Why are so many games on this forum overrated?

LazerShark

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I just don't get it. I see those 5 or 4 stars games and I just don't understand how most users who play them give such a high rating.

One of the most popular game format in these forums is the visual novel. Then you play these games and the story sucks, the characters suck, and the whole writing sucks overall. "But it's porn, who cares about the story?" That's the kind response you get. Because it's a fucking visual novel, you dumbasses (I'm just trying to give some expression to the argument, I'm not that passionate about this issue), and if the story doesn't have any importance then a more suitable game format should be chosen. Also, if the story doesn't matter, why the fuck would the devs bother writing it? Most of the times it's just padding the game. If the game really needs a story for the scenes to have some meaning, then keep it short and simple so I don't have to read (skip through) thousands of lines of mental diarrhea just to get to the next scene. By that point I'd rather watch porn.

But there's another problem with those visual novels. Let's just pretend that it's porn and the story doesn't matter. Well, the renders suck. They do, they fucking suck. And this is not just for the visual novels, this applies to every fucking game in this site. Most 3d games on this site have shit renders. We're in 2020 and most of the renders look like they come from the mid 2000s (there were games back then with better renders), and in the worst cases, the late 90s. And that's just for the overall shape of the models and the backgrounds. Let's not talk about the genitalia which is what we're supposed to be looking at. Most pussies are literally textures placed into the models. This problem has a very simple cause. Most devs in here are using 3d modeling programs which were not designed to create porn - there are programs designed to create porn, and the devs just don't use them. And then there's another problem. A lot of models are recycled from other games with slight modifications (or for the male characters, none at all). How many times have I seen the same girl with a slightly different face? The same weird/punchable looking male characters? How many fucking times? Then there are the games that, for some reason, use a fucking filter on top of these renders making them look even worse. And how does the forum react to those shit renders? "5 stars, great renders". Every fucking game. Is it a shit game? "Even though the renders are awesome, ..." I'm trying to understand, what are your standards for quality? Why are they so low? What kind of porn do you watch, do you only have access to 144p videos or something? Genuine question. 3d is not the only problem though. There are also the 2d games which are a whole other issue altogether. I don't wanna get into it that much since those seem to be rated much more fairly (which means more harshly in this case), but they still have their problems. My biggest grip is with tracing. Why not just watch porn at that point? Or why not just use the references from which the scenes were traced? I think games that use real porn can be acceptable if supported by good writing, and by doing that you're ensuring better quality in the scenes department and you just have less work developing the game. But I don't wanna get into an argument about tracing. My argument here is that the art in most games posted in these forums is subpar, and I'm genuinely confused by the amount of users who think it looks good.

Ok, the visuals are not good, but they're easy to masturbate to. The thing that's easy to forget however, is that porn, and games because these are supposed to be games, are transmitted through an audiovisual medium. Audio is a very underrated and overlooked feature in these kinds of games, but dammit you already know my opinion, it sucks for most games in here. Voice acting is one of those things that enhances (most of) the games where it's implemented, but it's understandably too expensive for a lot of devs and it's not that necessary or important. Sound effects are important. Most games in here desperately need sound effects for sex scenes. Even a light background moan would go a long way in improving the power of a sex scene. It amazes me how many games have sound effects for the most trivial things but none for the sex scenes. Fortunately some games have sex scene sound effects and manage to implement them extremely well. The vast majority, however, manage to fuck it up. From low quality stock sound effects to unmixed sound effects in contrast to the music to extreme repetition of those said effects with no variation during long sex scenes. And it just decreases the quality of the already low quality scenes. Yet it's not rare for games like these to routinely get 5 stars. Sound effects are not the only problem though. There's also the music. Most of the games just use the generic music assets provided by the platform in which they are released. The problem with doing this is that the music is, of course, generic. It's also repetitive, from the fact that it's so often used in other games and also because the loops are often too short. Some devs go and get royalty-free music from other sources which is great, but most of them end up picking the already popular music from the same sources every other dev uses. It ends up being repetitive and tiring, hearing the same music in every porn game I download. It's not like the music is great or adds any value to the game anyway. Most of the times, the music feels like it comes from one of those corporate presentation videos, or from an elevator, or from a generic jrpg. These are supposed to be sex games, so why not use "sexy" music? There's so much royalty-free music out there that would be appropriate to use in porn games, and it feels like such a waste that most devs are not using it. But yeah, you go and see the reviews for those games with generic music, and there's quite a few "great music", compared to none (or maybe one, two) "music could use some work". It's really a shame.

