What's our opinion about AI generated porn and the sharing of an "all in one" sort of starter kit deal?

djaxis

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So, with how prevalent and out of control AI porn has been getting in some places, I felt that if i really wanted to properly understand it and form an up to date opinion on it, I should tinker with it some.

That tinkering has gone off the rails. Way, far, insanely off the rails. And with that, my opinion has changed, somewhat. I was steadfast against it. It was evil. It was theft. And, in many ways it still is. Make no mistake, it is an abhorrent technology and in its current iteration, generative AI art is the trashiest of trash that could possibly ooze out of a leaky trashcan.

But I get the allure. You bang on the keyboard some, and out comes porn. There are characters I'm a fan of, that not a lot of other people are, and I don't have the skills or money to make/commission "legit" art of them. Slap some words into the prompt box, have the right files selected, and BAM! Porn aplenty.

At the same time, on the morality side of it, I don't have a leg to stand on in regards to my opposition to it. If I'm willing to pirate games here, snag movies and tv shows off the 'bay, and pillage Kemono for Patreon material I don't sub to... I can't sit here and high horse AI stuff.

That all being said, would it be allowed and for that matter, do any of you guys have an interest in the sharing of my porn centric pile of files. Not the art, the actual generation stuff. Been spending the last few weeks/months downloading and testing stuff and rather laboriously putting a file together (initially for my own sanity) that basically cheatsheets all the generation keywords and etc. It's basic as fuck, but is searchable and easy enough to browse.

The file size would have to be through torrents. I have neither the patience and the interest in trying to get it all parsed down enough to upload to "normal" file hosts. I'd prolly break it up into packs. Like a BASIC basic starter pack, then say a cartoon character pack, a celebrity pack, genre pack... etc.

All in, what I have sorted so far in terms of checkpoints (the generation engines) and loras (the files that guide the engines) is a whopping ~250 gigs. BUT! It all works. Not necessarily everything with everything, but every lora has at least one checkpoint that works with it and every checkpoint has at least some kind of unique style or compatibility. There's not a lot of redundancy and in terms of things "working" it is literally a matter of if it doesn't seem to be working "right", just change the checkpoint and experiment some. Depending on if this ends up being "a thing" and if interest in it is enough, I could prolly work at amending my cheatsheet with basic guidelines on compatibility.

For those that would be pondering the hardware limitations, I've been cranking at this with a gaming laptop (so not a slouch) but one that is about a year old. It wasn't top of the line (about $1k when I got it) but isn't a super basic one. There has been some crashes (mostly due to my refusal to not multitask) but it isn't slow and on the lower settings coupled with the "quicker" generation settings, it's been absurdly impressive in terms of what I've been able to pump out while being on the mid range of horsepower.

So sound off in here, mods delete this if it violates anything, and let me know where we stand on this. In theory over the next few days I could start getting stuff parsed into a basic "test" bundle if there's some adventurers that want to be my guinea pigs.
 

tanstaafl

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So, um, ok? I don't see anything there relevant to what I'm talking about or answering my questions. If you're going to reply like a jackass at least put some effort into it.
Do the search, find the dozens of posts that are almost exactly like yours, read them.
 

djaxis

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Do the search, find the dozens of posts that are almost exactly like yours, read them.


*sigh* jackasses are going to jackass I suppose. Did you read my post? Or just keyboard warrior it after the title line? Did you actually browse those results? Or just keyboard warrior it again? The only posts that are there that could be construed as "dozens" are posts slamming games using these kinds of assets (which this isn't about) and people asking for recommendations on sites to get started with this stuff, which this IS about, in terms of at least doing it locally which would allow there to be no SFW roadblacks.

I'll admit I only went five pages back. Please correct me if suddenly at page six it turns into a whole lot "hell no, we don't want anything AI at any point.

Since your literacy appears to be stunted, my post is about not sharing any art. Rather sharing the TOOLS and the MATERIALS to set anyone up for instant porn generation. If you could find another post directly offering that, that doesn't involve being a necro, sure, you were right I was wrong and a post slipped the cracks, wouldn't be DOZENS but whatever, one would be close enough I suppose lol.
 

Count Morado

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There are a shitton of AI generative art threads (POST AI HERE *NO TEENS* threads). I mean one user seems to open a new one each week and are always in the list of latest posts. Seems like reaching out to people who post their work in those threads could have the highest interest and would have made sense to post in there with a few examples of your work and then suggest sharing tools and materials.

Then there is the big thread that was started over 2 years ago with a similar idea: https://f95zone.to/threads/stable-diffusion-prompt-sharing-and-learning-thread.146036/
that thread still gets a few posts each week. So would be another place to reach out.

That's some of what tanstaafl meant. There's a shitton of sharing of info and the rest on this forum -- and easily found. Good luck.
 
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djaxis

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There are a shitton of AI generative art threads (POST AI HERE *NO TEENS* threads). I mean one user seems to open a new one each week and are always in the list of latest posts. Seems like reaching out to people who post their work in those threads could have the highest interest and would have made sense to post in there with a few examples of your work and then suggest sharing tools and materials.

Then there is the big thread that was started over 2 years ago with a similar idea: https://f95zone.to/threads/stable-diffusion-prompt-sharing-and-learning-thread.146036/
that thread still gets a few posts each week. So would be another place to reach out.

That's some of what tanstaafl meant. There's a shitton of sharing of info and the rest on this forum -- and easily found. Good luck.
Gods the hell damn do you guys just not read? This isn't about the prompts or the art. If it was, like you both said, and I AGREED, there are threads for this. My post, if you guys had actually read it, is about the actual, inner workings, FILES. The shit that a person would download to take all the generation offline, away from any SFW restrictions and to do whatever they wanted with.

I was trying to gauge interest in posting the tools, like how people post games here, but whatever. Apparently there's about as much interest in it as people have for actually reading a post and not jumping to conclusions.
 

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I understand and am interested, but wonder who'll sift through the files to make sure everything's safe
 

tanstaafl

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Gods the hell damn do you guys just not read? This isn't about the prompts or the art. If it was, like you both said, and I AGREED, there are threads for this. My post, if you guys had actually read it, is about the actual, inner workings, FILES. The shit that a person would download to take all the generation offline, away from any SFW restrictions and to do whatever they wanted with.

I was trying to gauge interest in posting the tools, like how people post games here, but whatever. Apparently there's about as much interest in it as people have for actually reading a post and not jumping to conclusions.
I personally have shared sites (civitai for models, checkpoints, loras, diffusers, etc), method, and examples of all of those in the last WEEK. They all would have showed up in a search IF YOU SEARCHED. Also, the file extension safetensors is an indication that the safety of the package has been verified (as far as you can expect from this kind of thing) for safety.