What does the "Swinging" tag mean?

fh321

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I see this tag used quite often, but it seems very rarely that it applies to games where a committed couple swap partners, which is what I always thought 'swinging' meant. I have seen it oftentime slapped onto NTR games (swinging =/= cuckolding), or female protag games (swinging =/= cheating or 'hotwifing'), sometimes even on harem games (swinging... I guess could be threesomes?). Is it swinging if only one part of the couple, be it the man or woman, is sleeping with other people?

This thread isn't to debate what is and isn't swinging BTW. I just wanted to get a sense of what the heck it means in the context of the tags on here.
 

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I see it as a way to try and sidestep the NTR tag discussion drama, but I don't know how effective it is. I have a game that I'm going to be posting soonish that has actual swinging, and I'm debating just throwing an NTR tag on there too, just so nobody complains.
 
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I see what you mean. I do like swinging games but yea i did noticed that if it had a "swinging" tag it was mostly a Netorase game (wife sharing). So it usually the main female having the fun while the male watches. I love NTR/Netorase games but I think we should have a tag for specifically swing since it's a different genre than NTR/Netorase.
 
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  • Swinging [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]
Here is the 'tag definition' of F95.

I don't quite agree with this, Half of it, yes. Both partners I think should be engaged in sex with others, usually another couple.
If the wife or husband is the only one engaged in sex, in this scenario, I would would consider that hotwife/hothusband. However, we don't have a tag for hotwife. So I suppose this is as close as you can get with what tags we have at the moment.
 

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I see this tag used quite often, but it seems very rarely that it applies to games where a committed couple swap partners, which is what I always thought 'swinging' meant. I have seen it oftentime slapped onto NTR games (swinging =/= cuckolding), or female protag games (swinging =/= cheating or 'hotwifing'), sometimes even on harem games (swinging... I guess could be threesomes?). Is it swinging if only one part of the couple, be it the man or woman, is sleeping with other people?

This thread isn't to debate what is and isn't swinging BTW. I just wanted to get a sense of what the heck it means in the context of the tags on here.
This is down to the general attitude of people on the site. For a huge chunk of people on f95 there is no gap between absolutely loyal LI and NTR. If the LI is breathed on by any other male character people crap their pants and scream NTR. In one thread earlier today someone even called Johnny Sins a cuck because his wife is a porn star. They have no understanding of open relationships or swinging other than to scream "CUCK" and rant about NTR.
 

fh321

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  • Swinging [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]
Here is the 'tag definition' of F95.

I don't quite agree with this, Half of it, yes. Both partners I think should be engaged in sex with others, usually another couple.
If the wife or husband is the only one engaged in sex, in this scenario, I would would consider that hotwife/hothusband. However, we don't have a tag for hotwife. So I suppose this is as close as you can get with what tags we have at the moment.
Yes, your reply nails my thoughts 100%. In my head (and I know it's a bit subjective), the difference between hotwives and swingers is that hotwife means only the woman is 'engaged' with the third party, while swingers the husband is getting his with someone alongside the wife/third party.

Fairly different kinks, which is why I brought the topic up!
 

fh321

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This is down to the general attitude of people on the site. For a huge chunk of people on f95 there is no gap between absolutely loyal LI and NTR. If the LI is breathed on by any other male character people crap their pants and scream NTR. In one thread earlier today someone even called Johnny Sins a cuck because his wife is a porn star. They have no understanding of open relationships or swinging other than to scream "CUCK" and rant about NTR.
You're right. It's an odd phenomenon. I understand not wanting your real life wife/girlfriend to cheat on you. But I also can play Call of Duty without wanting to join the army.
I mean, internet pornography has been around for, what, more than a quarter of a century. You'd think people could understand the differences between fantasy and reality, but oh well....
 
