PervySageKem

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You are expected to choose Where The Heart Is. chasing every girl is just hedging you bets. and being a man slut. and fun to play that way sometimes. as for the girl on girl. your choice but everyone needs love too. its a game! so if your not going to choose Debbie or Lily why not keep them as friends you set up together and maybe enjoy benefits of their love as the MC has throughout the game. If Katie is your girl, once someone says yes they will say it again. you just have to hope the DEV agrees to make it an option (probably not) as no harem is planed for the game. and as for giving you how to get the girl you want the way you want in game save a lot try until you get it as close to your goal the game allows. the mod available can help
Wtf, there is no plans for an harem ending?
 
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felicemastronzo

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I've just completed a hyper-faithful run at Katie.... and I have to say I'm having some doubts about the impossibility of a special evening with the two sisters....

if we're talking about Monica, Katie reacts immediately very badly, but if we're talking about Jenna... she's dying of curiosity too... Who knows
 

HornyyPussy

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I've just completed a hyper-faithful run at Katie.... and I have to say I'm having some doubts about the impossibility of a special evening with the two sisters....

if we're talking about Monica, Katie reacts immediately very badly, but if we're talking about Jenna... she's dying of curiosity too... Who knows
Not together unfortunately since there will be no incest in the game.
 

Sorrow85

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Hi All,

Episode 21 progress continues to go really well - October was a really good month with all 3 of us working continuously on the game. No roadblocks / hiccups so I'm very happy with progress and we are still on track for a November release (latter half of the month).

I also spent a lot of time auditioning new writers this month to try to expand the team. We had over 50 applicants and are currently down to a shortlist of 3 candidates. It's a difficult task to try to find someone who is up to the task. At the moment, (in my opinion) it would be difficult for people to distinguish which scenes are written by me and which ones are written by Ace and that's exactly the goal so that you, the player, never feel like there are different styles / writers working on the game (It should read like a single writer). With Ace / me, we are completely on the same wavelength, so to bring a third person in that fits the bill is a long/tenuous process and if I feel none of the candidates meet the bar, then we will not extend the team as I do not want to decrease quality as the game progresses.

The longest part of the writing process is dealing with all of the variables, branches, multiple options, etc. If it was just a matter of writing dialog in a movie-script format, then our lives would be so much easier! :) So that's one of the difficulties we have with onboarding a new writer. (We scare them off when they look at our branching and how many previous decisions we need to keep track off :) )

It is also worth a mention that I don't know how Cell keeps up with the artwork demands. Considering he has me and Ace throwing work at him constantly and considering how many renders and animations we squeeze into every episode, it's crazy that he can keep up. He is a machine!!! So that's also why having another writer on-board will help. Writing is currently the bottleneck so having a third writer onboard will help alleviate that and could also free me up to spend a little more time helping Cell out with artwork.

But either way, the November timeline for episode 21 release is not dependent on us increasing the team. So even if it remains at us 3, we are still well on track for November.

Reminder of the girls who will appear in Episode 21: (Monica*, Jenna*, Katie, Elaine, Bella*, Angel*, Theresa*, plus a surprise.) The girls with an * have a "starring" role in the episode while those that don't have the asterix have a smaller / supporting role.

Let me know if any questions,

Thanks,

CG

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BeingADikDik

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Hi All,

Episode 21 progress continues to go really well - October was a really good month with all 3 of us working continuously on the game. No roadblocks / hiccups so I'm very happy with progress and we are still on track for a November release (latter half of the month).

I also spent a lot of time auditioning new writers this month to try to expand the team. We had over 50 applicants and are currently down to a shortlist of 3 candidates. It's a difficult task to try to find someone who is up to the task. At the moment, (in my opinion) it would be difficult for people to distinguish which scenes are written by me and which ones are written by Ace and that's exactly the goal so that you, the player, never feel like there are different styles / writers working on the game (It should read like a single writer). With Ace / me, we are completely on the same wavelength, so to bring a third person in that fits the bill is a long/tenuous process and if I feel none of the candidates meet the bar, then we will not extend the team as I do not want to decrease quality as the game progresses.

The longest part of the writing process is dealing with all of the variables, branches, multiple options, etc. If it was just a matter of writing dialog in a movie-script format, then our lives would be so much easier! :) So that's one of the difficulties we have with onboarding a new writer. (We scare them off when they look at our branching and how many previous decisions we need to keep track off :) )

It is also worth a mention that I don't know how Cell keeps up with the artwork demands. Considering he has me and Ace throwing work at him constantly and considering how many renders and animations we squeeze into every episode, it's crazy that he can keep up. He is a machine!!! So that's also why having another writer on-board will help. Writing is currently the bottleneck so having a third writer onboard will help alleviate that and could also free me up to spend a little more time helping Cell out with artwork.

But either way, the November timeline for episode 21 release is not dependent on us increasing the team. So even if it remains at us 3, we are still well on track for November.

