Thoughts on sharing, group sex, polyamorous relationships and losing love interests

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Hi! I'm a new dev who has been working on a game for a while now. There are a few things I would like to do with my story that I think would be very interesting, but I'm worried that including certain topics/fetishes/scenes would drive away potential players. In my case, all of the following would be optional and/or avoidable. I'm also willing to completely remove certain things as long as it doesn't affect my vision for the game. While I understand that I would never be able to please everyone, I think learning about what people would generally find appealing and unappealing would be very useful. I would like to know your thoughts and the general community's opinions on the following topics:

Sharing: From what I've been able to gather, people don't seem to be too keen on sharing their love interest with another person. Whether it's a threesome with another male character or having your love interest interact sexually with another woman, there seems to be a negative response to this type of content. Am I wrong? Could I just be viewing a vocal minority or is this type of content truly unwanted by general audiences?

Group sex: Similar to sharing, I'm under the impression that many don't enjoy this type of content. Group sex could mean a number of things. If possible, I would like to know your thoughts on each of the following interpretations: gangbang (multiple males engaging in sexual acts with a single female), reverse gangbang (multiple females engaging in sexual acts with a single male/MC) and orgy (a group of people comprised of both males and females engaging in unrestricted sexual acts with one another)

Polyamorous relationships: There seems to be a lot of love for harem in games, but somewhat disapproval for polyamory. I can understand that people who don't like sharing would be opposed to a male-male-female relationship. However, I've seen a few cases where people who love harem are strongly against male-female-female relationships. From what I understand, these people want their female love interests to only interact sexually with the MC and not with each other. I find this odd, how about you?

Voyeurism: When thinking of voyeurism, I figure most would think of it as spying on a love interest masturbating. This is very popular and widely accepted. What I'm specifically wondering about is lesbian voyeurism. As in, the (male) MC spying or watching lesbian sexual acts. It seems to me (from what I've seen at least) that lesbian sex and relationships, in general, are a bit unpopular. Or that there are few that are very vocal about their distaste for it. I can understand why many would not like to watch a heterosexual scene where the MC isn't involved as it is reminiscent of NTR, which is notoriously unpopular and hated. But I would like to know your thoughts on it regardless.

NTR: NTR can be described or interpreted in various ways. For the sake of this thread, I want to know how you feel about failing. As in, not being able to win over a certain love interest and having them enter a relationship with another person. You don't have to watch that character engage in anything with their new partner (although, there could be an option for it). It could also be a case where this wouldn't happen unless you reject that love interest yourself. This could or could not count as NTR depending on the person, so I thought I should name it as such just to be safe.

Imposter?: I honestly don't know if there is a name for this, but I will try my best to describe it. How would you or the general community react to scenes where the MC assumes the identity of another character and engages in sexual acts with another while using that false identity. Specifically, the MC would look and sound like someone else through some advanced technology, hypnosis or magic and the love interest would believe the MC to be that other person. I don't even know if this could even be considered NTR (you're cucking yourself with yourself?), but I would love to know your thoughts.

And that is all! I understand that this is a fairly lengthy post and many wouldn't want to bother putting in the time to answer these questions (or read the post. I apologize if this was poorly structured or written in a confusing manner.), but for any who do I would greatly appreciate it!
 
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None of those work for me. That being said you shouldn't change anything because you're worried about other people not enjoying it. Make what you're interested in. If it's good it will gain an audience.
 
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You will always find people complaining about literally everything.

Instead of worrying about what other people want instead worry about what you want in your game. That way you will at least attract similar minded people.

When you start adding a bunch of things just because other people are asking for it you will turn your project into a generic frankenstein, especially if you don't enjoy those kinks yourself.
 

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Sharing: Meh.
Group sex: Meh, unless FFM (or FFFM etc.) with a villain/scumbag male (see Overwhored, Tyrant Quest etc.). MC or NTR.
Polyamorous: Ditto.
Lesbian voeyurism: Meh.
Avoidable NTR: Hard to pull off properly, and imo not ideal. Players who want to see it will want to intentionally play worse to make it happen, and players who want to avoid it will not see the content (or they'll fail, see the NTR and get angry).
Imposter: Meh.
 