But when all of the above fails, the only thing saving the game, and the most important aspect of the game, is the gameplay. Even for visual novels which can barely be considered games, the gameplay, or the interactivity, is important. There's not much to write about this. From all the games I've downloaded from this site, I can count by my fingers the ones which offered very good gameplay, and there are still very few that offer at least solid gameplay. I won't go into details because I don't need to. In general, games on this site are not enjoyable to play through, and normally the only thing that makes them worth it is the quality of the art (which is often bad), and following this idea, what is even the point of playing? If I'm here just to look at the scenes, why not watch porn, or even read a porn comic? I don't think it's fair for a game without satisfying gameplay to get 5 stars (I don't even think it's fair for it to get 4 stars). I just don't think it is, and I don't see why anyone would think otherwise. Yet those games constantly get 5 stars for "great renders" which normally are not even that good. It's extremely disappointing to download a game that seems good from reviews and then playing it just to despise it after under 1 hour of playtime, and it's also disappointing to see that the users on this site have such low standards and such a low bar for gameplay quality. It's frustrating to see that the porn game "industry" has so much potential, but due to the low standards of these forums (which are probably the most popular forums from where to discuss porn games), devs are just incentivized to put their shit on a platter, because there's always someone who will eat it, pay for it, and gladly recommend it to everyone else. It's sad to see that in the past 5 years, porn games have been mostly coming out in the same 2 tiring formats and engines (renpy and rpgm), with absolutely no advancement in their general boring formula. And what do these games get? That's right, 5 stars. Because we have no standards.

Anyway, I was getting a little off-topic. I hope you understand my point. The question is in the title really. I want to know why are there so many people quick to give 4 or 5 stars to games that clearly and absolutely don't deserve them.
 

DawnCry

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Will give a short answer to your question, if the game has the fetishes x player want and lacks the fetishes same player hates he will give 5 stars.

I mean, many that review just focus on how much their desires are being satisfied and not about the game itself.

Personally I like to focus on the game as a whole when I review and it's future potential. However I tend to avoid visual novels because it's harder for me to review, I mean, most visual novels just try to give place to the sex scenes.
 

おい!

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Mar 25, 2018
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I just don't get it. I see those 5 or 4 stars games and I just don't understand how most users who play them give such a high rating.

One of the most popular game format in these forums is the visual novel. Then you play these games and the story sucks, the characters suck, and the whole writing sucks overall. "But it's porn, who cares about the story?" That's the kind response you get. Because it's a fucking visual novel, you dumbasses (I'm just trying to give some expression to the argument, I'm not that passionate about this issue), and if the story doesn't have any importance then a more suitable game format should be chosen. Also, if the story doesn't matter, why the fuck would the devs bother writing it? Most of the times it's just padding the game. If the game really needs a story for the scenes to have some meaning, then keep it short and simple so I don't have to read (skip through) thousands of lines of mental diarrhea just to get to the next scene. By that point I'd rather watch porn.

