Others Trials in Tainted Space [v0.9.142] [Fenoxo]

Jtecx · Sep 18, 2022

What else is broken in the current version? Inv is the only one that I'm aware of rn....

cooldude5368 · Sep 18, 2022

Hargan2 said:
No, she's in the game. You may be thrown off by the fact that they put an NPC icon on her room instead of a stair icon, as when you go into that room you have to hit that button in the bottom left corner to go up to where she actually is.

looks like she is in fact there. for some reason the stair icon changes to something else as well. not sure how i didn't notice that, but i guess it's not like they made it particularly obvious

JaegerNimrod · Sep 18, 2022

Jtecx said:
What else is broken in the current version? Inv is the only one that I'm aware of rn....

Some missing scenes, weird fuckery with shops, piercings, combat crashes, etc. The bug reporting forum on the main website is getting pretty consistent additions since 0.9.016. No developer response for most of them yet. The usual bug-fixer hasn't logged into the forum in ~2 weeks.

Hargan2 · Sep 18, 2022

cooldude5368 said:
looks like she is in fact there. for some reason the stair icon changes to something else as well. not sure how i didn't notice that, but i guess it's not like they made it particularly obvious

Honestly I completely missed it as well the first time around, I had to look it up on the forums.

jamonserrano · Sep 18, 2022

Jtecx said:
What else is broken in the current version? Inv is the only one that I'm aware of rn....

the sellers

Jtecx · Sep 18, 2022

JaegerNimrod said:
Some missing scenes, weird fuckery with shops, piercings, combat crashes, etc. The bug reporting forum on the main website is getting pretty consistent additions since 0.9.016. No developer response for most of them yet. The usual bug-fixer hasn't logged into the forum in ~2 weeks.

"Usual bug fixer" I thought the fenco team was dealing with they fixes in general, did they just let one guy handle it?
Also, I presume they're not making the same "mistake" and releasing source code this time for the port, let alone the original flash.

jfmherokiller · Sep 18, 2022

Jtecx said:
"Usual bug fixer" I thought the fenco team was dealing with they fixes in general, did they just let one guy handle it?
Also, I presume they're not making the same "mistake" and releasing source code this time for the port, let alone the original flash.

what mistake is that?

Walk Cycle · Sep 18, 2022

jfmherokiller said:
what mistake is that?

Releasing the source code for the community to mod the shit out of the game I reckon.

Hargan2 · Sep 18, 2022

Jtecx said:
Also, I presume they're not making the same "mistake" and releasing source code this time for the port, let alone the original flash.

Why would releasing the source code be a mistake? Other than people discovering just how shit the code is.

TheInternetIsForThis · Sep 18, 2022

Hargan2 said:
Why would releasing the source code be a mistake? Other than people discovering just how shit the code is.

The devs have come to dislike modding and don't want it to be any easier for people to mod the games.

Hargan2 · Sep 18, 2022

TheInternetIsForThis said:
The devs have come to dislike modding and don't want it to be any easier for people to mod the games.

Oh, I know, but I thought there might be more to it than that. Fen and Co being butthurt over mods is always hilarious.

Jtecx · Sep 18, 2022

Yeah, they feel like releasing the source code for others to help them (at the time, that was the thinking from what I've gathered) clean up some content led to significant parts of the source being altered to the point where apparently fenoxo couldn't figure out how it worked anymore.

If anything, I found working with the current Xianxia codebase to be rather nice, albeit still a bit messy but the IDE helps with it a bit.

Hargan2 · Sep 18, 2022

Jtecx said:
Yeah, they feel like releasing the source code for others to help them (at the time, that was the thinking from what I've gathered) clean up some content led to significant parts of the source being altered to the point where apparently fenoxo couldn't figure out how it worked anymore.

I'm an ignorant savage so please excuse my confusion, but that doesn't make sense to me. Doesn't Fen or whoever's hosting the master repository ultimately have control over what does and does not get merged with the source code? How can he/the team fail to understand how the code works when they have to approve what does and does not get changed? Was he merging changes to the master without actually knowing what they did?

Jtecx · Sep 18, 2022

Hargan2 said:
I'm an ignorant savage so please excuse my confusion, but that doesn't make sense to me. Doesn't Fen or whoever's hosting the master repository ultimately have control over what does and does not get merged with the source code? How can he/the team fail to understand how the code works when they have to approve what does and does not get changed? Was he merging changes to the master without actually knowing what they did?

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I wasn't here when that happened. So honestly, I have no idea what the actual chain of events were.
Yes, Fenco should have final say as to what gets pulled into the repo. But possibly, they just blindly pulled without really checking how it worked. Or perhaps, someone else did understand it but Fenoxo himself didn't. AFAIK, their "team" was also comprised of a mixed group of varying levels of coders.

Hargan2 · Sep 18, 2022

Jtecx said:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wasn't here when that happened. So honestly, I have no idea what the actual chain of events were.
Yes, Fenco should have final say as to what gets pulled into the repo. But possibly, they just blindly pulled without really checking how it worked. Or perhaps, someone else did understand it but Fenoxo himself didn't. AFAIK, their "team" was also comprised of a mixed group of varying levels of coders.

Fair enough. We'll probably never know what exactly happened with that then, but thanks for the reply.

JaegerNimrod · Sep 19, 2022

Jtecx said:
"Usual bug fixer" I thought the fenco team was dealing with they fixes in general, did they just let one guy handle it?
Also, I presume they're not making the same "mistake" and releasing source code this time for the port, let alone the original flash.

If you go and look at the bug reports forum most of the fixed bugs are by Gedan. A few others also work at it but Gedan seems to be the busiest and most prominent programmer in general (at least recently).

jfmherokiller · Sep 19, 2022

i think i thew my hat in the coc ring in the past. If I remember correctly I removed needing the adobe suite to edit the gui because i i used some 3rd party library to reimpliment it.

Jtecx · Sep 19, 2022

jfmherokiller said:
i think i thew my hat in the coc ring in the past. If I remember correctly I removed needing the adobe suite to edit the gui because i i used some 3rd party library to reimpliment it.

...OH WAIT NOW I REMEMBER WHY I'VE HEARD YOUR NAME, YOU WORKED ON ADDING THE ANT AND TRAVIS CI THING

And the screen-reader support thing too.

jfmherokiller · Sep 19, 2022

Jtecx said:
...OH WAIT NOW I REMEMBER WHY I'VE HEARD YOUR NAME, YOU WORKED ON ADDING THE ANT AND TRAVIS CI THING

And the screen-reader support thing too.

yep and now im trying to basicly rebuild my life from scratch because of well family death and im now a mildly functioning autistic.

NorthStarSteve · Sep 19, 2022

How do I use the image pack with the new version of TiTS?

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