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No opinion. The trainer/power play crowd probably likes it more.
Group sex: (...) gangbang (multiple males engaging in sexual acts with a single female), reverse gangbang (multiple females engaging in sexual acts with a single male/MC) and orgy (a group of people comprised of both males and females engaging in unrestricted sexual acts with one another)
No opinion. Appears to be very common in all kinds of pornography, so likely only disliked by a minority.
Polyamorous relationships: There seems to be a lot of love for harem in games, but somewhat disapproval for polyamory.
There should be more of it. It's fairer than "everyone is my personal sex doll".
Voyeurism: (....) What I'm specifically wondering about is lesbian voyeurism.
No difference. Either way the fetish is about watching naked (or sex-having) people unaware of your ninja skills presence.
NTR: NTR can be described or interpreted in various ways. For the sake of this thread, I want to know how you feel about failing. As in, not being able to win over a certain love interest and having them enter a relationship with another person.
If they don't end up in a relationship with the protagonist and find someone else later then it's more wholesome (compared to those depressing "find one true love" harems that have you solving everyone's problems but only on their individual routes, and on the meta level you know that saving character A from a stalker means no one paying off character B's debts or helping character C overcome their trauma, and no one will attend character D's birthday party).
Imposter?: (...) Specifically, the MC would look and sound like someone else through some advanced technology, hypnosis or magic and the love interest would believe the MC to be that other person.
I think it comes up sometimes in rape roleplay stories? Either as the viewer being in the dark about it until the end, or a molester revealing themselves and it turning lovey-dovey.

But as fyl3toys and Meaning Less have said, do what you want. Complaints about something are often more visible only because if something doesn't bother you there's no urge to "fix it" by voicing your opinion.
 

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Hi! I'm a new dev who has been working on a game for a while now. There are a few things I would like to do with my story that I think would be very interesting, but I'm worried that including certain topics/fetishes/scenes would drive away potential players. In my case, all of the following would be optional and/or avoidable. I'm also willing to completely remove certain things as long as it doesn't affect my vision for the game. While I understand that I would never be able to please everyone, I think learning about what people would generally find appealing and unappealing would be very useful. I would like to know your thoughts and the general community's opinions on the following topics:
Insert standerd make the game you want reply.
All of these are my point of view and probley not shared by most.

Sharing: From what I've been able to gather, people don't seem to be too keen on sharing their love interest with another person. Whether it's a threesome with another male character or having your love interest interact sexually with another woman, there seems to be a negative response to this type of content. Am I wrong? Could I just be viewing a vocal minority or is this type of content truly unwanted by general audiences?
A lot of people view sharing as ntr.
I used to find it disguisting now i find it hot to share my property by either whoring them out of using them to get favor's.
The key thing is i am sharing because i got control over them and use them to get something i want.
Sharing them without the context of i am using them still disguist me.
I own you.
This is not a relationship of equals.

Group sex: Similar to sharing, I'm under the impression that many don't enjoy this type of content. Group sex could mean a number of things. If possible, I would like to know your thoughts on each of the following interpretations: gangbang (multiple males engaging in sexual acts with a single female), reverse gangbang (multiple females engaging in sexual acts with a single male/MC) and orgy (a group of people comprised of both males and females engaging in unrestricted sexual acts with one another)
It depends on the context.
Having womans blow both of you where your making a deal is good.
Spite roasting a woman while watching the news of your latest succces is good.
Having an other man sperm in her pussy while i try to fuck her is bad.
I am fine with letting my friends and allies use my slave's as it keeps them loyal.
But if we are talking about sex that isnt:
Use her as a barganing chip.
Then no.
If there is any man involved outside of myself he is a dead man.
I am fine with mffffffffffffffffff*
I however do not enjoy having an other male there if it isnt mean as a degrading of the woman to a sex toy for our pleasure in the same way i would share a boll of ships with a friend.

*Add as many females as you want.


Polyamorous relationships: There seems to be a lot of love for harem in games, but somewhat disapproval for polyamory. I can understand that people who don't like sharing would be opposed to a male-male-female relationship. However, I've seen a few cases where people who love harem are strongly against male-female-female relationships. From what I understand, these people want their female love interests to only interact sexually with the MC and not with each other. I find this odd, how about you?
That does seem odd.
I like my bitches to keep eachother busy when am not fucking them.
I can not be there all the time and this was they stay nice and horny.
Also i prefer it if they get along.
Having to solve rivalry and jelousy is a pain in there butt.

