Son of Durin

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I have a feeling I know the answer, but can you help Carol without the Sasha sub stuff?
You can help Carol or Rachel (there may be a third choice, but I don't remember), but not both/all.

If you want a Carol focused path, choose to help her; if you want a Rachel focused path, help her. Honestly, do one for each because there's a pretty smokin' sexting call with Rachel in the latest release that you can only get by helping her via Sasha.
 

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You can help Carol or Rachel (there may be a third choice, but I don't remember), but not both/all.

If you want a Carol focused path, choose to help her; if you want a Rachel focused path, help her. Honestly, do one for each because there's a pretty smokin' sexting call with Rachel in the latest release that you can only get by helping her via Sasha.
That I understand, but are there consequences to not taking Sasha's help? Like will I no longer be able to help Carol? Rn I'm on a Carol solo path for reference
 

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That I understand, but are there consequences to not taking Sasha's help? Like will I no longer be able to help Carol? Rn I'm on a Carol solo path for reference
So far it hasn't been a problem on either route - it just seems to be a matter of a scene option here and there right now. For Carol, there are other ways to get under Abigail's skin and get her off of Carol's back if you choose to help Rachel and you get a wilder Rachel scene in the latest release, but things up to that point were otherwise similar - different dialogues, some more drama with the husband early on that makes the help more necessary, but the story advances with both ladies either way. Likewise, Rachel still gets where she needs to be if you help Carol, but there seems to be less drama about it.

But, that's also a good reason to do a split when you have to choose: you get to experience all of the consequences, and all of the benefits, of both choices.

You simply can't have it all in a single run without employing big-time cheats, and as Sancho always says, that's a good way to break your play through.
 
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So far it hasn't been a problem on either route - it just seems to be a matter of a scene option here and there right now. For Carol, there are other ways to get under Abigail's skin and get her off of Carol's back if you choose to help Rachel and you get a wilder Rachel scene in the latest release, but things up to that point were otherwise similar - different dialogues, some more drama with the husband early on that makes the help more necessary, but the story advances with both ladies either way. Likewise, Rachel still gets where she needs to be if you help Carol, but there seems to be less drama about it.

But, that's also a good reason to do a split when you have to choose: you get to experience all of the consequences, and all of the benefits, of both choices.

You simply can't have it all in a single run without employing big-time cheats, and as Sancho always says, that's a good way to break your play through.
Okay fair enough, I'm probably gonna choose to help Carol, but at one point I thought about refusing her help altogether. Not to into being someone's toy, but if it saves Carol any suffering, I'll do it. Best case scenario would be to ignore Sasha and save Carol, but I doubt I'd get there without Carol getting fucked over a bit
 
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Okay fair enough, I'm probably gonna choose to help Carol, but at one point I thought about refusing her help altogether. Not to into being someone's toy, but if it saves Carol any suffering, I'll do it. Best case scenario would be to ignore Sasha and save Carol, but I doubt I'd get there without Carol getting fucked over a bit
It's actually kind of fun, but I understand that some folks think a little bit of sub-kink in a game somehow diminishes them IRL. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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rampage97,

What did you PM me and then kick me out of? All I got was a ping and an email... then you booted me before I could see it. Is there a problem?
 

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1.3.0 is running a little behind schedule - here is an update from the dev, including a forecast for the release.
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[News] Dev's blog #71
Hey there!
- Ended (Rachel and Yuki won)
- will be ended on August 10 (Sara and Yuki are leading so far)
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Important
Development of version 1.3.0 is slightly behind schedule, maybe 1-2 days delayed. The main reason for this is that I'm dedicating a significant amount of time to writing dialogue for the upcoming event with Yuki. I'm not sure why exactly, but for some reason, I'm having a really hard time with it.
Currently, I've completed about 75-80% of the planned work.
The roughly scheduled release date for the 1.3.0 update is the second half of August.
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About the v1.3.0 update
1) Events:

