UK and EU's "online sodomizing act" - what will happen to f95?
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Death Panda
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This is what is going to happen. F95 has a button for deleting accounts to comply with data ownership laws and they've already banned almost every email that does not require a phone number. There is a 0% chance F95 is going to draw a target on it's back to appease users and anyone telling you otherwise is either dreaming or is lying and will probably make fun of you for not seeing it coming.
ToeLintSwallower
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No problem, I'm mainly referring to both whats occurring right now in the UK with the Online Safety Act and the various platforms who have been impacted by the demands of payment processors. I describe steam deleting 400+ games, itchio delisting all nsfw games, and websites like rule34, reddit, wikipedia, and twitter blocked in the UK as being impactful in the internet landscape. Brother this frog has been boiling for quite some time. Look at gumroad, pixiv, dlsite, steam, and itchio. Though the online safety act and the influence payment processors have may be two separate issues, they are significant. Going into detail for each individual case will take some time but you might be familiar with them, you were involved in many discussions here quelling the "uneducated".
Emphasis on "on their way of implementing it." Thanks for skewing my words for a convenient argument, I really like that. My main point was that we are inching closer to that reality. Yes they are just testing it, and what do you think the preliminary steps are to implementing these laws are? Its not the whole EU just more than 30% of it that make up about half of English speaking countries in Europe. Is that number insignificant to you? In the US 16 states have already placed regulations on porn on top of that there is a bill proposed named the Kids Online Safety Act very similar to the Online Safety Act in the UK. The way things are and may be headed, its not a radical idea to think this bill might pass and the online safety act will spread to the rest of the EU.
Once again you are taking my statements in bad faith. I was speaking broadly here. It may not be possible to delete F95 but if you prevent users from entering the website the result will be the same. Its a roundabout way of censoring, the inability of deleting the website is irrelevant. You may be missing some context with this one.
You need me to elaborate on why sharing your ID, passport, selfie, or any private information with a porn website or any website for that matter is a risk??? Bruh.
Data breaches happen even to the largest and most secure companies. A perfect example occurred just recently to the Tea app.
Downplaying what's happening is not educating. Disregarding valid concern isn't educating. Going to bat for corporations isn't educating. Things have now culminated to a point that cannot be ignored. Right now is a VERY crucial time and the kind of input you provide is not only worthless but destructive to actually making positive change.
So as of now this won't effect f95zone other then probably being blocked by uk isp's. And that uk/Eu users will now have to choose between paying for a vpn or giving up their privacy to access porn(Depending on if they are able to block access to all adults sites with isp help, some might slip through the cracks for awhile) Also they could choose to not watch porn but obviously that's not a "real" choice their giving you lol
My worry comes from what's next, they are obviously not clueless to the rise in vpn interest in the EU/UK and I wonder if they would consider banning access to vpns that don't follow their laws whether it's blocking access to certain sites or data retention.
Im also worried about expansion to the law that could happen such as making it illegal to bypass verfication at all.
according the Ofcom it doesn't seem to want to go after vpns.
"Ofcom is also reminding parents that if their children use a VPN to bypass age checks, they "would not be able to benefit from the protections of the Online Safety Act," the BBC reported. "
I would like to say it is pretty funny to me that they expect parents to stay informed on their kids use of vpns and make sure they arn't using/misusing one. But think it's too hard for parents to use already commonly avaible parent controls to stop their kids from accessing adult material XD
also to clarify why I have those worries (they arn't just me being parnoid or trying to rile people up)
from reuters - "Junior minister Stephen Parkinson appeared to concede ground to the tech companies' arguments on Wednesday, saying in parliament's upper chamber that the Ofcom communications regulator would only require them to scan content where "technically feasible".
Tech companies have said scanning messages and end-to-end encryption are fundamentally incompatible.
Donelan, however, denied on Thursday that the bill had been watered down in the final stages before it becomes law.
"We haven't changed the bill at all," she told Times Radio.
"If there was a situation where the mitigations that the social media providers are taking are not enough, and if after further work with the regulator they still can't demonstrate that they can meet the requirements within the bill, then the conversation about technology around encryption takes place," she said"
and from the eff -
A clause of the bill allows Ofcom, the British telecom regulator, to serve a notice requiring tech companies to scan their users–all of them–for child abuse content. This would affect even messages and files that are end-to-end encrypted to protect user privacy. As enacted, the OSB allows the government to force companies to build technology that can scan regardless of encryption–in other words, build a backdoor.
These types of client-side scanning system amount to "Bugs in our Pocket" and a group of leading computer security experts has reached the same conclusion as EFF–they undermine privacy and security for everyone.
From both the clause being in bill and donelan's statement encryption may be something they come after next.
My worry comes from what's next, they are obviously not clueless to the rise in vpn interest in the EU/UK and I wonder if they would consider banning access to vpns that don't follow their laws whether it's blocking access to certain sites or data retention.
Im also worried about expansion to the law that could happen such as making it illegal to bypass verfication at all.
according the Ofcom it doesn't seem to want to go after vpns.
