HTML What is the appropriate way to share a game that has online components?

[Moral Hazard]

I'd like to share a game that depends on Cohere api calls--an internet connection is required. From my reading of the Games sticky, it seems this is not allowed. Is there any way for me to share this game on f95 or are such games totally forbidden?

 

[Penumbral Evanescence]

I'd like to share a game that depends on Cohere api calls--an internet connection is required. From my reading of the Games sticky, it seems this is not allowed. Is there any way for me to share this game on f95 or are such games totally forbidden?

Moral Hazard

So to my understanding, you are looking into the possibility of sharing/putting forth a game request with online components on the Zone?

Unfortunately, as per the 'Game Requesting Rules' outline, any multiplayer games (i.e., including those with multiplayer components) and/or multiplayer-only gameplay elements will be rejected by default.



So, unfortunately I do not believe that your request can be accomodated on the Zone as a result of what is documented in the 'Game Requesting Rules' policy outline.

 

[Goeffel]

well, it depends if those online parts are really necessary for the game. When not necessary, and someone cracks the program to remove that, then it can be shared here.

example:
https://f95zone.to/threads/hot-spring-hero-final-examgames.81421/

That game does not NEED online connection to be played, but it had a feature where you could let the game twitter and were rewarded with some goodies. Someone cracked the game so it does not go online/ twitter, but you still get the goodies. :-D

So, if those online bits are not crucial to the game, you could ask if someone can/ wants to remove the online bits.

but, likely small chances of it happening until some such crack has an interest of their own in that game ?

 

[Penumbral Evanescence]

but, likely small chances of it happening until some such crack has an interest of their own in that game ?

Well, I think you may have answered your own internal doubts there so to speak

While the mention of a crack is not a bad idea per-se, the only thing that matters here to make this a reality is as you had alluded to in your response "availability of the crack for this type of a game".

In that, should there be a crack that does exist to remove said online/multiplayer components from the game, or if such a crack does not exist out of the box, will it be something that a modder can programmatically develop from the ground up to remove said online element of the game and then have it featured here on the Zone.

But realistically, it also boils down to how "much" of the core game experience can be made accessible offline vs online. That is to say, assuming that much (if not all) of the core gameplay elements can be accessed offline and online functionality is not needed, then it's not so much of a problem and an easier sell to have it featured on F95 Zone.

However, on the flip side, presuming that online connectivity is a crucial part of the gameplay experience, then even if one were to introduce a crack, the game itself cannot be enjoyed to its fullest extent since the majority of the core gameplay experience can only be experienced via the online/multiplayer component, hence rendering the core gameplay elements quite uneventful, to say the least, and not so appropriate to then have featured on the Zone because users will not be able to get much out of the core gameplay experience.

P.S. Lastly, it may also depend on the popularity of the game being referenced here. And if it is not so popular/well-known of a game, then the likelihood of there being a crack to remove multiplayer and/or have a modder develop a crack from the ground might be slim, to say the least. Not an impossibility, but an improbability if the game is not so well known in the fanbase or worth the effort i cracking to being with

 

[Moral Hazard]

Well, I think you may have answered your own internal doubts there so to speak

While the mention of a crack is not a bad idea per-se, the only thing that matters here to make this a reality is as you had alluded to in your response "availability of the crack for this type of a game".

In that, should there be a crack that does exist to remove said online/multiplayer components from the game, or if such a crack does not exist out of the box, will it be something that a modder can programmatically develop from the ground up to remove said online element of the game and then have it featured here on the Zone.

But realistically, it also boils down to how "much" of the core game experience can be made accessible offline vs online. That is to say, assuming that much (if not all) of the core gameplay elements can be accessed offline and online functionality is not needed, then it's not so much of a problem and an easier sell to have it featured on F95 Zone.

However, on the flip side, presuming that online connectivity is a crucial part of the gameplay experience, then even if one were to introduce a crack, the game itself cannot be enjoyed to its fullest extent since the majority of the core gameplay experience can only be experienced via the online/multiplayer component, hence rendering the core gameplay elements quite uneventful, to say the least, and not so appropriate to then have featured on the Zone because users will not be able to get much out of the core gameplay experience.

P.S. Lastly, it may also depend on the popularity of the game being referenced here. And if it is not so popular/well-known of a game, then the likelihood of there being a crack to remove multiplayer and/or have a modder develop a crack from the ground might be slim, to say the least. Not an impossibility, but an improbability if the game is not so well known in the fanbase or worth the effort i cracking to being with

Thank you for the detailed feedback. Let me clarify. This is a game I've made and I'm trying to share it here--actually a few games, but they all have the same issue. Here is a link for reference:

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The online component is not multiplayer, but simply that the game uses the Command R+ LLM within the game logic and is set up to make API calls to Cohere since they have a free API tier. Is there another way I should share if it's my own content rather than a cracked game? Would making the game compatible with a local instance of the Command R+--even though setting that up would be a pain in the ass and it runs very slowly on most consumer grade hardware--be adequate?

 

[Penumbral Evanescence]

The online component is not multiplayer, but simply that the game uses the Command R+ LLM within the game logic and is set up to make API calls to Cohere since they have a free API tier.

Ah ok, that makes sense. If that is the case, then I see no problem with the game being posted here on the Zone.

Anyone can post games here, so I would recommend making a 'Game Request' using the following 'Read Me' guidelines.

Navigate to subsection 8 (Thread Template) and you will see detailed instructions on what format to follow when uploading your game.


I do have a question, though. Why would your game need to make an API call to Cohere? Does your game make us of some chatbot engine/persona in your game that uses parts of Cohere's LLM engine? Hence the need for the API call to fetch the data needed perhaps?

Oh, I see why the API is needed now perhaps.

Would making the game compatible with a local instance of the Command R+--even though setting that up would be a pain in the ass and it runs very slowly on most consumer grade hardware--be adequate?

I think that might affect the performance output of the game on end-user devices. So, I would advise against doing that. So long as your game is not "multiplayer" in the traditional sense when you refer to it as "online" then I see no issues with it being posted here on the Zone.

 

[Ryahn]

If it requires an internet connection to work, its not allowed.

 

[mentalmeddle]

Why not find a local LLM with better performance, then build around that? Obviously it would take some work, but I'd certainly be interested in these games if they were more accessible.