  • 2 events with Nikki -- 100% complete
  • 1 big event with Yuki -- 60% complete
  • 1 small event with Yuki -- 100% complete
  • 1 event with Carol -- 100% complete
  • 1 event with Rachel -- 100% complete
  • 1 small event with Sara (2 versions) -- 100% complete
  • 1 event with Ashley -- 100% complete
  • 1 additional event with Rachel -- 100% complete
The remaining planned events mentioned in the previous news post:
  • 1 event with Kim -- I really want to do a hot scene with Kim, but I don't think I can make it good enough for this update.
    However, I'll try to add a brief phone conversation that describes what was going on with Kim over the weekend and her plans for the next week.
    There will definitely be an event with Kim in the update 1.3.5.
  • 1 event with Sasha -- I think I can squeeze in a small event with Sasha. It won't be as big as I want, but it's better than nothing.
    Unlike the event with Kim, the one with Sasha cannot be postponed due to its relevance to the plot.
  • 1 main event -- This event will be postponed to the next updates.
Also, as mentioned in the last news post, I had to make some cuts to the events.
Moreover, I've decided not to create an and instead expand the big one that's already in development. Creating another event with her became challenging as I struggled to come up with something sufficiently engaging.
2) Renders and animations:
830 renders and 11 animations are ready -- Roughly planned: 1000-1200 renders and 8-10 animations
3) Other things:
  • some bug fixes
  • some code optimization
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Best wishes,
Dream Now
 

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Part of me really wants to pursue both Carol and Ash, but I don't that'll end well. But not sure how to take a friend route with Ash if necessary, considering I'm already doing her sex lessons
 
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But not sure how to take a friend route with Ash if necessary, considering I'm already doing her sex lessons
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  • 2 events with Nikki -- 100% complete
  • 1 big event with Yuki -- 60% complete
  • 1 small event with Yuki -- 100% complete
  • 1 event with Carol -- 100% complete
  • 1 event with Rachel -- 100% complete
  • 1 small event with Sara (2 versions) -- 100% complete
  • 1 event with Ashley -- 100% complete
  • 1 additional event with Rachel -- 100% complete
Its so awesome that nikki clearly has the same clout on patreon as id want her to have.
 
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my phone flagged the latest apk as infected with virus, false positive or someone else got it?
Never seen that before and I have installed a lot of apps from this site and others XD
 

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I don't know how popular or unpopular my opinion will be, but I don't care and I'll share it anyway: you must never release extra scenes with a girl who hasn't done those "activities" in the actual game because it destroys the anticipation built up in the story. It really doesn't make any sense to me, as well as from my pov it always hurts the playing experience.

Yeah, I'm a bit pissed... No, I'm VERY pissed now that I've just seen Nikki's extra scene since it especially makes no sense considering her teasing games in the main story, but the same had happened before with Sara, Lexi, etc. FFS, take to opportunity to take the massage a bit further, maybe making her cum by groping her boobs, or having her wank the MC after touching his balls. But full sex right there? Fuck out of here! It's downright stupid!
 
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I don't know how popular or unpopular my opinion will be, but I don't care and I'll share it anyway: you must never release extra scenes with a girl who hasn't done those "activities" in the actual game because it destroys the anticipation built up in the story. It really doesn't make any sense to me, as well as from my pov it always hurts the playing experience.

Yeah, I'm a bit pissed... No, I'm VERY pissed now that I've just seen Nikki's extra scene since it especially makes no sense considering her teasing games in the main story, but the same had happened before with Sara, Lexi, etc. FFS, take to opportunity to take the massage a bit further, maybe making her cum by groping her boobs, or having her wank the MC after touching his balls. But full sex right there? Fuck out of here! It's downright stupid!
No i agree 100%, I think i had ranted on this a few pages back.

Dream scenes or imaginary scenes in porn games in general are stupid, because so much of the appeal in porn games comes from "crossing that line" with a given love interest, and a dream version is like a cheap fake version of that (mentally if that makes sense- obviously you're seeing same pictures) - but you feel robbed of the experience.
 

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I don't know how popular or unpopular my opinion will be, but I don't care and I'll share it anyway: you must never release extra scenes with a girl who hasn't done those "activities" in the actual game because it destroys the anticipation built up in the story. It really doesn't make any sense to me, as well as from my pov it always hurts the playing experience.