But there's another problem with those visual novels. Let's just pretend that it's porn and the story doesn't matter. Well, the renders suck. They do, they fucking suck. And this is not just for the visual novels, this applies to every fucking game in this site. Most 3d games on this site have shit renders. We're in 2020 and most of the renders look like they come from the mid 2000s (there were games back then with better renders), and in the worst cases, the late 90s. And that's just for the overall shape of the models and the backgrounds. Let's not talk about the genitalia which is what we're supposed to be looking at. Most pussies are literally textures placed into the models. This problem has a very simple cause. Most devs in here are using 3d modeling programs which were not designed to create porn - there are programs designed to create porn, and the devs just don't use them. And then there's another problem. A lot of models are recycled from other games with slight modifications (or for the male characters, none at all). How many times have I seen the same girl with a slightly different face? The same weird/punchable looking male characters? How many fucking times? Then there are the games that, for some reason, use a fucking filter on top of these renders making them look even worse. And how does the forum react to those shit renders? "5 stars, great renders". Every fucking game. Is it a shit game? "Even though the renders are awesome, ..." I'm trying to understand, what are your standards for quality? Why are they so low? What kind of porn do you watch, do you only have access to 144p videos or something? Genuine question. 3d is not the only problem though. There are also the 2d games which are a whole other issue altogether. I don't wanna get into it that much since those seem to be rated much more fairly (which means more harshly in this case), but they still have their problems. My biggest grip is with tracing. Why not just watch porn at that point? Or why not just use the references from which the scenes were traced? I think games that use real porn can be acceptable if supported by good writing, and by doing that you're ensuring better quality in the scenes department and you just have less work developing the game. But I don't wanna get into an argument about tracing. My argument here is that the art in most games posted in these forums is subpar, and I'm genuinely confused by the amount of users who think it looks good.

Ok, the visuals are not good, but they're easy to masturbate to. The thing that's easy to forget however, is that porn, and games because these are supposed to be games, are transmitted through an audiovisual medium. Audio is a very underrated and overlooked feature in these kinds of games, but dammit you already know my opinion, it sucks for most games in here. Voice acting is one of those things that enhances (most of) the games where it's implemented, but it's understandably too expensive for a lot of devs and it's not that necessary or important. Sound effects are important. Most games in here desperately need sound effects for sex scenes. Even a light background moan would go a long way in improving the power of a sex scene. It amazes me how many games have sound effects for the most trivial things but none for the sex scenes. Fortunately some games have sex scene sound effects and manage to implement them extremely well. The vast majority, however, manage to fuck it up. From low quality stock sound effects to unmixed sound effects in contrast to the music to extreme repetition of those said effects with no variation during long sex scenes. And it just decreases the quality of the already low quality scenes. Yet it's not rare for games like these to routinely get 5 stars. Sound effects are not the only problem though. There's also the music. Most of the games just use the generic music assets provided by the platform in which they are released. The problem with doing this is that the music is, of course, generic. It's also repetitive, from the fact that it's so often used in other games and also because the loops are often too short. Some devs go and get royalty-free music from other sources which is great, but most of them end up picking the already popular music from the same sources every other dev uses. It ends up being repetitive and tiring, hearing the same music in every porn game I download. It's not like the music is great or adds any value to the game anyway. Most of the times, the music feels like it comes from one of those corporate presentation videos, or from an elevator, or from a generic jrpg. These are supposed to be sex games, so why not use "sexy" music? There's so much royalty-free music out there that would be appropriate to use in porn games, and it feels like such a waste that most devs are not using it. But yeah, you go and see the reviews for those games with generic music, and there's quite a few "great music", compared to none (or maybe one, two) "music could use some work". It's really a shame.

But when all of the above fails, the only thing saving the game, and the most important aspect of the game, is the gameplay. Even for visual novels which can barely be considered games, the gameplay, or the interactivity, is important. There's not much to write about this. From all the games I've downloaded from this site, I can count by my fingers the ones which offered very good gameplay, and there are still very few that offer at least solid gameplay. I won't go into details because I don't need to. In general, games on this site are not enjoyable to play through, and normally the only thing that makes them worth it is the quality of the art (which is often bad), and following this idea, what is even the point of playing? If I'm here just to look at the scenes, why not watch porn, or even read a porn comic? I don't think it's fair for a game without satisfying gameplay to get 5 stars (I don't even think it's fair for it to get 4 stars). I just don't think it is, and I don't see why anyone would think otherwise. Yet those games constantly get 5 stars for "great renders" which normally are not even that good. It's extremely disappointing to download a game that seems good from reviews and then playing it just to despise it after under 1 hour of playtime, and it's also disappointing to see that the users on this site have such low standards and such a low bar for gameplay quality. It's frustrating to see that the porn game "industry" has so much potential, but due to the low standards of these forums (which are probably the most popular forums from where to discuss porn games), devs are just incentivized to put their shit on a platter, because there's always someone who will eat it, pay for it, and gladly recommend it to everyone else. It's sad to see that in the past 5 years, porn games have been mostly coming out in the same 2 tiring formats and engines (renpy and rpgm), with absolutely no advancement in their general boring formula. And what do these games get? That's right, 5 stars. Because we have no standards.