Voyeurism: When thinking of voyeurism, I figure most would think of it as spying on a love interest masturbating. This is very popular and widely accepted. What I'm specifically wondering about is lesbian voyeurism. As in, the (male) MC spying or watching lesbian sexual acts. It seems to me (from what I've seen at least) that lesbian sex and relationships, in general, are a bit unpopular. Or that there are few that are very vocal about their distaste for it. I can understand why many would not like to watch a heterosexual scene where the MC isn't involved as it is reminiscent of NTR, which is notoriously unpopular and hated. But I would like to know your thoughts on it regardless.
Yeah i dont get the appeal of this.
Looking but not touching?
Pass.
Same with fantasying about it.
Not interested.
I want to touch.
Not just watch.

NTR: NTR can be described or interpreted in various ways. For the sake of this thread, I want to know how you feel about failing. As in, not being able to win over a certain love interest and having them enter a relationship with another person. You don't have to watch that character engage in anything with their new partner (although, there could be an option for it). It could also be a case where this wouldn't happen unless you reject that love interest yourself. This could or could not count as NTR depending on the person, so I thought I should name it as such just to be safe.
Hard pass.
The only time i find this acceptable is as a failure condition.
As something the player gets because he failed.
And not because i picked the wrong option or it is part of the story.
For example: In the tyrant ntr only happends if there relationship with you drops below 0.
That is fine.
It means i as a player failed to grind the easy to grind relationship state(just talk to them regularly)
There if it happends because i didnt pick answer y 3 chapters ago.
While if your game needs a walkthrough its a bad game.

Imposter?: I honestly don't know if there is a name for this, but I will try my best to describe it. How would you or the general community react to scenes where the MC assumes the identity of another character and engages in sexual acts with another while using that false identity. Specifically, the MC would look and sound like someone else through some advanced technology, hypnosis or magic and the love interest would believe the MC to be that other person. I don't even know if this could even be considered NTR (you're cucking yourself with yourself?), but I would love to know your thoughts.
A tool.
While i detest lying there is no denying its usefullness.
But that is all it is.
A tool.

I hoped it helped.
Keep in mind that people are different and have different taste.
As a maledom lover and sadist i am very much into bitch breaking but femdom is a hard pass.
Unless its one of my slave's dominating an other female slave.
Then it is hot.
In short for me sex is about power.
And i do not share power.
You belong to me is the only acceptable outcome.
 

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Avoidable NTR: Hard to pull off properly, and imo not ideal. Players who want to see it will want to intentionally play worse to make it happen, and players who want to avoid it will not see the content (or they'll fail, see the NTR and get angry).
Depends on how you look at it. It can be good if the NTR content is limited to a failure condition or game over screen, for example, and focus on the non-NTR content if you win against the adversary. I have plans to implement something like that in the future on my game, I'm not into NTR at all, but it will be a game over screen if you don't meet certain requirements (easily achievable, as my game is too easy) at a certain point of the game, as a failure condition.

This will anger the NTR fans who expect hardcore content if you lose... but it is what it is. I'll be damn clear on the game's description.

The only time i find this acceptable is as a failure condition.
Yup. That's my vision.
 
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Its rather simple, a substantial amount of people go ballistic if there's another penis in the game. My advice to you is, do what you enjoy. Forget about others, especially at the start.

I play all types of games, but i enjoy the sharing/NTR ones more for one simple reason. Content. I play these games to jerk off, not to immerse myself into some convoluted crappy world and become the MC. Playing the 100th harem game where the MC is this god of sex which all women fall for gets stale after a while, even the sex scenes become boring. You can only do so much if you're absolutely not allowed another penis (or more) in the game.
 
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Hi! I'm a new dev who has been working on a game for a while now. There are a few things I would like to do with my story that I think would be very interesting, but I'm worried that including certain topics/fetishes/scenes would drive away potential players. In my case, all of the following would be optional and/or avoidable. I'm also willing to completely remove certain things as long as it doesn't affect my vision for the game. While I understand that I would never be able to please everyone, I think learning about what people would generally find appealing and unappealing would be very useful. I would like to know your thoughts and the general community's opinions on the following topics:
Rule #1 as dev....

Make the game YOU want.

However... Here are my opinions.

Sharing: From what I've been able to gather, people don't seem to be too keen on sharing their love interest with another person. Whether it's a threesome with another male character or having your love interest interact sexually with another woman, there seems to be a negative response to this type of content. Am I wrong? Could I just be viewing a vocal minority or is this type of content truly unwanted by general audiences?
Hard pass. Humans aren't tools. I can share my cookies with you but not a person.

