What genres/stories are "popular" but lack as actual games?

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I started to look for female protagonist game, where the main character is a teacher, and I was surprised these games are actually only a few. The good one even less. Unlike porn, where you face a lot of school/maids/doctors there are almost none of these in games. What is the reason?
 

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Doctors who make video games in their spare time, usually go for the fantasy genre rather than bringing their work into their hobby. Doctor - patient confidentiality doesn't apply if you change the story and make them an Elf.

A female teacher making adult games where she gets gangbanged by her students could get her in trouble at work. Imagine if one of those students played the game, and said "hey that looks like me... OMG is that Miss Wilson?" He'd run and tell his mommy that a teacher was virtually molesting him... there would be a lawsuit against the school... the jury would be shown pictures of his penis.
 

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So you'd have to be a female teacher to make a game about a female teacher? I think not.
Probably everybody is too busy making incest games right now, give it time...
 

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I think we are going slightly off track here. OP asked which genres are popular, but seems to be under-represented in adult games (personally don't see "female teacher" as a genre in itself, but each to his own).

I would probably say something like bestiality. It's a somewhat popular fetish, but not a lot of games has it. This is almost certainly because of patreon and their harsh TOS. While Incest can be easily disguised with the "landlady/roommate" thing, bestiality is harder to hide. Shame, because even though it is not near the top of my fav fetishes, I can enjoy a couple of scenes with it, every now and then.
 
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In my opinion, Futanari is one of the most popular themes underrated or forgotten by the developers. Right now there's only one - that I'm aware of - project that is focused on this genre and it makes good money: Futadom World. Their major problem is that they don't update the game in a short time.
 

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In my opinion, Futanari is one of the most popular themes underrated or forgotten by the developers. Right now there's only one - that I'm aware of - project that is focused on this genre and it makes good money: Futadom World. Their major problem is that they don't update the game in a short time.
I just clicked on the catalog and futa/trans tag has 12 pages. Incest has 24. I wouldn't call that unpopular. Unless I'm missing something?
 
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I think we are going slightly off track here. OP asked which genres are popular, but seems to be under-represented in adult games (personally don't see "female teacher" as a genre in itself, but each to his own).
Yea, seems like my poor choice of words confused the people.
 

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I just clicked on the catalog and futa/trans tag has 12 pages. Incest has 24. I wouldn't call that unpopular. Unless I'm missing something?
Personally would like to add that one thing is that there is a difference between focusing on and having a bit of.

If you see the games you will find out that most of them will just have a character, most of the times absolutely optional and kind of outside the "plot" itself.

On the other hand when a game has incest, it's usually as the focus of the game and then additional girls outside it in many cases, for example Big brother is an incest game, even if later on it tried to expand to more girls.

Let's take another example with female domination, many games add it but as it happens with futa it is usually a character that does it and even more it is very optional, however it is better represented compared to futas, a femdom game would be for example Monster girl quest, it's the main focus.

Basically it's important to find the line between a "game that focuses on a fetish" and a "game that has a fetish within it".

P.D: Personally I think that all fetishes related to MC submission towards other characters is underdeveloped.
 

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Male MC*, because for females the odd one is fiding a game where the LadyMC doesn't bend over to every living creature she encounters.
That's my white whale, finding a female MC game where she only dates handsome dudes in a respectful manner. Similar to games like "Life with Mary" or "Become a Rock Star" but with a female lead. Everything is corruption, blackmail or any other thing that will make her become a cumdumpster for old, fat and hideous men.
 

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I would also love a well-written female protag game in which she's sexually adventurous, has complete agency over her sexuality, and all the designated lust objects are of proportional attractiveness and appeal. Give me, say, Depraved Awakening but with a female detective.

I feel like The Adventurous Couple was (path issues aside) able to pull this off almost to the end of the original version, but then the weirdness started to creep in. I think Ideology in Friction also managed it (putting aside the "raped by every passing monster" issue; I'd love to play a version of that game in which the MC can be a completely joyous slut that insists on strict consensuality without waiting for certain late-game items to become available). But it's damned rare.
 

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I would also love a well-written female protag game in which she's sexually adventurous, has complete agency over her sexuality, and all the designated lust objects are of proportional attractiveness and appeal. Give me, say, Depraved Awakening but with a female detective.

