if NTR is present in the game at all. I think some characters should not be prone to NTR at all because that is the kind of person they are, it is unrelaistic that everyone is prone.

I think that I would play every single game that has NTR if the above three things were not true for all the NTR games. Because otherwise I don't have any problems with the genre at all, as I don't think that MC should be the ONLY one who gets to have sex and relationships in the game, I would be happy to see other characters have sex and maybe grow relationships if the MC chooses to ignore them.

I can give you some IRL explanations for that kind of behavior:
1-Sometimes it's not about WHAT people do, but WHO does it. Depending on the person doing the action and their attractiveness in the eyes of the one receiving it, the outcome can be hugely different. You can be labeled cute or a creep based on that, in spite of the actual action.
Desire is not a meritocracy. There are no walkthroughs or cheats.

2- Different people are subject to different standards. You can have a good, polite/friendly relationship, but your LI not be attracted to you AT ALL. Therefore, for them to do the mental gymnastics needed to bear the thought of your unwanted lips touching his/hers, you have to do something extraordinary that makes him/her self-justify that effort on their part. They have to overcome several barriers: repulsion, lack of interest... While the other guy, the one who ignites their desire only has to go for it: the attraction is there. There's no need for self-convincing.
There are no "turns or calling dibs" on somebody's genitals.
AGAIN: desire isn't about fair play and equality. Sorry, boy.

3-Going for "types" and labeling people based on the very few things you know about them is never a good idea, because you're up for a BIG surprise. people change depending on the company, they assume different roles. The perfect, church-going person for you can be a wild one for somebody else: you haven't penetrated deep enough in their lives to know that side of them. You're merely in the surface while claiming to know their soul.

So my point is NTR games get all that about IRL people and do it somewhat unrealistically, but the lesson is still there.
I personally LOVE when a hetero male MC that was hoping for a harem gets CRUSHED, one vagina at a time: he doesn't understand them, knows nothing about their inner lives, and still wants to harvest them as collector items because he saw them first and pretends to be a decent human to get pussy... so he doesn't deserve them. Time to suffer, basic b*tch!

I wish some brave, adorable Dev did the same for our gay games and implement more homosexual NTR, because most MCs are just asking for it, too.

 

[Dagoth Urgers]

Real NTR has never been tried.

 

[Rafster]

I wish some brave, adorable Dev did the same for our gay games and implement more homosexual NTR, because most MCs are just asking for it, too.

Now how NTR work on a gay game? because let's be honest, if the LI is having sex with someone else, my first instinct is to have a threesome

 

[Meaning Less]

Now how NTR work on a gay game? because let's be honest, if the LI is having sex with someone else, my first instinct is to have a threesome

Ok so go for the threesome, that's just swinging, you can even like them both and end there, no hurt feelings no ntr.

Then let's turn it into ntr now:
But what if this third guys was never really interested in you, so he just keeps giving attention to your love interest after the fact, and before you notice now even your love interest is distant, he avoids you, keeps going out to visit friends.

You ask for sex after that and he keeps denying you, meanwhile you look at his phone and is full of daily videos of him banging that guy and all of his friends behind your back.

That's ntr, it's a plot designed to create jealousy, without jealousy and insecurities from neither character there would be no ntr.

 

[Rafster]

Ok so go for the threesome, that's just swinging, you can even like them both and end there, no hurt feelings no ntr.

Then let's turn it into ntr now:
But what if this third guys was never really interested in you, so he just keeps giving attention to your love interest after the fact, and before you notice now even your love interest is distant, he avoids you, keeps going out to visit friends.

You ask for sex after that and he keeps denying you, meanwhile you look at his phone and is full of daily videos of him banging that guy and all of his friends behind your back.

That's ntr, it's a plot designed to create jealousy, without jealousy and insecurities from neither character there would be no ntr.

Damn, that's a well thought reply. I never played an NTR game, so I wouldn't know. Lucky for me, I would need to modify a lot on my current game to have a storyline like that, so that's not happening, and doesn't sound hot to me. Thanks for the insight.

 

[Meaning Less]

Lucky for me, I would need to modify a lot on my current game to have a storyline like that, so that's not happening, and doesn't sound hot to me.

Well the example I gave I also don't find hot because it is a guy being corrupted, but imagining a girl going through the same can be hot.
And it works regardless of perspective to me, you could be playing as the guy losing the girl, the guy stealing the girl or the girl herself.
Any character going from "waiting until marriage before sex with my love" up to "the town whore everyone has fucked" is just going through an extreme level of corruption really if you think about it.

 

[VegitoHlove]

Yeah, I prefer an NTR game with choice (Both in the "bad" and "good" sense) The pet peeve for me are some of the dumb reasons for the NTR to take place, with my most hated being "Oh my your cock is sooo much big than my hubby's. Lets FUCK!"

I prefer stories more like "I'm in an unhappy marriage. My husband is an asshole/doesn't love me, but maybe I found it somewhere else."

 

[Meaning Less]

Oh my your cock is sooo much big than my hubby's. Lets FUCK!"

Yeah, that's just a cheap plot point to create insecurities for the mc.
It's exactly the same dumb tool incest porn uses, "MOM: wow son, your dick is so big I can't resist" (or porn in general really)
Some males just have an abnormal fixation with dick sizes I guess.

But it certainly is not necessary, and there is plenty of the opposite in ntr also, where the girls get corrupted by ugly perverts that sometimes gain them by pure persistence.

 

[woody554]

I feel like you've missed the point of ntr. as all of your problems are integral to the ntr fetish. they are the exact things ntr people are looking for.

1) the bar is low because it's MEANT to feel unfair. ntr is a form of masochism. you're meant to feel powerless, jealous and painfully betrayed by your girl. that's what gets the ntr cock hard.

2) same as above. in an ntr game when you do everything RIGHT, your reward is the girl fucking the worst person in the game.

3) well if it's an ntr game it's gonna focus on that. every girl is gonna betray you and make you cry. just like big tit games are not gonna have any flat-chested girls.