- Sep 24, 2017
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Like many people before me, who are interested in developing their own games, i find patreon guidelines to be very troublesome. At least in my case it's not so much about the restrictions themselves but how can be interpreted and be used to arbitrarily or not remove games in the platform without the author actually knowing they are violating some rule.
In my case this specific phrase or wording is what i'm strugling.
I think this makes it clear that consent must be given explicitly when sexual encounters occur, but for many games there might be scenarios that go beyond that the realm of "this is consent or not". The same can be said about "the ability to give consent" it's like something that can be debatable, and the fact that it clarifies "hypnosis" makes it more confusing, at least they could give us a few more examples, or something to take for reference.
In my case i'm looking into making a game with roleplay elements, on which the main heroine has the power to seduce her enemies, which includes giving them "erotic dreams" or visions. There is technically no sexual activity happening (though there is sexually graphic content) so this is at least something that's hard to classify. depending on the viewer this could be something completely tame, for others it can be "glorifying non consent" (which is also mentioned in the guidelines) . There is also the scenarios for when she might use her powers to make herself more alluring to others (unknowingly) so she can have sex with them, which also can be seen as a form of hypnosis, or influencing someone to do something that they wouldn't otherwise because external factors (and you can add drugs here too).
But influencing is something that can be viewed in a few ways, you can influence someone to impair their judgment, and to do something that for them otherwise it would be irrational or bad, etc. Or you can just simply influence someone by making them feel they are receiving something better. It would be like someone using makeup to make themselves look better, so they can attract a partner. In all cases there is a "switch" in conditions for consent, but there is no way to know which is acceptable or not, is using magic to make oneself more alluring "non- consent" ? or can it be viewed as the same thing as dressing better, going to the gym and make yourself more presentable... who knows.
I know all this might sound a bit obsesive on my part but whatever... It really would suck spending months of my time making something, just to be taken down by some technicality, and sadly i don't have too many viable alternatives to patreon to choose from, so i need to have things clear and precise. My project doesn't really depend on the things i mentioned before, but those are things that i do have planned to implement at some point, at least 90 per cent will be "unambiguously" consensual.
In my case this specific phrase or wording is what i'm strugling.
I think this makes it clear that consent must be given explicitly when sexual encounters occur, but for many games there might be scenarios that go beyond that the realm of "this is consent or not". The same can be said about "the ability to give consent" it's like something that can be debatable, and the fact that it clarifies "hypnosis" makes it more confusing, at least they could give us a few more examples, or something to take for reference.
In my case i'm looking into making a game with roleplay elements, on which the main heroine has the power to seduce her enemies, which includes giving them "erotic dreams" or visions. There is technically no sexual activity happening (though there is sexually graphic content) so this is at least something that's hard to classify. depending on the viewer this could be something completely tame, for others it can be "glorifying non consent" (which is also mentioned in the guidelines) . There is also the scenarios for when she might use her powers to make herself more alluring to others (unknowingly) so she can have sex with them, which also can be seen as a form of hypnosis, or influencing someone to do something that they wouldn't otherwise because external factors (and you can add drugs here too).
But influencing is something that can be viewed in a few ways, you can influence someone to impair their judgment, and to do something that for them otherwise it would be irrational or bad, etc. Or you can just simply influence someone by making them feel they are receiving something better. It would be like someone using makeup to make themselves look better, so they can attract a partner. In all cases there is a "switch" in conditions for consent, but there is no way to know which is acceptable or not, is using magic to make oneself more alluring "non- consent" ? or can it be viewed as the same thing as dressing better, going to the gym and make yourself more presentable... who knows.
I know all this might sound a bit obsesive on my part but whatever... It really would suck spending months of my time making something, just to be taken down by some technicality, and sadly i don't have too many viable alternatives to patreon to choose from, so i need to have things clear and precise. My project doesn't really depend on the things i mentioned before, but those are things that i do have planned to implement at some point, at least 90 per cent will be "unambiguously" consensual.