Anyway, I was getting a little off-topic. I hope you understand my point. The question is in the title really. I want to know why are there so many people quick to give 4 or 5 stars to games that clearly and absolutely don't deserve them.
Please show us how it should be done, after all you seem to be an expert on the subject, so go ahead and create a great game with beautiful renders etc.... After all it has only taken you 8 months of free loading games to come to this decision, so you should be able to knock up a great game in no time. I eagerly await your great work, unless you just started this thread for
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Hadley

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I always remove at least one star from every rating. But if you sort by weighted rating most Games on the first Page are really good.
 

kytee

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10/10 fun read.

One thing you didn't mention is how people give so much merit to a game's "potential". I see a shit ton of "5/5 game is really short but has a lot of potential". In that case, you can just create a game with a shit ton of set ups for the future, but none of the satisfying executions or conclusions and the fools will still eat it right up. It's almost as if they rate the game based on their delusions about where the game might go in their heads.

On the visuals department, I don't feel as strongly as you do because visuals don't matter as much for me. I'd like for visuals to look good but the massive amount of time dev's spend trying to make good looking visuals is a problem that I can live without.

However, on the writing department, I strongly agree with you. In my opinion, nothing can carry a visual novel if the writing sucks, but the writing can carry any visual novel if the it's good. This is because good writing sets up emotional attachment to characters and situations, which is absolutely essential when it comes to sex. Without emotional attachment, the sex you experience in a visual novel will be no different than a porn video. Emotional attachment is why a girl would rather have sex with a man than her dildo, even though she knows how to fuck herself better than any guy will; It's why you'd still find a real girl to fuck even though you can jerk off to hundreds of thousands of girls online. But with terrible writing, there are no emotions; You're just being carried from one porn set to another by a string of words.

On the subject of writing, I feel like people have extremely low expectations because there hasn't been anyone who's been able to pull it off well. I've read some visual novels that others tout as having great writing, but they're only great in certain areas and their stories generally aren't too approachable or relatable to the general audience. It's the whole paradox of trying to tell a grand story when your premise is terrible.
 
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TLDR but I think people tend to write reviews on things they feel strongly about.

So most games I have reviewed, I gave 5 stars or 4 if it was good but still had a lot of potential for improvement.

If I play a game and find it meh, I'm not going to waste my time on it anymore and that includes (excludes?) bitching in the forums and writing meh reviews.

Only if a game is truly bad and/or the the description is way off, and I feel genuinely pissed off about having played the fucking thing, then maybe I write a 1 star review.

But of course your opinion may be very different from mine.
 

moskyx

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Let's be honest: if you want to rate them objectively and in absolute terms, most games in this site are shit. They can't compete with proper games created by professional studios. But that's to be expected when these games are made by amateurs devs working alone in their spare time, when they are just learning the ropes of posing and writting. So maybe it's a matter of expectatives and relative quality/worth. Within the available offer, you can fairly rate a game with 5 stars, even though those 5 stars don't really mean that game is a masterpiece.

Also, as it's been said, most ratings are based on pure fetish appealing. So don't take the star-rating system too seriously and maybe read the reasons given by reviewers to get a better idea of the game's quality. And if you still feel there's no game that catter your high demands, try to make one or just forget about this site and spend your time in more productive and satisfying ways for you. Like writting walls of text.
 

Sinaxxr

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I think you're not understanding just how hard it can be to make a decent porn game. There is a staggering amount of work involved in developing a game from start to finish. And if you want it to be an actually good game then that just means even more work for you to do. Now think about the human race. Most people just can't be fucking bothered to put in the effort. Which means the bar is set pretty low for most games and only the best manage to get something considered top tier. I think people see that and vote accordingly. Most people will have a short list of their favorite games and I doubt that list contains many "finished" products.
 

pharal

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I honestly do not understand what you are even doing here, if you find every single game so disgraceful?