Yeah, I'm a bit pissed... No, I'm VERY pissed now that I've just seen Nikki's extra scene since it especially makes no sense considering her teasing games in the main story, but the same had happened before with Sara, Lexi, etc. FFS, take to opportunity to take the massage a bit further, maybe making her cum by groping her boobs, or having her wank the MC after touching his balls. But full sex right there? Fuck out of here! It's downright stupid!
I take your point, but in that case, why torture yourself? Just don't click on the 'Extra' tab.

Or if you only find some of the scenes objectionable, the scene preview image should usually be enough to flag a warning.

Personally, I'm able to compartmentalise enough to enjoy the extra scenes as taking place in non-cannon alternative realities. Without playing that mind-trick on myself, I don't think I could watch any of the extras.
 

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I take your point, but in that case, why torture yourself? Just don't click on the 'Extra' tab.

Or if you only find some of the scenes objectionable, the scene preview image should usually be enough to flag a warning.

Personally, I'm able to compartmentalise enough to enjoy the extra scenes as taking place in non-cannon alternative realities. Without playing that mind-trick on myself, I don't think I could watch any of the extras.
You are right about me, I should just skip the extra scenes altogether considering the previous letdowns.
But admitting that I shouldn't torture myself by seeing the extra scenes, I felt like I needed to voice my opinion because it shouldn't be that way and everyone should be able to enjoy the extra content if the dev approached them in a more sensible way.
For me, it's a matter of common sense: if Nikki's teasing is the most important part of her character in her relationship with the MC, and we are all looking forward to the moment when she and the MC will have sex after such a long build-up, why the hell would anyone think it would be a good idea to have them fuck in the extra scene when they haven't even made each other cum in the game yet?

The extra scenes are a great chance to increase the spiciness of the scenes featured in the real game. As I said, maybe the MC could have continued massaging her boobs until Nikki came, or she could have stroked her cock while she touched her balls. Both the MC massaging her boobs and her stroking his balls are things that did happen in the game so it wouldn't change too much.
Another idea: Nikki didn't want the MC to cum, right? She wanted him to save his cum for whatever she has planned for the following morning in her studio. Well, in the extra scene when she stays for the night she could have let the MC cum. In the actual scene, she kissed his balls; maybe take that a bit further and have her jerk him off while licking his balls and then he can come on her tits. That's way more sexual than what happened in the game but doesn't skip right to sex.
It takes more planning and careful consideration of you want to show, but that's what makes a game stand out.
 
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You are right about me, I should just skip the extra scenes altogether considering the previous letdowns.
But admitting that I shouldn't torture myself by seeing the extra scenes, I felt like I needed to voice my opinion because it shouldn't be that way and everyone should be able to enjoy the extra content if the dev approached them in a more sensible way.
For me, it's a matter of common sense: if Nikki's teasing is the most important part of her character in her relationship with the MC, and we are all looking forward to the moment when she and the MC will have sex after such a long build-up, why the hell would anyone think it would be a good idea to have them fuck in the extra scene when they haven't even made each other cum in the game yet?

The extra scenes are a great chance to increase the spiciness of the scenes featured in the real game. As I said, maybe the MC could have continued massaging her boobs until Nikki came, or she could have stroked her cock while she touched her balls. Both the MC massaging her boobs and her stroking his balls are things that did happen in the game so it wouldn't change too much.
Another idea: Nikki didn't want the MC to cum, right? She wanted him to save his cum for whatever she has planned for the following morning in her studio. Well, in the extra scene when she stays for the night she could have let the MC cum. In the actual scene, she kissed his balls; maybe take that a bit further and have her jerk him off while licking his balls and then he can come on her tits. That's way more sexual than what happened in the game but doesn't skip right to sex.
It takes more planning and careful consideration of you want to show, but that's what makes a game stand out.
Then, It comes down to how many share your point of view.

As I said I'm somewhat persuaded, but in reality, neither of our opinions matter that much. Since the Extended version is supposed to be only for $20/month and above subscribers, it really comes down to how many of them share your point of view.
 
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