Reminder of the girls who will appear in Episode 21: (Monica*, Jenna*, Katie, Elaine, Bella*, Angel*, Theresa*, plus a surprise.) The girls with an * have a "starring" role in the episode while those that don't have the asterix have a smaller / supporting role.

Let me know if any questions,

Thanks,

CG

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Hopefully the *starring* roles for Angel and Theresa are that they get hit by a bus and stop wasting screentime.
 

acewinz

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No, i think they have to participate in some kind of sexual act for it to be incest. When Katie put fake tan on Jenna it was a little erotic but no incest, a slippery slope I imagine
Haha. Cheeky and I were curious if that scene would trigger anything with the powers that be given that the MC can get pretty handsy with both girls in that situation, but I have noticed the parasitic money middlemen seem to turn a blind eye to lesbian incest when compared to the other kind anyway. Not that we are planning anything of the sort...
 

WhiteyG

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Haha. Cheeky and I were curious if that scene would trigger anything with the powers that be given that the MC can get pretty handsy with both girls in that situation, but I have noticed the parasitic money middlemen seem to turn a blind eye to lesbian incest when compared to the other kind anyway. Not that we are planning anything of the sort...
Are you not planning because you’ve already done it.;)


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t3alqdansam

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Haha. Cheeky and I were curious if that scene would trigger anything with the powers that be given that the MC can get pretty handsy with both girls in that situation, but I have noticed the parasitic money middlemen seem to turn a blind eye to lesbian incest when compared to the other kind anyway. Not that we are planning anything of the sort...
I see Bella will be in this update. Had to go and set my expectations. Yeeha! And Katie as well! Yay!
 

MrFriendly

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So when the new episode hits will we have an update only download or will we need to download the entire game again? I hate asking but I've not been on lately (RL gets in the way) and I am on my third PC of the year (so far, hopefully it will not die). Don't want to download the entire thing and then have to do it again.

Anyway, hope Cheeky, Ace, and that reprobate CS are doing well and we shall all be happily sated by the next update.

;)
 

geenius3ab

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Damn I only noticed the reason for the "on-hold" tag right now.


Hope the dev is doing better, and huge kudos for stopping the Patreon payments during this period, I'd hope that the negative response has been minimal, because if you ain't getting paid then you don't really have a responsibility regarding the development of the game either. Just stopping the payments has made you far better than a majority of other devs.
 

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acewinz Dumb Question:
Does a writer do the story and the dialog? I've played plenty of VN/Games where the story-line is really good but the dialog is "wordy" but not very engaging (erotic, sexually stimulating).

PS: Glad to see the search is ON!
 

acewinz

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So when the new episode hits will we have an update only download or will we need to download the entire game again? I hate asking but I've not been on lately (RL gets in the way) and I am on my third PC of the year (so far, hopefully it will not die). Don't want to download the entire thing and then have to do it again.

Anyway, hope Cheeky, Ace, and that reprobate CS are doing well and we shall all be happily sated by the next update.

;)
Cheeky confirms that the new version will have an update download in addition to the usual full version.

acewinz Dumb Question:
Does a writer do the story and the dialog? I've played plenty of VN/Games where the story-line is really good but the dialog is "wordy" but not very engaging (erotic, sexually stimulating).

PS: Glad to see the search is ON!
Depending how you mean, Cheeky has had the entire primary story mapped out and the main characters roles in it before he even started making the game. The details though as well as most all of our side arcs are created as we go.

When we are moving onto a new update, we get together and discuss what parts of the story are ready for telling, should come next, and pick out which of the scenes each of us is going to write. Often times it is as simple as "It is time for a date with so and so." "What/where sounds good and are there any major plot points we need to hit during it?"

From then on we pretty much work up the scenes we have on our own, but touch base to simply know what is happening, share ideas, and also keep each other on task. We both have our idiosyncrasies like all writers we can get caught up in if we aren't careful. :)

Speaking of writers... We seem to be having a hard time finding more of those that would seem to fit. There are a lot of hurdles really coming into a game in progress like WTHI. It is necessary to both know and love the characters, take a very general idea of a scene and a direction it is supposed to go, then make that happen with the right balance of entertainment, humor, sexiness, dialog, and choices. All while emulating/feeling the characters in question so you represent them in ways that are consistent.

This also isn't something that comes down to simply emulating Cheeky. There are plenty of times we talk about a character who's personality has been brought to life over 20 episodes now and have to think "would they do this or that? if they did would it require a particular catalyst/approach?" Just because you can write it doesn't mean it would feel right for the character. This kind of thing isn't too big a problem for Cheeky or myself after having worked with them as long as we have, but new people will have to fumble a bit (or a lot). Now add in our huge variable list keeping track of past choices and wanting to still keep giving people the ability to do so... Needless to say we scared some folks off. :/

Not that anyone should be worried. We will keep at it till we finish the game whether we find more folks to help or not. :D
 
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