I feel like The Adventurous Couple was (path issues aside) able to pull this off almost to the end of the original version, but then the weirdness started to creep in. I think Ideology in Friction also managed it (putting aside the "raped by every passing monster" issue; I'd love to play a version of that game in which the MC can be a completely joyous slut that insists on strict consensuality without waiting for certain late-game items to become available). But it's damned rare.
This *points up*.

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That's my white whale, finding a female MC game where she only dates handsome dudes in a respectful manner. Similar to games like "Life with Mary" or "Become a Rock Star" but with a female lead. Everything is corruption, blackmail or any other thing that will make her become a cumdumpster for old, fat and hideous men.
I think the issue with this is that "Character meets someone they hit off with, has nothing super notable going on, they hook up and stay together." lacks much in the way of drama. Corruption / Blackmail and other versions of Dub-Con allow two forces to push against each other to create its drama.

You could entirely write a game with a pretty 'normal' or healthy female lead who's into a normal guy and they are generally respectful towards each other, but the game would have to be focused on something else. Like a normal heroic story where a husband and wife (or simply connected couple) are the adventuring party, and the sexaul stuff is generally more sidelined narratively (even if common), but now the writer really needs to find a reason for them to go at it and it to take center stage. I actually sorta think it would be interesting subjectively, to see that structure, like Star Wars, but they have some hookups along the way, but those hook ups I think are going to feel really forced and really tacked on in some way.

I feel like most of the plots as above steer entirely into NTR (and then into corruption / blackmail in pretty short order if they didn't start that way). And even if I personally like corruption plots for my porn, I also like different stuff, so I hope someone pushes the effort forth to make it, even if it ends up a flop (nothing sells like specialization to niche markets, or at least, nothing garners extremely vocal supportlike a niche market being shilled to).

TL;DR - Story writing falls into coventional traps that result in a normal, non-sexaul story, while it is easier to write stupid corruption plots over and over, and dumb shits like me will constantly consume recycled plots pretty easily.
 
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I would also love a well-written female protag game in which she's sexually adventurous, has complete agency over her sexuality, and all the designated lust objects are of proportional attractiveness and appeal. Give me, say, Depraved Awakening but with a female detective.

I feel like The Adventurous Couple was (path issues aside) able to pull this off almost to the end of the original version, but then the weirdness started to creep in. I think Ideology in Friction also managed it (putting aside the "raped by every passing monster" issue; I'd love to play a version of that game in which the MC can be a completely joyous slut that insists on strict consensuality without waiting for certain late-game items to become available). But it's damned rare.
So you want a porn version of Sex and the City?

Kidding, but jokes aside I'd say the whole point of hentai games is to enjoy stuff that is not really doable in real life (or not allowed in other types of fiction). The kind of story you describe has been done in many movies and porn movies....
I really don't see why we would want to play a game so vanilla, honestly. Might as well just watch much better movies with real actresses than some poorly rendered DAZ imitations.
 

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You think Depraved Awakening is like Sex in the City? Really?

No, that's absolutely nothing like what I'm describing.

I'm not sure why a game about a woman who can (if she chooses) have a wide variety of sexual experiences with a wide variety of partners is any different from a man in the same position and with the same choices, and yet we have tons of the latter and almost none of the former. The big difference, and the one I'm complaining about, is that even when we do get games featuring a woman (whether or not she's the protagonist/POV character) having sex with lots of partners, she's almost always the witting or unwitting victim of lechers, creeps, blackmailers, rapists, zombies, minotaurs, etc., etc., etc. It's extremely rare for any of those partners to be attractive or appealing in their own right; they always have to coerce the woman into sex, whether or not she ends up enjoying it. In almost none of these games does the female protagonist have agency; sex is something that is done to her, and your task as a player is to navigate her into situations where what little agency she attempts to assert is stripped away. Usually literally. That's...depressing.

Obviously there can (and probably should) be some sort of framing device aside from "want sex/get sex," but that has nothing to do with the gender and the visual/emotional/mental/sexual appeal of the potential lust objects. We could have, to pull a completely random and never-before used idea out of the ether, an attractive and wealthy but reserved woman who, through a series of unexpected events, ends up with a down-on-his-luck actor living in her enormous house. They bond, then start fooling around, and eventually it turns out that he's got another friend who starts hanging around and making his own interest clear, at which time you're given the choice to choose one or the other or even start moving towards a three-way relationship. Meanwhile, there's this super hot but slightly...off...nurse you can bang, a few other random hookups (some of which will eventually cause trouble with one of your primary relationships), a crazy and overprotective mother with a violent streak, a house explosion...