Group sex: Similar to sharing, I'm under the impression that many don't enjoy this type of content. Group sex could mean a number of things. If possible, I would like to know your thoughts on each of the following interpretations: gangbang (multiple males engaging in sexual acts with a single female), reverse gangbang (multiple females engaging in sexual acts with a single male/MC) and orgy (a group of people comprised of both males and females engaging in unrestricted sexual acts with one another)
In MFF or MFFF, up to harem scenarios sure. No other men for me though.

Polyamorous relationships: There seems to be a lot of love for harem in games, but somewhat disapproval for polyamory. I can understand that people who don't like sharing would be opposed to a male-male-female relationship. However, I've seen a few cases where people who love harem are strongly against male-female-female relationships. From what I understand, these people want their female love interests to only interact sexually with the MC and not with each other. I find this odd, how about you?
In a harem scenario yes. Where the girls are in a relationship with each other as well.

Voyeurism: When thinking of voyeurism, I figure most would think of it as spying on a love interest masturbating. This is very popular and widely accepted. What I'm specifically wondering about is lesbian voyeurism. As in, the (male) MC spying or watching lesbian sexual acts. It seems to me (from what I've seen at least) that lesbian sex and relationships, in general, are a bit unpopular. Or that there are few that are very vocal about their distaste for it. I can understand why many would not like to watch a heterosexual scene where the MC isn't involved as it is reminiscent of NTR, which is notoriously unpopular and hated. But I would like to know your thoughts on it regardless.
IMHO boring.

NTR: NTR can be described or interpreted in various ways. For the sake of this thread, I want to know how you feel about failing. As in, not being able to win over a certain love interest and having them enter a relationship with another person. You don't have to watch that character engage in anything with their new partner (although, there could be an option for it). It could also be a case where this wouldn't happen unless you reject that love interest yourself. This could or could not count as NTR depending on the person, so I thought I should name it as such just to be safe.
HARD pass. Just no. Great choice if you want the ABANDONED tag early.

Imposter?: I honestly don't know if there is a name for this, but I will try my best to describe it. How would you or the general community react to scenes where the MC assumes the identity of another character and engages in sexual acts with another while using that false identity. Specifically, the MC would look and sound like someone else through some advanced technology, hypnosis or magic and the love interest would believe the MC to be that other person. I don't even know if this could even be considered NTR (you're cucking yourself with yourself?), but I would love to know your thoughts.
Meh... Seems unnecessary and convoluted.
 
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I’m ok with sharing & ntr. Tired of vanilla game out there so more game with exotic tags is a good sign.
 
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Some thoughts as a dev a player:

1. Add the fetishes that turn you on. Working on an adult game is a lonely and hard work, you need all the incentives you can include in order to drive yourself forward. No matter what fetishes you include, if they are not completely esoteric, there are hundreds, if not thousands of people who'll enjoy them. If you write the fetishes with passion, the fans will follow and support you.

2. There are sensitive fetishes and mainstream fetishes. For sensitive fetishes try to:
A. Communicate them in advance. Never surprise a player with a sensitive fetish.
B. Make the sensitive fetish avoidable (if they are not the core of your game).
C. Allow them to be toggled off.

3. Polyamorous relationships - think good and hard how you implement them in a game and don't drown yourself in a bottomless pit of conditions. The best approach would be to "silo" the characters as much as possible, i.e. each one's story operates as isolated as possible from the others.

I wish you good luck a a lot of patience.
 

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Now you've read some opinions on it, just forget this thread and do whatever you wanted to do at first. There are lots of people who don't like any of the options you mentioned. There are even more people (probably) who either like them or simply tolerate them as long as they are avoidable and/or well implemented. Just be clear about it, and be ready to deal with angry comments from those who will still feel attacked by the content in your game.

If you say you find some mindsets odd, you are not making anyone a favour by accepting those views and castrating your game. It seems you are building a complex world where characters from both genres engage in different kinds of relationships, like people do in real life. Now think how this world would look like if you censor yourself and keep the sexual interactions at that minimum set by these mindsets you already find odd. Would you like it? Or would you feel it's kind of empty and unnatural, according to your initial view of it? Would you be proud of your creation? Those are the questions you have to answer.
 
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I'm okay with sharing and group sex as long as there is no romance or friendliness whatsoever. Not what I would look for specifically anyways. Except if there's only females aside from the MC, then idc if there's romance. Not into plyamorous relationships.

Voyeurism I find it extremely boring. There is not a single spying scene I don't skip.