A lot of why I come here and why I download games, are the fact that I can get something from them that otherwise only exist on text or not at all: a fantasy that can be experienced without harm to anyone.
I do think you are right that there is sometimes a misconception of porn games or fetish games not needing a "real" story. This exists in movies as well to a point where people fervently defend a lack of story and promote it as something good.

However there are many games on here where I find the story great and I actually get this desire fulfilled. The story can be crazy, it can be ridiculous, it can be a power fantasy, but that does not make a story bad. Sometimes even very short and simple stories can be what I am looking for and sometimes it can be a long and complex story with pages and pages of text.
Sure, there are many bad stories, but this is because they are not consistent or they are confusing and sometimes they are too similar to a point of laziness. This is to be expected because that is how all media is.

To conclude this: despite your long post, it is just made less valid because you only provide complaints. I did not see one example of anything you would actually like to see, only that every single aspect of all games suck.
If you would actually like to be taken seriously, then give some examples ffs.
Put in some links to examples you so obviously have of "good" renders.
Provide names of the applications that are supposedly out there that developers should use for these renders.
 

freedom.call

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I don't read reviews, I don't write reviews, I don't care what others think of a game (good or bad). I download games that seem like they could interest me, play them and I may write a post in the game thread.

I don't believe anyone else value my opinion over their own same as I don't with others. (y) No offense. :)
 

anne O'nymous

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I just don't get it. I see those 5 or 4 stars games and I just don't understand how most users who play them give such a high rating.
They are playing the game, enjoying it, and then give it a number of stars related to this enjoyment.

Of course, many games end overrated because of this, having average CG and/or average writing that don't worth their 4 or 5 stars. But to know this you need to have a good enough artistic knowledge and a good enough writing knowledge. And it happen that people who write reviews are normal people, with an average level of knowledge. For them, the quality is enough, and it's all that mater because they are the majority talking to the majority.
After all, it's a forum for perverts who want to play games made by perverts. So, not at all the place where you'll find review based on the effective quality of the "products".
 

HandofVecna

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Sep 4, 2018
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1. We all look forward to seeing your amazing high quality game when it is released! Seriously have at it!
2. The games here are literally free. Why are you complaining about free games. You paid nothing.
3. Most of these games are made by people who have real jobs in their spare time. Respect that many do this for fun not for profit really b/c most will never make a profit doing this.
4. Yes there are games I consider highly overrated here (Messiah Porn) but the majority of people love them. There are games I love that aren't as popular (False Hero, Renpy remake of Anne and Banking on Bella). Shrug...I like Star Trek and hate Star Wars, others reverse, so what?
5. Do yourself and the community a favor and just sing the praises of the games you do like. It makes everyone feel better including yourself.
 

HandofVecna

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Sep 4, 2018
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I honestly do not understand what you are even doing here, if you find every single game so disgraceful?

A lot of why I come here and why I download games, are the fact that I can get something from them that otherwise only exist on text or not at all: a fantasy that can be experienced without harm to anyone.
I do think you are right that there is sometimes a misconception of porn games or fetish games not needing a "real" story. This exists in movies as well to a point where people fervently defend a lack of story and promote it as something good.

However there are many games on here where I find the story great and I actually get this desire fulfilled. The story can be crazy, it can be ridiculous, it can be a power fantasy, but that does not make a story bad. Sometimes even very short and simple stories can be what I am looking for and sometimes it can be a long and complex story with pages and pages of text.
Sure, there are many bad stories, but this is because they are not consistent or they are confusing and sometimes they are too similar to a point of laziness. This is to be expected because that is how all media is.

To conclude this: despite your long post, it is just made less valid because you only provide complaints. I did not see one example of anything you would actually like to see, only that every single aspect of all games suck.
If you would actually like to be taken seriously, then give some examples ffs.
Put in some links to examples you so obviously have of "good" renders.
Provide names of the applications that are supposedly out there that developers should use for these renders.
Totally.

