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I'll be making different choices as much as possible. There are already choices, for example, with the bus driver. The points you collect aren't just for show. The more you earn, the more powerful the scenes will be later. If you choose not to earn points, then this plot won't exist or the scene will unfold differently.

Right now, I'm making choices when Valerie is at training. There will also be choices that will later influence scenes between these characters.

If MFC were to lose her virginity to MMC, I'd have to completely change the game. I'm sorry, but that won't be possible.
And remember, even if the main characters don't do something, I can always introduce a plot point involving their friends. So, really, I have unlimited possibilities. Time is the biggest obstacle.
 
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I'll be making different choices as much as possible. There are already choices, for example, with the bus driver. The points you collect aren't just for show. The more you earn, the more powerful the scenes will be later. If you choose not to earn points, then this plot won't exist or the scene will unfold differently.

Right now, I'm making choices when Valerie is at training. There will also be choices that will later influence scenes between these characters.

If MFC were to lose her virginity to MMC, I'd have to completely change the game. I'm sorry, but that won't be possible.
And remember, even if the main characters don't do something, I can always introduce a plot point involving their friends. So, really, I have unlimited possibilities. Time is the biggest obstacle.
Alright, sounds good. Understandable on virginity thing. Although sucks a little that it seems some boyfriends/girlfriends and some sex stuff will be less of a choice for for both mc's pre relationship for them and kind of forced situations, cause usually like choices to avoid stuff or people, but completely understandable, even though it may be a bit of letdown in that aspect.

And yeah, there could be an interesting dynamic later in the friend group, like maybe there is a virgin in FMC friend group, and while in a relationship, FMC offers the MMC to take her virginity and she can be there, maybe give tips or guide her. That Could be an interesting dynamic later, that just came to mind when you mentioned frends.

But we are still far out from some of thsi stuff like you said, so lets just focus on the here and now, for now, lol. And worry about some of this possible stuff later once we get to some of that stuff.
 
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Thanks for your reply and no folks I am not trying to tell the dev how he should create his game. Just going by the title alone though... that kind of stuff really is the opposite of True Love. Trust me when I say things like that because I have been married over 30 years and other than a threesome with my wife BFF there has never been anyone else in our bed and she has always been satisfied and never needed anyone else.
There was one incident when my wife got black out drunk and my own fucking brother whos name was the same as mine thought he was being smart cause i went up to bed. he tried taking advantage of my wife and when i noticed she had not come upstairs yet I went to find her and came around the corner to him making out with he and he saying my name not knowing it wasnt me.... That night I lost a brother and he left my house on his hands and knees leaving a trail of blood, teeth and broken nose.... Whats mine if mine and I dont share.
I dont mind ffm content or the occasional lesbian content as long as the MMC is involved in some way. That kind of content is great and like the "other" kind should be optional and able to be stopped as well. Mind you due to my health I had to stop on my own games but I still work with and advise other devs and we have all seen great games get destroyed part way in when out of no where ntr/s gets thrown in. As i said i'm not telling him how to create his story but bring up the pitfalls of throwing that stuff into a story and having it take the game down and the forum explode in hateful posts.
 
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Bro it was "White Desert Online":LOL: . Yes it's my account and screen are 100% from my gameplay.
Obviously, this is the first location next to Velia and has the weakest mobs, but I wanted to show that the main character plays and he is good at games.
And how long have you been playing this game? And how many years or months have you been playing this? I haven't played this game for about 4 years now.
 

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Okay, I understand what you wrote.

But you know, I have a feeling you're misunderstanding my assumptions about the game and are looking way too far into the future.

You don't have to worry about the tag I added just in case. I'm making a game for the community with my own ideas, but there will be polls for important issues like that. But by the time we get to the point in the game where, for example, I'll ask about the NTR, the game will be huge with a lot of content.

So my advice to everyone is: let's not focus on one tag that doesn't really matter, because by the time I get to that point, it'll be a good five years, if not more.
 

