VN Ren'Py ToxiCity [v0.11.0] [ILSProductions]

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Her right hand. And it's her left hand on his left thigh. You can see a little bit of his shorts. From upper left to upper right: her right hand, her right leg, her left leg, her left hand.
I think the question is, what is the little object sticking out from under her right hand. It looks like it is supposed to be a finger or thumb, but the angle is all wrong. If it's her thumb it's twisted upside down somehow, and if it's his finger or thumb, it's twisted at an even more painful looking angle.

IDK, maybe he was holding a cocktail weenie?
 
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That scratching on the glass (at the end of 0.10.0) get under the skin of anyone else?
All right, we are on the move again. 0.11.0 is in development, and we're looking at a long, hard road ahead of us, both thematically and workload-wise. As we look over the plot map, this one feels like it's got a lot packed into it. It does. While we won't directly tackle the conflict between John and Laura, it will be there in the background. And for those not aware, the end of 0.10.0 had a variety of ways it could've been resolved, depending on if you were sleeping with Laura, Kallie, both, or neither of them (though "neither" really is the boring version).
At this point in the game, there's an interesting level of pressure being applied, not only to the player but to the characters. You can see the impacts as everyone wears down. Of course, they all react in different ways, some lashing out, others struggling with depression. There are entire scenes where Kallie doesn't speak at all. And, of course, those moments where John's vision can't exactly be relied on.
Also, some users on the Discord have taken it upon themselves to theorize that a Witch is a future love interest, which has generated some interesting responses. I know we spent an entire game trying to save very broken people, but this one may be too far gone, guys.
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That scratching on the glass (at the end of 0.10.0) get under the skin of anyone else?
All right, we are on the move again. 0.11.0 is in development, and we're looking at a long, hard road ahead of us, both thematically and workload-wise. As we look over the plot map, this one feels like it's got a lot packed into it. It does. While we won't directly tackle the conflict between John and Laura, it will be there in the background. And for those not aware, the end of 0.10.0 had a variety of ways it could've been resolved, depending on if you were sleeping with Laura, Kallie, both, or neither of them (though "neither" really is the boring version).
At this point in the game, there's an interesting level of pressure being applied, not only to the player but to the characters. You can see the impacts as everyone wears down. Of course, they all react in different ways, some lashing out, others struggling with depression. There are entire scenes where Kallie doesn't speak at all. And, of course, those moments where John's vision can't exactly be relied on.
Also, some users on the Discord have taken it upon themselves to theorize that a Witch is a future love interest, which has generated some interesting responses. I know we spent an entire game trying to save very broken people, but this one may be too far gone, guys.
Thanks for your interest and patronage,
-Kinderfeld
Damn, no witch wife to make baby zombies burned ones with is tough :cry:
 

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I forget if it was mentioned on here or elsewhere but will this have a harem route? I know I'm basic, but the 3 heroines have grown on me and picking one over the others is starting to become difficult. the story so far is super good either way.
 

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I forget if it was mentioned on here or elsewhere but will this have a harem route? I know I'm basic, but the 3 heroines have grown on me and picking one over the others is starting to become difficult. the story so far is super good either way.
It's just my opinion but i think it will have an harem ending, because it would make sense, how would you be able to separate from the people you spent such an dangerous and emotional journey after it ends?
 

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I've had this on my radar for many months and finally played it and caught up. What a great story and characters. I especially applaud how ILS breaks down characters' thoughts and shows how grating the entire circumstance is on everyone, including the MC.
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Anyway, I'm looking forward to see what the answers to all of the above end up being.
 

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how would you be able to separate from the people you spent such an dangerous and emotional journey after it ends?
You wouldn't, of course, as has been mentioned several times in several ways already--as long as you all survive this, you're all going to be connected for the rest of your lives. But as a harem? A long-term, stable, romantic/sexual relationship where MC's with all three (or perhaps more) of them? That surely isn't an outcome you'd expect IRL. And if it's the case that the fog (whatever it is, and whatever's causing it) is some kind of localized phenomenon (as the occasional snippets of TV we see suggest), MC and the others will be coming back to the "real world," where such a relationship wouldn't be readily accepted.

With all of that said, I lean toward expecting a harem ending.
the implication that a large percentage of men are so toxic, nor that it's a male-specific problem.
What do you see as implying that? We see one relationship where that is the case (and even if I thought Laura had a bit of a hair trigger early on in suspecting it, later dialogue pretty strongly supports it). Just recently, we see Laura questioning whether MC's doing this--also reasonable, IMO, in light of Kallie's situation. But I don't recall dialogue suggesting that all (or most) men are this way, nor that it's only men who behave this way.
I understood that prolonged and/or concentrated exposure to the fog created the creatures by converting humans.
I think even early on, MC accepted this as the leading theory, but was unwilling to commit to it. But it raises at least as many questions as it answers. Like, e.g.: Laura was out in the fog, unprotected, for a good while. She suffered skin irritation (which has since resolved) and some persistent respiratory problems, but nothing else (unless, perhaps, you want to suggest that it affected her mind, leading her to leave the dorm?). Or the office--yes, room full of fog, only the Burned One in there, with clothes and wallet. Sounds like a pretty strong case indeed. But what about the broken window? "Office occupant broke the window to escape, room filled with fog, turned him." OK, but why break the window? He had a perfectly safe way out of the building without breaking the window.