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simarimas

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I see it as a way to try and sidestep the NTR tag discussion drama, but I don't know how effective it is. I have a game that I'm going to be posting soonish that has actual swinging, and I'm debating just throwing an NTR tag on there too, just so nobody complains.
Having the tag won't stop people complaining, believe me. When we made our game, we put in BOLD letters that the MC and his wife would have sex with others. We also added the NTR tag, even though we didn't add NTR until around the 3rd Chapter of the game. Still we got a ton of complaints. The Mods actually removed like 3 pages from our thread due to it. Just realize going in, that people are going to bitch. And let it roll off your back.
 

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I see it as a way to try and sidestep the NTR tag discussion drama, but I don't know how effective it is. I have a game that I'm going to be posting soonish that has actual swinging, and I'm debating just throwing an NTR tag on there too, just so nobody complains.
If your game doesn't have NTR, don't tag it as such. Swinging is not NTR and if people perceive it as such, that's their problem, not yours. You have to remember that there are two different NTR brigades and tagging something that isn't NTR as such will likely bring as much hate as not tagging something that is.

Why bend the knee when raising the finger is so much easier?
 

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I see this tag used quite often, but it seems very rarely that it applies to games where a committed couple swap partners, which is what I always thought 'swinging' meant. I have seen it oftentime slapped onto NTR games (swinging =/= cuckolding), or female protag games (swinging =/= cheating or 'hotwifing'), sometimes even on harem games (swinging... I guess could be threesomes?). Is it swinging if only one part of the couple, be it the man or woman, is sleeping with other people?

This thread isn't to debate what is and isn't swinging BTW. I just wanted to get a sense of what the heck it means in the context of the tags on here.
it's a cover all tag which includes netorase since the ntr tag (now renamed netorare) was only for netorare. with the coming tag revamp, swinging and netorase will have different tags (i think, been awhile since i checked the list)
 
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it's a cover all tag which includes netorase since the ntr tag (now renamed netorare) was only for netorare. with the coming tag revamp, swinging and netorase will have different tags (i think, been awhile since i checked the list)
WHEN IS IT COMING? I think we should collectively stop referring to this mystical tag revamp lol. It's been "coming" for like 5 years.
 

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WHEN IS IT COMING? I think we should collectively stop referring to this mystical tag revamp lol. It's been "coming" for like 5 years.
yeah but it's getting closer and closer. it's only been not even a year since the tag revamp thread was added in announcements and there is a lot of other stuff that uses up the limited time available to work on the tag revamp. like recently with the malware scare.
 

tanstaafl

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Cucking requires being unfaithful as part of it.

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Swinging and open relationships by definition don't have any infidelity. So, no cucking. People need to get that through their head. It's also why I hate Netorase. It's nearly impossible to get that level of sociopathy or pathetic into a story well.
 
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As a real world expert on the topic let me clear this hot mess up for everyone.

Swinging is simply an open sexual lifestyle where people are not sexually exclusive to a single person. The lucrative swing scene is made up of couples and the vast majority of those are married couples. Singles may participate as playthings, but some clubs dont allow them. Swing clubs are very common worldwide.

Under swinging we have many categories.
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One of the most popular and controversial categories is hotwifing. A hotwife is a married woman that has sex with other men with full support of her husband, but the husband remains faithful only to his wife. Such a woman is called a hotwife(one word), not to be confused with term a "hot wife". On some occasions the word slutwife or vixen is also used.

The husbands fall into two categories and in this scene . These two are cucks/beta and stags/alpha .

Cuckolds , commonly referred to as cucks.

Cuckolding is a very popular swing subculture and where the wife/gf has sex with other men and the husband/bf gets off on the active humiliation aspect of this dynamic. Cuckolds are typically bi natured subs that wish to be dominated by the wife(Cuckoldress) and her alpha sexual partners known as bulls. Cucks are known to wear chastity cages on their cocks , eat creampies , and even dress in womens clothing . These Cucks are also commonly called sissies.

Stags

A Stag is a husband that similarly supports his wife having sex with other men and remains exclusive, but also remains alpha and in control of the situation. These are confident men that enjoy watching their wives get off in front of them like a personal porn star and have no interest in the other men.
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