Or we could have a game in which a devastatingly sexy but retired singer, fresh out of a broken marriage and trying to make a new start as a teacher, takes on a sheltered young man with musical aspirations as a student. She can slowly become more than his teacher, say yes to the bolder advances of his more confident pal (who also happens to be an aspiring musician) and who doesn't seem to mind sharing you with his buddy, return the equally obvious interest from his handsome uncle, start up a relationship with the nerdy but stealthily attractive and extremely well-hung neighbor, or even use all these experiences to become a better person while you try to rebuild your relationship with your ex.

Now: obviously I just stole the settings of two extremely popular games and reversed the genders, but neither is so off-the-wall that it couldn't exist by now. But it doesn't. Not even close. Instead we get Anna and Elena and Ayame and Manila and all their busty clones trudging around RPGM maps looking for the next glowing star where they can experience the joy of being victimized via the most transparent and threadbare illogic of their blackmailers and assaulters. Again. And again. And again. Story? Plot? Yes: get your hapless woman fucked as often as possible, by the most hideous partners possible. Or don't, but then you won't see any sex scenes after the first (the one with her utterly clueless fiancé).

To the objection that a horny and attractive woman wouldn't have much trouble getting laid and thus there's no degree of difficulty...well, then there's your story challenge. Find her one. Make her climb the corporate ladder, or be forced to choose between exhausting (but game-necessary) work and the hot coworker who wants to go out for drinks, or make her a spy infiltrating a Hollywood studio (or a porn studio), or really any plot of any game ever. The only reason it's "hard" for a male protag in the vast majority of games to get laid is because the dev arbitrarily decreed it so; the MC could have sex in every single frame if that's what the dev wanted, and the reasons the MC can't are just as arbitrary. They don't become less arbitrary just because the MC doesn't have a penis.

To the objection that people (presumably dudes) don't want to play a game in which the object is having sex "done to them" — an objection they should probably spend some time thinking about — the solution is the same as the aforementioned Bambi in Lechertown genre: point your camera at the MC. You're still playing a game in which you're trying to nail the hot woman on the screen in gront of you, the only difference is that she (rather than the NPCs) is the one you're making choices for. Now replace all the fat bosses and retired minotaur zombies and homeless tentacle monsters with attractive and interesting people, and don't even think about raping her. Is that really so hard?
 
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I would say BDSM done right is sadly lacking, but then again, it's sadly lacking in porn as well (with the exception of a couple of niche producers.)

I have to agree with Nottravis and Segnbora - female leads should have the same agency as males. I doubt that a game with a hot male MC that goes around getting raped by fat grandmas, slime monsters, or whatever ugly thing you can imagine would have nearly the same appeal as the reverse.

Until we, as men, decide to do better there will continue to be a huge disparity in what's okay for a male MC and a female MC. Sadly, it's a reflection of our culture: men who have lots of sexual partners are seen as good, and normal, while women who have lots of sexual partners are labeled "sluts" or worse.
 

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I would also love a well-written female protag game in which she's sexually adventurous, has complete agency over her sexuality, and all the designated lust objects are of proportional attractiveness and appeal. Give me, say, Depraved Awakening but with a female detective.

I feel like The Adventurous Couple was (path issues aside) able to pull this off almost to the end of the original version, but then the weirdness started to creep in. I think Ideology in Friction also managed it (putting aside the "raped by every passing monster" issue; I'd love to play a version of that game in which the MC can be a completely joyous slut that insists on strict consensuality without waiting for certain late-game items to become available). But it's damned rare.
Then this is your game: https://f95zone.to/threads/seraphim-academy-ch-1-3-trinity-games.15272/
 

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Females only + yuri + femdom + foot fetish/smell fetish. Quite common in 3D, especially with terrible, cheap assets, but extremely rare in 2D. If we further restrict it to ero guro (grotesque) content like scat, that's even less, especially if you also want them ported to the west.