And even now: we've seen one "turning," and that was where the BO turned the kid. MC surmises (reasonably, I think) that's what the BO was trying to do to Kallie; I don't think he's yet made the connection that the BO outside the Burger Joint was trying to do that to him. All cases directly involving an existing BO. Does simple exposure do it (and they're just somehow able to concentrate and direct the stuff)? Or are they doing something specific to make this happen (and if that's the case, where did the first BOs come from)?
the Witch is a mystery to me
Likewise. I didn't, and still don't, have any real theories on her, but I'd been open to the possibility that she was good, or at worst neutral--but the last dev update seems to contradict that.
 
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Likewise. I didn't, and still don't, have any real theories on her, but I'd been open to the possibility that she was good, or at worst neutral--but the last dev update seems to contradict that.
Not saying it was impossible, but the chance for that was really low, nor did anything we've seen so far hint that she would be friendly in any way.
 
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nor did anything we've seen so far hint that she would be friendly in any way.
What we've seen really doesn't indicate very strongly either way. She wants to get in, and she's asking for help. The first could easily be for nefarious purposes (and certainly we're going to assume that anything outside is hostile until proven otherwise), but it could also be for good (I want to help you) or neutral (I need help) purposes. The latter could likewise be sincere, or it could be a ruse. If the latter, she's operating on a much higher mental level than the garden-variety BOs.

And for that matter, I guess it's possible she's "too far gone" in terms of physical damage/injury to be a LI, but could still be friendly.

Now, if I had to bet one way or the other, it'd be that she's a threat. But I've seen enough twists and surprises that I won't be shocked if she turns out to be good.
 

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Yet she's the only one we've heard still able to speak. Apparently doors are still beyond her though. :)
Yeah, lots of questions there.

But thinking about it a bit more... Yes, everything outside is presumptively a threat. And, of course, that's what Shelly was thinking when MC et al. arrived at the dorm--that might move the needle in his mind. He feels guilty about the kid who was turned--that probably will move the needle in his mind. Will those factors together be enough for MC to let her in (or go out to her, or something), even though he suspects she's a threat?
 
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Will those factors together be enough for MC to let her in (or go out to her, or something), even though he suspects she's a threat?
I sincerely hope not...as it will just compound what I and others keep reitering about stupid people doing stupid things. Seriously, no one in their right fucking mind would go out to her or let her in....so I suppose that's a guarantee we will lol.
 

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Yeah, lots of questions there.

But thinking about it a bit more... Yes, everything outside is presumptively a threat. And, of course, that's what Shelly was thinking when MC et al. arrived at the dorm--that might move the needle in his mind. He feels guilty about the kid who was turned--that probably will move the needle in his mind. Will those factors together be enough for MC to let her in (or go out to her, or something), even though he suspects she's a threat?
He seems to know not to trust the witch. First, he was already alerted by the writing inside the classroom and from our interactions with the witch so far she doesn't seem like those of someone who has been outside and genuinely needs help. It would mean she has survived outside in the fog for days without turning or being attacked, that should already raise some red flags.

The only way it would make sense for us to let her in is if she can mess with people's minds, like the guy who attacked us previously. That is, of course, assuming the witch really influenced him and he wasn't just crazy from isolation.
 

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What do you see as implying that? We see one relationship where that is the case (and even if I thought Laura had a bit of a hair trigger early on in suspecting it, later dialogue pretty strongly supports it). Just recently, we see Laura questioning whether MC's doing this--also reasonable, IMO, in light of Kallie's situation. But I don't recall dialogue suggesting that all (or most) men are this way, nor that it's only men who behave this way.
It took me many hours to get through existing content. I'm not going to go back through to find specific examples. My view might also be colored by the fact that the MC travels only with women, so the toxic relationships all just happen to be male: Andrew, Keith, and the guys that Bree and Macy left with (where Shelley says she got a strong feeling they were going to end up forcing themselves on her and the other girls). But a huge amount of this comes in passing phrases or characters' thoughts, especially from the MC ironically. I can only speak to what it felt like as I was playing, and I don't normally get this kind of feeling when running through other VNs. Apparently you didn't get that impression.
I think even early on, MC accepted this as the leading theory, but was unwilling to commit to it. But it raises at least as many questions as it answers. Like, e.g.: Laura was out in the fog, unprotected, for a good while. She suffered skin irritation (which has since resolved) and some persistent respiratory problems, but nothing else (unless, perhaps, you want to suggest that it affected her mind, leading her to leave the dorm?). Or the office--yes, room full of fog, only the Burned One in there, with clothes and wallet. Sounds like a pretty strong case indeed. But what about the broken window? "Office occupant broke the window to escape, room filled with fog, turned him." OK, but why break the window? He had a perfectly safe way out of the building without breaking the window.

And even now: we've seen one "turning," and that was where the BO turned the kid. MC surmises (reasonably, I think) that's what the BO was trying to do to Kallie; I don't think he's yet made the connection that the BO outside the Burger Joint was trying to do that to him. All cases directly involving an existing BO. Does simple exposure do it (and they're just somehow able to concentrate and direct the stuff)? Or are they doing something specific to make this happen (and if that's the case, where did the first BOs come from)?
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outside in the fog for days without turning or being attacked, that should already raise some red flags.
Agreed, big ones, with flashing warning lights as well. But none of the four of them is entirely "in their right fucking mind" at this point, and I suspect the factors I mentioned will at least push MC to want to talk with her. Will they be enough? I guess we'll see. I don't think it'd be a good idea on his part (at least, not without a lot of additional information), but I don't think I'd be greatly surprised if he'd try it.
 
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