NTR and Imposter I don't like. The first is outright depressing and the second is just boring and weird.
 

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Hello, all! I am pleasantly surprised at just how many people answered my thread. I thank you all for your replies and opinions! There are a few things I would like to say, but first I would like to clear a few things up.

My primary goal with this project is to provide an interesting and engaging story about morality, responsibility, class and identity. My objective is to take the player on a journey where they will at times be forced to make tough decisions with realistic consequences and to have them meet, interact and form relationships with complex and intriguing characters with differing opinions and world views that will hopefully influence how the MC (and player) views the world presented to them in a meaningful way. It will be a VN with no free roam (at the time being, I don't believe that to be something beneficial to the game) that has 2 main paths: corruption and romance. Both of these have their own justifications, philosophies and moral consequences for following. It will also contain 3 main endings, each with its own upsides and downsides. I'm opposed to the idea of "happy endings" where everything is perfect and everyone is happy. Rather, I believe bittersweet endings to be more realistic and impactful. There will be no game-overs, nor will you need a walkthrough to play. Making mistakes is part of the game (and life) and being able to rectify those mistakes or try your best to ameliorate any wrongdoings is one of the themes of the story. If you picked the wrong choice once that threw you off someone's path, you should have the opportunity to get back on that path a few more times. (As an accommodation for those who want to unlock every scene, but don't want to replay the game or those who were on a certain path and somehow missed a scene or two with their preferred love interest, I have the idea to include a "cheat" unlock gallery feature for simply playing the game. For example: if you want to have the option to unlock every scene in chapter 1, all you would have to do is complete chapter 2.)

I realize that these ideas alone will alienate or drive away a decent portion of the general community. Many who want to play adult games to feel powerful and treat others poorly without any consequences will be disappointed. Those who want an easy harem where every girl is at their beck and call and have no issues with any of the player's actions will also be left dissatisfied. I understand and respect those who want to play adult games as a way to escape the troubles of the real world and wish to feel like a god in their fiction, but that is simply not the story I want to tell.

That being said, I have no intentions on compromising my vision for the sake of pleasing a few individuals. Any changes I would make to the story would have to be carefully considered and be in the interest of creating a better experience. The only exception would be if the game is unanimously hated. In which case, I have clearly done something wrong with regards to the story, presentation, characters and/or visuals and would have to analyze and improve upon those mistakes.

The reason why I asked you all about your's and the wider community's thoughts on those topics was because I have seen a few times where some have gotten very upset about the inclusion of those and other tags, be it optional or not. I feared many wouldn't even consider playing when seeing such tags or when being presented with the option to view such content. In particular, I was very surprised at the vocal few (or many) that have a huge displeasure for the inclusion of any kind of lesbian content. I understand that there are a few who play games with tags they dislike for the sake of seeing if the game itself is good. I truly respect that as I do the same, but I can't help but fear the worst in cases like this. I know I should just focus on my craft and ignore the thought of people ignoring my game, but I am the type of person who tends to worry a lot about certain things.

As for the idea of only including fetishes that I particularly enjoy. While that is a good idea for most, I am someone who is fascinated with the myriad of fetishes that exist and aims to try to understand the mindset and mentality of each of them. Over the years, I have come to appreciate many fetishes I once found revolting (such as gangbang), while not necessarily adopting that fetish for myself (such as pregnancy). There are still those I can't understand at all despite trying, but perhaps more study is needed (gore, scat, etc.)

As a closing statement for this long post (once again, I apologize. I tend to have too much to say.), I would like to once again thank all of those who commented and gave their opinions. It was greatly appreciated and very informative! If there are any who would like to continue to give their thoughts and opinions on the subjects above, you are very much welcome to do so! I will gladly read anything any of you have to say!
 
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I know I should just focus on my craft and ignore the thought of people ignoring my game, but I am the type of person who tends to worry a lot about certain things.
There you are, you answered yourself.

As long as you're clear and honest on the game's overview/dev notes, go wild and include whatever fetishes you want. Sometimes we are our worst enemies.

And it's curious, why would someone be against lesbian sex? I thought all the straight guys drool for them (don't ask me. I'm gay. I avoid it like the plague). It's not like adding gay content which make people run to the hills. You thought NTR is a problem? add gay content on a game.