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And how long have you been playing this game? And how many years or months have you been playing this? I haven't played this game for about 4 years now.
I have 956 hours, -100h for afk fishing. Last time i played few mounths.

I play, then I have a long break and then again, and now I'm creating my own game, so I don't have time
 

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So my advice to everyone is: let's not focus on one tag that doesn't really matter, because by the time I get to that point, it'll be a good five years, if not more.
That's the whole problem though, that tag matter's a lot to anyone not into it, who wants to play(maybe also pay) and be invested in a AVN for 5 years and then suddenly NTR rear's its ugly head? Guess the only answer is too not bother. Leaving such choices down to customer's sounds good on paper but expect a shit show when you alienate a chunk of your audience because of leaving such decisions to the crowd 5 years later.
 

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In summary
The concept of an NTR couple will only occur in the distant future, where it may be optional. But the player will play with both characters, and they will have/be with other people before getting together. In this case, the main character, Liz (female protagonist), will have dated and been with other boys and girls while the player plays with her, and the boy (male protagonist) will have tried/been with other girls until they meet and form a couple in the future, without being able to avoid this while playing with both characters.

If what I said is correct, it's good to make that clear, because some people claim that this is the same as NTR too. I say this to avoid complaints and repetitive questions about the content and what the player will encounter in the game when playing it.

If I have written something incorrectly, I apologize in advance as I am speaking via a translator.
 
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You understood exactly right.

Okay, I see I won't please everyone, so I'll describe how it will look to cut through unnecessary discussions.

1. The characters don't know each other right now and will be meeting different people, which will often lead to sexual interactions.
2. Once they meet, they will fall in love completely, and no force will be able to separate them. Because it's true love.
3. Since they've had a lot of experiences before, they will tell each other they don't want to give it up completely.
4. MMC will continue to look at girls. And MFC will look at boys. But it's just for fun. They won't have any problems with it because their true feelings are only for each other.
5. There will be many humorous aspects, and for me, the vision of true love is that no matter what happens, no matter what you do, love will remain and last, so the characters won't have any problems in developing other short-term relationships.

I hope this last post has cleared up any confusion and you can focus on the game and its continued development. I promise you, it will be a good creation.

The game will be developed, even if only for a single player who wants to experience the adventures within it. The game will always be available for free, and a Patreon is optional; I'm not forcing anyone to participate.
 

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That's the whole problem though, that tag matter's a lot to anyone not into it, who wants to play(maybe also pay) and be invested in a AVN for 5 years and then suddenly NTR rear's its ugly head? Guess the only answer is too not bother. Leaving such choices down to customer's sounds good on paper but expect a shit show when you alienate a chunk of your audience because of leaving such decisions to the crowd 5 years later.
Yes you have right, thank you for open my head. I made official statement one post up from this.
 

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Here is my version of this game.
Meeting
One fine evening, on the thirteenth, when the Blood Moon rose in the sky, the worlds of Alex and Juliana crossed. They were in the same place at the same time, as if by the will of a higher power.

Alex explored a mysterious forest full of mysteries and wonders. He had heard about it from the locals and dreamed of seeing it with his own eyes. It was dark in the forest, but the moon was shining so brightly that Alex could make out the path ahead. Suddenly, he noticed something shiny on the ground. Bending down, he saw a medallion with a beautiful pattern. Picking it up, Alex felt that at the same moment, someone sensed his presence.

Juliana was walking through the forest at that time, enjoying the cool night air and the stars. She heard a strange sound and saw a glint of metal. Looking up, she saw a locket that someone had dropped. She picked it up and noticed that it was the same locket that Alex had just found. Their eyes met, and at the same moment they realized that this was fate.

They felt that their lives were forever connected to each other. Alex and Juliana were amazed by this unexpected meeting. They approached each other and exchanged smiles. At that moment, they realized that their adventures were just beginning.

Adventures
Since then, their lives have changed forever. They traveled to different worlds, fought monsters and solved riddles. Their path was full of dangers, but they always found a way out of difficult situations.