Having never picked up a paint brush it's like he is at a free museum and saying, "All the art sucks. Why do you all like this crap?!?"

I see posts like this about once a quarter, usually from a Newbie, and my response is always the same. We all look forward to your amazing high quality game. Seriously! Show all the Devs how its done. We all wish for your success.
 

DawnCry

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HandofVecna I have to ask, for you when can you do a critic about something?, I feel like you mixed toxicity and doing a critic. So wanted to give you the chance to explain a bit more so that I can understand you better. At the moment the message I'm getting from you is the following:

1º You can't critic, only praise games.

2º You can't do a critic if you can't make something better.

And I have to say, if those points are what you are saying I must say it is wrong on many different levels.
 
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pharal

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Totally.

Having never picked up a paint brush it's like he is at a free museum and saying, "All the art sucks. Why do you all like this crap?!?"

I see posts like this about once a quarter, usually from a Newbie, and my response is always the same. We all look forward to your amazing high quality game. Seriously! Show all the Devs how its done. We all wish for your success.
Normally I would say that even if you don't have any experience or education in whatever art form is on display, everyone has the right to critique it. However in this case it is just arrogant to come in and say "The creators of all the games suck. All of your tastes suck. The tools suck" and not provide anything. Personally I don't even need a game or something they made, but the least they could do was give examples.
 

HandofVecna

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HandofVecna I have to ask, for you when can you do a critic about something?, I feel like you mixed toxicity and doing a critic. So wanted to give you the chance to explain a bit more so that I can understand you better. At the moment the message I'm getting from you is the following:

1º You can't critic, only praise games.

2º You can't do a critic if you can't make something better.

And I have to say, if those points are what you are saying I must say it is wrong on many different levels.
1. One can critique whatever and whenever one wants. People can and should critique games but it is really bold to say they can do better and then not show us the work. SHOW US what better looks like. Teach us.
2. The impact of such critiques however is limited when one has never Dev a game. How much weight would any of us give to someone who showed up at our work and had never done our job? Said our work is shit and they have better tools to do the job? Yet they've never sat down and tried? They've no experience and they refuse to actually show us what they can do or how we can do it?
3. I would say don't tell us. SHOW US. It's not that the OP is only critiquing other reviewers he is literally telling everyone how he could do better. How he could do art better. How he could code better. How he could write stories and reviews better. Great!! Show us. I am nothing but encouraging. I look forward to playing this amazing game, truly. Win win as far as I'm concerned.
4. How should people feel about others who've never Dev a game and are new to the site telling everyone how to do Dev better and how to consume the games they play?

The OP is not about "Freedom" to critique nor is my response. It is about how they can do things better from reviewing games to Dev games. Cool. Show us. That my response. I will take this OP seriously when they show us all how its done the "right way".

The OP complains about music, stock royalty free music to be specific. Well that music is picked because it is FREE! These are not big studio productions. These are often one person shops with limited to NO budget. Do we know why we hear the same music over and over? yes, because its FREE! The same kind of FREE that the pirate uses to play games on here which then begets more free stock music. If he wants original music pay the Dev for it or make your own game and buy an original soundtrack. That would be awesome!

Again show us how's its done. Go out and get original music and soundtrack. Knock our socks off.

EDIT: Let's take Star Wars. The most recent film is garbage to me. I didn't like it and am happy to tell you I didn't like and all the reason why I didn't like it. Cool. But I won't tell you is how I could do it better. Because I can't. I'm not that f'n delusional. If I had made a movie in the past maybe I'd have a leg to stand on but I haven't and don't.
 
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DawnCry

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1. One can critique whatever and whenever one wants. People can and should critique games but it is really bold to say they can do better and then not show us the work. SHOW US what better looks like. Teach us.
2. The impact of such critiques however is limited when one has never Dev a game. How much weight would any of us give to someone who showed up at our work and had never done our job? Said our work is shit and they have better tools to do the job? Yet they've never sat down and tried? They've no experience and they refuse to actually show us what they can do or how we can do it?
3. I would say don't tell us. SHOW US. It's not that the OP is only critiquing other reviewers he is literally telling everyone how he could do better. How he could do art better. How he could code better. How he could write stories and reviews better. Great!! Show us. I am nothing but encouraging. I look forward to playing this amazing game, truly. Win win as far as I'm concerned.
4. How should people feel about others who've never Dev a game and are new to the site telling everyone how to do Dev better and how to consume the games they play?