The only valid complaint, and this comes more from how F95 handles the tags, is from those who seek full lesbian protagonist/lesbian paths using the lesbian tag, and you only have one scene of it (it's also the eternal problem of the gay tag), but it comes down to what I said before: Be honest on the tags you include and how much content is on the game. If you're going to add one or two lesbian scenes, do it for fucks sake. But warn players that there is not a lesbian MC or a full lesbian path beforehand.
 

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There you are, you answered yourself.

As long as you're clear and honest on the game's overview/dev notes, go wild and include whatever fetishes you want. Sometimes we are our worst enemies.

And it's curious, why would someone be against lesbian sex? I thought all the straight guys drool for them (don't ask me. I'm gay. I avoid it like the plague). It's not like adding gay content which make people run to the hills. You thought NTR is a problem? add gay content on a game.

The only valid complaint, and this comes more from how F95 handles the tags, is from those who seek full lesbian protagonist/lesbian paths using the lesbian tag, and you only have one scene of it (it's also the eternal problem of the gay tag), but it comes down to what I said before: Be honest on the tags you include and how much content is on the game. If you're going to add one or two lesbian scenes, do it for fucks sake. But warn players that there is not a lesbian MC or a full lesbian path beforehand.
I couldn't believe it either, but yeah, some straight guys just don't like lesbian sex. And there's another group of people who think it's NTR, as the gender doesn't matter to them when it comes to a NTR-ish situation: in the end it's just a LI having sex with another NPC
 
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And it's curious, why would someone be against lesbian sex? I thought all the straight guys drool for them (don't ask me. I'm gay. I avoid it like the plague). It's not like adding gay content which make people run to the hills. You thought NTR is a problem? add gay content on a game.
I've seen two or three users ranting how bisexual or lesbian women in female protagonist games is some agenda against straight women who only want the D in their games.

If it's guys complaining it's probably from growing up in an environment hostile to homosexuality.
 
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You thought NTR is a problem? add gay content on a game.
Funnily enough, I do plan on including a single optional gay route featuring a trap character. However, I didn't mention it because he adds too much to the story and so I have no intentions of removing him.
 
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I've seen two or three users ranting how bisexual or lesbian women in female protagonist games is some agenda against straight women who only want the D in their games.
Damn, that's so fucked up... but again, I'm gay, so these guys must be the same that the ones who tells me constantly that I have an agenda .. and I have one, where I have all my appointments :LOL: and passwords (hand writing is so old-school now)

If it's guys complaining it's probably from growing up in an environment hostile to homosexuality.
It's so sad seeing this kind of people here, I mean, come on, we're all perverts here.

Funnily enough, I do plan on including a single optional gay route featuring a trap character. However, I didn't mention it because he adds too much to the story and so I have no intentions of removing him.
Tread carefully there man. I know you don't want to spoil it but believe me, surprise dick will make an outburst almost as bad as surprise NTR. If you're also going to get the gay tag because of this, added to the lesbian tag, explain them well, because, for one side, you'll get tons of people asking if gay content is avoidable (and a few others with lesbian? again hard to imagine), and some others like me asking if the MC is gay/lesbian, or if it has a full gay/lesbian path.
 

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Tread carefully there man. I know you don't want to spoil it but believe me, surprise dick will make an outburst almost as bad as surprise NTR. If you're also going to get the gay tag because of this, added to the lesbian tag, explain them well, because, for one side, you'll get tons of people asking if gay content is avoidable (and a few others with lesbian? again hard to imagine), and some others like me asking if the MC is gay/lesbian, or if it has a full gay/lesbian path.
Believe me, I know. Originally I planned on it being a surprise near the beginning after an optional scene with him, as I thought it would make for an interesting discovery for the player if they decided to opt into that scene without fully knowing what they were getting into. Ultimately, I decided against it as I don't think most people would appreciate that kind of thing (like being tricked into watching a horror flick when you thought it was going to be a lighthearted comedy. I personally think that would make for a great horror experience, but I'm certain most would be opposed or scarred by such a thing). I've tinkered and refined the story many times since then and now he will be revealed way before any kind of scene with him would happen. His reveal is unimportant and more of just a setup, so this change didn't affect the greater story in any meaningful way.

This is another reason as to why I made this thread. Ideas that sound good in my head could end up being terrible implementations and experiences for others. I want to provide something interesting and semi-unique, but I don't want smaller things that could easily be changed to hinder or ruin the experience for others. I believe the best course of action for me would be to include some kind of "genre/tag breakdown" explaining what exactly you could expect to see in the developer notes section.
 
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