One day, they found themselves in a world where time flowed differently. They had to find an ancient artifact to save this world from destruction. They went through many challenges, fought monsters and solved difficult puzzles. Finally, they found the artifact and returned it to its place. The world was saved and they returned home, but their friendship and bond became even stronger.

They also helped those who needed help. They met different people and creatures, and each time their kindness and courage helped them find a common language.

First love
Alex and Juliana spent a lot of time together, and their friendship gradually developed into something more. They began to notice that their hearts beat in unison when they were next to each other. They began to realize that their feelings were deep and sincere.

They walked through beautiful places, talked about life and dreamed of the future. Their love was strong and unwavering. They knew they would be together no matter what.

The first kiss
One evening, when they were sitting by the campfire and looking at the stars, Alex took Juliana by the hand. He looked into her eyes and told her that she was the most important thing in his life. Juliana smiled and said the same thing.

Their hearts were beating in unison, and at that moment, they realized that they were ready to take the next step. They kissed under the stars, and this kiss became a symbol of their love and devotion to each other.

Since then, Alex and Juliana have been inseparable. Their adventures became even more exciting, and they knew that nothing could separate them.
 
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Thanks for your reply and no folks I am not trying to tell the dev how he should create his game. Just going by the title alone though... that kind of stuff really is the opposite of True Love. Trust me when I say things like that because I have been married over 30 years and other than a threesome with my wife BFF there has never been anyone else in our bed and she has always been satisfied and never needed anyone else.
There was one incident when my wife got black out drunk and my own fucking brother whos name was the same as mine thought he was being smart cause i went up to bed. he tried taking advantage of my wife and when i noticed she had not come upstairs yet I went to find her and came around the corner to him making out with he and he saying my name not knowing it wasnt me.... That night I lost a brother and he left my house on his hands and knees leaving a trail of blood, teeth and broken nose.... Whats mine if mine and I dont share.
I dont mind ffm content or the occasional lesbian content as long as the MMC is involved in some way. That kind of content is great and like the "other" kind should be optional and able to be stopped as well. Mind you due to my health I had to stop on my own games but I still work with and advise other devs and we have all seen great games get destroyed part way in when out of no where ntr/s gets thrown in. As i said i'm not telling him how to create his story but bring up the pitfalls of throwing that stuff into a story and having it take the game down and the forum explode in hateful posts.

So you are explaining what works for you. How about let the dev make the game he wants, you only use NTR as I assume you are talking about the cheating type where the MC becomes jealous. It doesnt seem like that is what the MC had in mind. It could be sharing or swinging which isnt NTR.

Looking at your post it seems you are obsessed with NTR you even put it in your signature. A new dev posts his work and you come running to try and change his mind, It doesnt seem right.
 

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That's the whole problem though, that tag matter's a lot to anyone not into it, who wants to play(maybe also pay) and be invested in a AVN for 5 years and then suddenly NTR rear's its ugly head? Guess the only answer is too not bother. Leaving such choices down to customer's sounds good on paper but expect a shit show when you alienate a chunk of your audience because of leaving such decisions to the crowd 5 years later.
Exactly. I have no problem whether dev wants to add that content or not. But a 'maybe' in 5 years is asking for trouble.

People that want that content do not want to get invested (either emotionally or financially) for 5 years only to discover it doesn't happen. And vice versa those that don't want it, do not want to play for 5 years to get pissed off when it happens. It will be a shit-show at the point no matter what happens.

Personally, it makes sense for me to just forget about it and if I'm still around when it's completed (and we know it's contents), decide whether to give it a go or not.
 

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I'm now trying to figure out what drugs Frankbob is on because I'm saying the same thing most all of you are saying yet he seems to think I like ntr..... I can't stand it and like the rest here do not want to spend days, weeks, months or years invested in a game only to get slapped in the face by it. Try again Frankyboy cept this time lay off the sauce.
 
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