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RPGM [Translation Request] The Mask of Blue and Silver/蒼銀の仮面 [Nuko Majin]

anony2017

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It is deeply sad that yet another potential masterpiece hastily concluded after prolonged delays, and worse still, resorting to the use of AI.
 
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how do you play the game and what exactly do you need to do? can someone please explain? thanks
During the day, you'll get tasks you need to complete for the tavern of the guy that lent you the boat. Use a translation since you'd need to read what tasks you ought to do unless you want to roam around and interact with everything. After that, the mc proceeds to the dungeon where you need to navigate through it, collecting relics, avoiding traps, etc, all the while protecting Victoria from the ugly bastard by calling her in the right time or let it happen if you want to corrupt her. After dungeon is night phase where you can talk to Victoria and tell her to be careful to increase her vigilance against corruption. or just sleep to end the day.
AFAIK this is the only things that are implemented.
 
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Wow looking at dev ci-en page, he's getting a lot of hateful comments (especially from Chinese people) accusing the dev milking the game. Is that justifiable? Are there any moral saints here who can weigh in? Kinda feel bad for the dev lol
Of course it isn't, but we're humans xD, people will always find something bad to say.. And for the "weigh in" idea, u might need to to this for 100% of games, so just let humans be humans. Give a good review when u like something. Don't even fight against things which aren't "justifiable", it will never end .. (my comment is restricted to games)
 
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Wow looking at dev ci-en page, he's getting a lot of hateful comments (especially from Chinese people) accusing the dev milking the game. Is that justifiable? Are there any moral saints here who can weigh in? Kinda feel bad for the dev lol
For what it's worth, the dev isn't really a "milking" dev like a lot of people want it to be the case. So, no, I don't think it is justifiable at all. You don't need to be a moral saint to see that. It's just that this dev is very slow on making things.

I'd argue that a telltale sign of an actual milker is frequent updates that contain absolutely nothing.
 

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Wow looking at dev ci-en page, he's getting a lot of hateful comments (especially from Chinese people) accusing the dev milking the game. Is that justifiable? Are there any moral saints here who can weigh in? Kinda feel bad for the dev lol
the game has been in dev for over 3 years and only has 20min of content
its really surprising that they are only starting to react now
 

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the game has been in dev for over 3 years and only has 20min of content
its really surprising that they are only starting to react now
Theyre not starting to react now, hes been getting harrased in ci-en and x for months, this is nothing new, this is what happens when you cook good stuff, get everyone hungry and take too long to feed them, people will start asking "wheres the food?"
 

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Theyre not starting to react now, hes been getting harrased in ci-en and x for months, this is nothing new, this is what happens when you cook good stuff, get everyone hungry and take too long to feed them, people will start asking "wheres the food?"
I think the issue is he's cooking good stuff, charging monthly for it and barely serves anything.

If the trials and exclusive CG's weren't locked behind a pay wall people would be less mad. Also he's now using AI to accelerate some of the tasks by the way which isn't that big of a deal for me but sure does show us his lazy side.
 

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To be fair, in terms of content there might be a lot more developed, but since this is a trial version the dev wont put it in the game. However we just can't know unless he tells us, we have seen sex scenes in the images tab so for all we know that event is already implemented in the development version and just not presented for the trial version
 
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Wow looking at dev ci-en page, he's getting a lot of hateful comments (especially from Chinese people) accusing the dev milking the game. Is that justifiable? Are there any moral saints here who can weigh in? Kinda feel bad for the dev lol
Eastern culture is harsh af when it comes to asking for money during development, way harsher than western even. A lot of jp devs don‘t take money during development and only for the sale so it‘s pretty shitty if you take money through ci‘en and don‘t release jack shit.
 
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Eastern culture is harsh af when it comes to asking for money during development, way harsher than western even. A lot of jp devs don‘t take money during development and only for the sale so it‘s pretty shitty if you take money through ci‘en and don‘t release jack shit.
Not exactly true though. You don't see much rude Japanese comments and a lot of Japanese comments were still looking forward to it or being positive about it. "Eastern" culture isn't exactly correct here. You can see this trend with a lot of Chinese players if you look at all the review bomb drama on Steam.

Not to mention, a lot of JP ci-en devs take money during development. I don't know where you got that idea from.
 
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Not exactly true though. You don't see much rude Japanese comments and a lot of Japanese comments were still looking forward to it or being positive about it. "Eastern" culture isn't exactly correct here. You can see this trend with a lot of Chinese players if you look at all the review bomb drama on Steam.

Not to mention, a lot of JP ci-en devs take money during development. I don't know where you got that idea from.
makes me think it's effective, because right now Chinese devs are among the best...maybe not for hentai, but you know
 
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I don't think there's any correlation to this behavior and development. there are actually multiple factors, which usually come one with another.
depends if we are talking about the same thing.
you have: 1) making money and sponsors and politics your no.1 priority and working on your game with what time and energy you have left.
and 2) Having passion for your work / actually have solid idea what you want to create and work hard to get it done. and fans and money are side product of success

The connection was seen sooo many times in so many different genres. Like the whole fanbase from one of those popular games ( i think it was midnight paradise, could be a different title) were dissapointed in lack of real progress when author moved his project to steam or something, and progress was not so good.

George r r martin was only ever productive before he was famous. then he spent all his time marketing, and didn't release another relevant book since 2011.

Bethesda was only productive when they worked without asking for money. since they got famous in 2011 they switched politics and re released skyrim in 100 different ways(which mind you modders do anyway for free) and another example of "didn't do anything relevant since 2011" but they market every single small step which may or may not mean anything.

One punch man came out of no where. was success. Since then it was heavily marketed, but to fanbase it's shit: Literaly one man fan puts out projects better than what the actual studio does.

The whole western gaming industry was crippled because politics entered the discussion and it was more important to pass an individual's personal ideology or personal life-style into it, and directors had to listen to directive instead on actual gameplay.

Vtmb bloodline is apparently better from 2004 than from 2025. Like lead designer was fired for caring too much.

what I described is not just about hatefull comments. All described behaviours and actions are like flags that lets you know there is high probability of either failure or delay without purpose.

here's a list of them: 1) marketing politics /one person's views / a diversity quantity as a requisite.
2) making promises and releasing the exact same thing over and over.
3) All this time intensively market and ask for money
4) fire ppl who care about the source material.

reason: developer actively spends time and energy on all said things. I've seen many times ppl saying Nuko is good but lazy. Now imagine how much less he does if he spends time and effort on things that don't actually add to game content.
Saying what the whole community thinks and talks isn't correlated: then why talk at all? Of course that is one of the things that adds to result. It's not necessarily major thing, but it definitely can have weight. If for community it is only acceptable to put out quality results than it this will be an option with less resistance for developer. If politics and card companies hold more importance that they will decide the path of less resistence. There is only so much time and effort developer has.


I consider fanbase for which "release of quality content" = "give me some money" ="ok" a healthy one
"I give promises" or "We chose the best ratio for diversity, because that particular race is the best actor for the role" or "here skyrim 3.3, which added exactly 1 dog fart to the game, give me money"or "I wonder by how many months the author will delay his work this time" or"I posted a hard written article which lets you know I am alive but not mach else" or "lets censor what the developer wants to draw and a buyer wants to pay for" And a fanbase for which any of these are acceptable i consider delusional.

I would give kuru (or kul) sisters as an example of asking for money while working done right, because when they add trial or content it actually means something.