"Ofcom is also reminding parents that if their children use a VPN to bypass age checks, they "would not be able to benefit from the protections of the Online Safety Act," the BBC reported. "
I would like to say it is pretty funny to me that they expect parents to stay informed on their kids use of vpns and make sure they arn't using/misusing one. But think it's too hard for parents to use already commonly avaible parent controls to stop their kids from accessing adult material XD
also to clarify why I have those worries (they arn't just me being parnoid or trying to rile people up)
from reuters - "Junior minister Stephen Parkinson appeared to concede ground to the tech companies' arguments on Wednesday, saying in parliament's upper chamber that the Ofcom communications regulator would only require them to scan content where "technically feasible".
Tech companies have said scanning messages and end-to-end encryption are fundamentally incompatible.
Donelan, however, denied on Thursday that the bill had been watered down in the final stages before it becomes law.
"We haven't changed the bill at all," she told Times Radio.
"If there was a situation where the mitigations that the social media providers are taking are not enough, and if after further work with the regulator they still can't demonstrate that they can meet the requirements within the bill, then the conversation about technology around encryption takes place," she said"
and from the eff -
A clause of the bill allows Ofcom, the British telecom regulator, to serve a notice requiring tech companies to scan their users–all of them–for child abuse content. This would affect even messages and files that are end-to-end encrypted to protect user privacy. As enacted, the OSB allows the government to force companies to build technology that can scan regardless of encryption–in other words, build a backdoor.
These types of client-side scanning system amount to "Bugs in our Pocket" and a group of leading computer security experts has reached the same conclusion as EFF–they undermine privacy and security for everyone.
From both the clause being in bill and donelan's statement encryption may be something they come after next.
suprisedcrankyface
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Secretly one of them! You were praying for an era of straight missionary games!
Depends, some countries subsidize parental software to disable apps etc. This might be a way of saying 'disable your VPN as well'.
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You see this is the problem, you come in using current events as examples of a pattern. What about the electronic commerce directive 2000? What about the digital service act in 2022? You mention " rule34, reddit, wikipedia, twitter, gumroad, pixiv, dlsite, steam, and itchio." what about tiktok, instagram, facebook and many others being investigated right now by EU regulators? You don't mention that the EU test is also to take other things into account like cyberbullying, addictive design, unwanted contact with strangers etc.
You placed no emphasis on that but you did include "whole of". I also addressed the "whole of" part which no matter where you place emphasis is still inaccurate and can have the effect of making things look worse and more wide ranging than they are.
What are they? because how many countries in the west ran tests country wide?
People are talking about the UK's online safety act, what meaning it could have for the EU even though they are not a part of the EU any more, yet Germany, which IS a part of the EU has had strict laws and requiring age verification for awhile now.
France, Spain, Italy, Denmark and Greece are the ones taking part in testing the age verification app. You know they have been given permission to customize it or keep it separate or integrate into a national app?
It's also not a radical idea to think it might focus on different things, that it might not be rolled out as one package but customized per country per specific needs.
As for the US
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I'm not taking your statement in bad faith, I'm pointing out that some will be blocked BUT some WILL choose to use the age verification system, some WILL find ways to by-pass it. Your statements are painting the bleakest picture possible without any indication that you considered the other options. Not everyone is going to
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.I got the context, "if something can't be used it might as well not exist" but in this case it will still be used by those who use the new system, those who by pass it and those who are not affected by these laws (YET)
For ID and passport sure, selfies are being shared by the thousands on social media, facial recognition / age identification does not always require storing information, credit card information IF people here are to be believed and they WANT to support and buy porn games and save dev's, is needed anyways so using it as identification doesn't seem to be an issue.
These are the methods listed on ofcom's site
- Facial age estimation – you show your face via photo or video, and technology analyses it to estimate your age.
- Open banking – you give permission for the age-check service to securely access information from your bank about whether you are over 18. The age-check service then confirms this with the site or app.
- Digital identity services – these include digital identity wallets, which can securely store and share information which proves your age in a digital format.
- Credit card age checks – you provide your credit card details and a payment processor checks if the card is valid. As you must be over 18 to obtain a credit card this shows you are over 18.
- Email-based age estimation – you provide your email address, and technology analyses other online services where it has been used – such as banking or utility providers - to estimate your age.
- Mobile network operator age checks – you give your permission for an age-check service to confirm whether or not your mobile phone number has age filters applied to it. If there are no restrictions, this confirms you are over 18.
- Photo-ID matching – this is similar to a check when you show a document. For example, you upload an image of a document that shows your face and age, and an image of yourself at the same time – these are compared to confirm if the document is yours.
Just for reference, the tea app is not a good example because security didn't even come into play there. But there are methods that don't require personal information, there are methods used already i.e. banking info on steam etc. (and before steam wallet is brought up not everyone buys from steam using that)
The point of sharing this is NOT to defend them, it's to stop people saying "we have to share private info" and when proved wrong they weaken chance of fighting this because it looks like they either don't know what is actually happening or they are deliberately lying to further there cause. Now when it's pointed out that people don't need to ONLY share private information our side can have an argument for that too.
It's NOT downplaying, disregarding or going to bat, it's giving accurate, factual information so that people defending our side don't get caught with the pants down (no pun intended) and have all the facts to make a factual and convincing argument to defend our side.
Exaggerations, blanket statements, vague implications just hurt our chances AND can be used against our side. If our side hopes to be taken seriously then we have to have the facts and counters to them.
am i wrong here hoping someone knows how to bypass twitter age block on +18 stuff? all solutions on reddit means they're already outdated and fixed
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Wokeness killed my dog and put flouride in my water!
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