The OP is not about "Freedom" to critique nor is my response. It is about how they can do things better from reviewing games to Dev games. Cool. Show us. That my response. I will take this OP seriously when they show us all how its done the "right way".

The OP complains about music, stock royalty free music to be specific. Well that music is picked because it is FREE! These are not big studio productions. These are often one person shops with limited to NO budget. Do we know why we hear the same music over and over? yes, because its FREE! The same kind of FREE that the pirate uses to play games on here which then begets more free stock music. If he wants original music pay the Dev for it or make your own game and buy an original soundtrack. That would be awesome!

Again show us how's its done. Go out and get original music and soundtrack. Knock our socks off.

EDIT: Let's take Star Wars. The most recent film is garbage to me. I didn't like it and am happy to tell you I didn't like and all the reason why I didn't like it. Cool. But I won't tell you is how I could do it better. Because I can't. I'm not that f'n delusional. If I had made a movie in the past maybe I'd have a leg to stand on but I haven't and don't.
You know that I only asked you to clarify those points because they were very absolute right?, I'm not the one that did the OP nor did I say anything related to almost everything you have written here.

And no, I'm not defending the OP, in fact I have yet to even read his opening message lol.

But well will comment on what I did say, you have said for example Star wars and how the most recent film was garbage for you, saying that has no value, but if you put attention you can say a lot of things without being an expert on film making, especially related to script mistakes, choreography of characters when you notice clear mistakes, you can even say if you found it slow in development or if it did mess up on something.

Obviously I can't literally tell "how it should be made", but I can point out mistakes and things I notice, even more in games the player's feedback it's really important, because it isn't a question of creating mechanics and mixing stuff up, but that as a result of it the game ends up being fun to play, you can work a lot on doing x mechanic and in the end have to take it out because it simply was annoying or useless.

But that's mostly it, for example I did a heavy review on Dinasty warriors 9 when it came out because it was a mess, badly implemented open world, battles becoming boring and without any type of rush, side activities that couldn't be worse...

I just asked you to clarify related to that, but well now I get that rather than the meaning I thought you have, it's just that you are kind of pissed at the op because it has the attitude of "I could do it better!" without doing anything.
 
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You know that I only asked you to clarify those points because they were very absolute right?, I'm not the one that did the OP nor did I say anything related to almost everything you have written here.

And no, I'm not defending the OP, in fact I have yet to even read his opening message lol.

But well will comment on what I did say, you have said for example Star wars and how the most recent film was garbage for you, saying that has no value, but if you put attention you can say a lot of things without being an expert on film making, especially related to script mistakes, choreography of characters when you notice clear mistakes, you can even say if you found it slow in development or if it did mess up on something.

Obviously I can't literally tell "how it should be made", but I can point out mistakes and things I notice, even more in games the player's feedback it's really important, because it isn't a question of creating mechanics and mixing stuff up, but that as a result of it the game ends up being fun to play, you can work a lot on doing x mechanic and in the end have to take it out because it simply was annoying or useless.

But that's mostly it, for example I did a heavy review on Dinasty warriors 9 when it came out because it was a mess, badly implemented open world, battles becoming boring and without any type of rush, side activities that couldn't be worse...

I just asked you to clarify related to that, but well now I get that rather than the meaning I thought you have, it's just that you are kind of pissed at the op because it has the attitude of "I could do it better!" without doing anything.
Sorry if I came across as a butt head. I think what you are saying is exactly right and we are even saying the same thing just differently.

Like Star Wars or any movie I think its fair to say the script is bad or dialog is weak etc. Or with regards to game saying hey Dev the dialog is stiff or that renders are grainy or posses are stiff etc. I just think it's a whole other level to say all that and then say I can do it better but not put my butt out there in the wind like the Dev did and get the criticism.
 
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