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listen maggots, whoever leaks th' update will walk th' plank 'n will sleap at th' bottom o' th' sea
Indeed. That's why I don't understand the benefits of this move and advise against it.Considering the last few episodes have been leaked here almost immediately, and still the number of patrons keeps increasing, it would suggest that most of them value being part of the process and contributing to development, rather than just getting their hands on the goodies as fast as possible.
will any of these involve some pregg?Hey folks,
Just a quick update to say that Episode 9 is still on track for a 10th January update.
It will be released for $10 patrons first, then 1 week later for $5 patrons and then another week later for everyone else (public release).
I am fully expecting it to be pirated and available on this site much sooner than the "official" public release date.
I will not make an appeal for people to not pirate this release, because it's basically what F95 is all about. However, I am going to ask that out of a bit respect / support for myself and @Aeilion(and to show some appreciation for the game and the level of time/effort that we put into it), that you do not upload immediately.
So if possible, what I would ask is that you hold off pirating/uploading for 4-5 days after the initial release. It still means that the uploader will get the accolades from the F95 community as it will still be 9-10 days earlier than they would normally get it! (and my patrons get to see some reward for their money)
It would be much appreciated.
And as an added incentive (or bribe/threat depending on how you view it ), once WTHI is complete, I am going to create a "bonus" episode (or 2 episodes depending on size). This episode(s) will have some extra scenes (current goal is 9 or 10) that will not need to adhere to Patreon guidelines (as it will be released here and not on Patreon). There will obviously be lots of fun scenarios that can play out in these scenes that wouldn't make it through Patreon's safety net.
I'll even take requests (based on F95 polls) for some of these scenarios.
However for every future Episode of WTHI that gets released here before my 4-5 day wait request.... I'll cut one of these special scenes and they'll never be seen/experienced.
I'm hoping this will appeal to some people (waiting an extra few days for your pirated copy but with the incentive of extra/bonus/uncensored material after the game). I'll let you decide what's of more value.
I'm hoping this mutual incentive works out for us all, but if not, then at least I have two less (free) episodes that I need to worry about creating!
Thanks for reading,
CG
This is too good to pass up. @CheekyGimp may have a better answer, but I'm going to say it's probably a distinct possibility.will any of these involve some pregg?
I don't see it as black as you. Only 200 of Cheeky's Patreon could interfier with this. All the othe other are already a week behind them and so the release wouldn't happen before the 4-5 days frist. Then this patreon, corrected me if I'm wrong, must be a member of F95 otherwise he can't leak the game here - anynomous or not. Which would raise the question, if the game leaked on another site would we still be rewarded or not?People, I wouldn't go into speculation about the content of the extra episodes. Because we all know that we won't see a single one of it unless some mod crushes any upload attempt immediately, which won't happen.
Not trying to be Negative Nancy, just realistic.
This is just being melodramatic. Just because another website has a link to a game that isn't on F95 doesn't mean squat. F95 is king, and will always be king, no matter how many links it's missing.Let's say f95 says "You are offering a reward, so we'll hold your game for a week before releasing it to encourage people to sign up." The problem is another site that doesn't give a crap will leak immediately, and people will migrate away from f95 because some content is better than none.
People want content quickly and will go where they can get it. Maybe f95 could hold it for a day, two at most, but even that will test patience and loyalty while hurting f95's reputation.
I agree, but at least if someone posts it early, they're going to quickly realize their mistake with the amount of hate mail they're going to get.It's an interesting move. I'm not particularly hopeful, since I doubt the users posting the leaks have the patience to delay instant gratification for the promise of long-term rewards. But nice to see that Cheeky's thinking on his feet.
This is what I've been wondering as well. He did say F95 specifically, but I suppose he could be talking about any leaks regardless of which website they're on.Which would raise the question, if the game leaked on another site would we still be rewarded or not?
And your first post shows you didn't understand nothing.You delayed one month because of a piracy page you actively include yourself in and is giving you the exposure to reach the masses? Good job. Great game, no thanks to supporting creator.
The reward scheme I can totally get behind. Delaying a month release because of piracy is something else. Where would this game get noticed if not for this exact pirate site? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing CheekyGimp sent a request for this game to be uploaded to this page himself in the get go. Patreon is made for supporting, I support not only products, but also creators.And your first post shows you didn't understand nothing.
You know there's a saying: 'If you don't know what the heck you're talking about - STFU'You delayed one month because of a piracy page you actively include yourself in and is giving you the exposure to reach the masses? Good job. Great game, no thanks to supporting creator.
You should work on your reading comprehension skills. He's not delaying anything. He just asked his top tier patrons to not leak it for an extra 5 days with the incentive of extra content.The reward scheme I can totally get behind. Delaying a month release because of piracy is something else. Where would this game get noticed if not for this exact pirate site? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing CheekyGimp sent a request for this game to be uploaded to this page himself in the get go. Patreon is made for supporting, I support not only products, but also creators.
Yes, you're wrong. And Cheeky never blames F95, he blames his patrons.Correct me if I'm wrong
He also didn't charge Patrons for that month and had real life stuff going on such as work, etc. He didn't have to suspend that months payment, but he did anyway and his patrons still got a Christmas bonus due to his co-developer was making daily christmas themed renders throughout the month while Cheeky was sorting stuff out.Fair enough UncleVT, I can get behind what you're saying. DrFrog and WaltS, I would really like it if you told me what I don't know about what I'm talking about. I read the latest pages of the thread, and CheekyGimp wrote;
"And bear in mind that one of the factors of there not being a December release was because of the piracy in November. I was so pissed off about the immediate piracy that I stopped working on the game for over a week. "
This january delay, the "reward scheme" as people said, I said I can get behind. Please read what I write before you start touting your horn.