Why adding a patch for incest content ?

Torontota

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Hi, i was wondering, what was the necessity of creating an incest patch
when you can just (in the script game) put "mother" instead of "stepmother" or "landlady"
It is for legal issue than peoples never said explicitly than the stepmother in the game is actually supposed to be the real mom taboo in the first place ?
Or just a tool to make the player choose his own "relationship" even if it's not that different
Publishing a game with explicit incest in it is something banned from platform like Patreon or somehow ?
Other reasons ?

thanks you for your time :) have a great day
 

TheBlueKnight

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It's one of the things on patreon, scroll down to the 18+ part.
 
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Delmach

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Even step relationship is not allowed, if they act or call people by family names they still wont allow it. Does not make sense, but the whole situation does not make sense anyway.

As in, fuck it, its not real at all.

Also, im always thinking if a game can just switch out a regular name with a family description (mother/sister whatever) and not change anything else, its probably not the best writing, or fitting writing. So incest patches can add a whole lot more text, to make the game a incest game with proper writing in it.
 

LadyLilith-3D

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Couldn't you just get around this all by offering your game to download on another platform (your personal website for example). Then make sure anything you post on Patreon doesn't include incest. Or would Patreon go a step further and look at any external links and still shut you down because your getting money on their platform for something against their rules even though your not posting anything related to that content directly on their site?
 

woody554

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Rape and Pedophilia makes sense. But why ban incest?
It's not even harmful.
they just do, and that's all there is to it. doesn't matter if their definition makes sense, doesn't matter that it's fiction, they just just don't want to have anyone the chance of saying somewhere "patreon supports incest".

such is life.
 
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woody554

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Couldn't you just get around this all by offering your game to download on another platform (your personal website for example). Then make sure anything you post on Patreon doesn't include incest. Or would Patreon go a step further and look at any external links and still shut you down because your getting money on their platform for something against their rules even though your not posting anything related to that content directly on their site?
patreon bans you for 3rd party site offending content just as well.
 

JerHat

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So glad there's an easy way around it. Hopefully they don't start exercising and losing weight therefore gaining the energy needed to better enforce their rules by looking for and banning games that have workarounds or something.
 

fidless

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Couldn't you just get around this all by offering your game to download on another platform (your personal website for example). Then make sure anything you post on Patreon doesn't include incest. Or would Patreon go a step further and look at any external links and still shut you down because your getting money on their platform for something against their rules even though your not posting anything related to that content directly on their site?
Yes. They monitor creators activities on other platforms and you can get in trouble even for things not reliated to your game, for example like "liking" or commenting on loli stuff (as an example of what happened in the past to one of the devs).
They also monitor f95 as well. Game tagged with incest tag can get creator in trouble as well if the patch is provided by dev himself.
 

peterppp

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Game of Thrones has incest and was viewed by at least 19 million people (and probably viewed by Patreon staff too) -> no problem, it's entertainment.

Fictional adult game has incest and maybe played by maybe (guessing) 1000 people -> banned and we'll hunt you down offsite as well.
The incest in GoT is a plot thing in a story. Incest in adult games is about sex in a porn game.

You are vastly underestimating the audience of adult games. Only the least popular games would have only 1000 people playing them. For the bigger games, think millions.
 

The_Wombat

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There is another thing to it, but first I want to say, I am not defending Patreon here, just stating the facts. The reason behind such strict policy is pretty simple - money. They enforce such policies because they need to comply with payment operators and laws of fuckton of countries, because they operate worldwide.

This is the reason, they do not want to get in trouble with their business partners.

Also another thing is the popularity of creator. If you bring much money to the Patreon, they are more likely to let you bend the rules. If you are just starting, then they might ban you for no reason at all. Lately, one of the devs was banned from Patreon because they said his game had incest content. In reality the characters in question where landlady and her daughters if I remember correctly, and they banned him anyway, saying that - although they do not have family in name, the relationship in which they live is incestous in nature - because they live together etc. So, the more popular your content is the more you can get away with.
 
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The incest in GoT is a plot thing in a story. Incest in adult games is about sex in a porn game.
You're on the right track. Not defending Patreon but US Federal Obscenity guidelines define acts as offensive if a literary work revolves around said act (adult games) or if it is simply part of a much bigger narrative such as GoT. Distributing "obscene" material across state lines is a federal crime. Sadly we still live in a world where the majority is puritanical conservative.
 

fujikuro01

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Many of the games that get created by independent developers that have "taboo" content in them get their funding through patreon and in the past several years patreon has been putting the ban hammer on any account that produces games or stories with "taboo" content so the developers change their scripts and re work the relationships that the characters have. but they may release a "patch" via third party sites so that players that want to play the game with the story and or content presented as it was originally intended can download and install said patches