Why are so many people morally against hentai

[Artemissu]

People think H-games are for degenerates and the lowliest of scum. But a game like People Playground has a whopping 98% approval rating from 197,000+ Steam reviews alone. Mind you, a game literally about torturing people senselessly...

Going on a rampage in Grand Theft Auto, murdering more innocent civilians than the 9/11 planners could ever dream of is somehow a-okay, but me being a rapist scumbag in Two Horns is somehow bad?

Jizzing to a 2D woman is bad because "she's a bunch of pixels", but jizzing to a brutal kill in DOOM or Killing Floor 2 is somehow okay? Even if it's also just pixels?

Beating the crap out of people in Mortal Kombat and performing fatalities on them is cool, but performing a femtality on my opponent in The Queen of Fighters is somehow weird?

Why is violence good but sex bad?

Why is it that birds fly?

Discuss

 

[Thicc Lord]

Because society has created this stigma surrounding it. I think that it lessens with each passing year, but the media and governments want violence normalised.

Hentai however is often related to things like loli, shota, tentacles, rape etc.
That doesn’t exactly help the cause.

 

[Artemissu]

Hentai however is often related to things like loli, shota, tentacles, rape etc.
That doesn’t exactly help the cause.

But then you have things like People Playground however, a game that's literally a murder simulator, yet 198,000+ people apparently think it's the shit. But God forbid you publicly display your H-games on your Steam library, suddenly you're a degenerate.

I know that things like loli, shota, rape, etc. doesn't help our cause, it's true. But i also cannot help but thing there's some double-standards at play here

(Oh and yes, all my H-games on Steam library are public)

but the media and governments want violence normalised.

Hmm, that brings up another topic. Do you think it's kinda off that we relish on violent entertainment so much? Personally i think it's not as long as one knows to separate reality from fiction, but sometimes i can't help but wonder why we enjoy violence in our entertainment so much...

 

[Dessolos]

when it comes to games I have the same stance as I do with anime. It's just the art style im so used Daz 3D models that give somewhat a realistic feel that's it's hard to play something else doesnt mean I wont. but I find the hentai / anime art style harder to get into than honey select so I really need to be in the mood to branch out out of my preference.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Why is violence good but sex bad?

Because those people are a bunch of sexually repressed bigots highly unsure of their virility.

 

[Kamishirov]

People hate Hentai because it's art and you actually have to use your brain to fully enjoy it to it's fullest.

People who hate Hentai like a guttural tawdry visual show with no thought, they just want to hear women say "Yes" or "Yeah" or "Oh yah" repeatedly while an unattractive muscular American male spreads his asshole for the viewer's pleasure as he cums.

As for violence and sex maybe it comes down to our history of religious experience, we've had so many wars in the name of religion, the same religion that basically made sex not a natural thing that you should pursue but a repulsive sinful act.

In the East I'm guessing they didn't have the same experience with Hinduism, Buddhism and Tao, a few clashes with the Muslims and the Mongols (Whatever they were at the time where religion wasn't the motivating factor, Tengri?) but that's it. I don't know too much but I'm going to take the wild guess that they were simply more open to sex whereas violence was the sinful taboo which really it should be.

With both violence and sex though they'll always find a way even if in both spheres they're unacceptable to differing degrees.
Violence and sex are inescapable natural elements of human existence. Sucks that we got stuck with violence.

 

[tuvrelm11]

Not much to discuss, some "people" are really fucking stupid. Mental illness, psychological projection, low IQ, prejudice due to culture, religious indoctrination, a bad day/extreme stress - you name it.

Slaughter and torture entire cities for fun in Skyrim, and reload a savefile to do it again - mundane, trivial, who cares. Touch a woman's buttock in a fetish VN without it being clear about her consent - that's when the moral police put their collective foot down.

 

[Artemissu]

As for violence and sex maybe it comes down to our history of religious experience, we've had so many wars in the name of religion, the same religion that basically made sex not a natural thing that you should pursue but a repulsive sinful act.

Hmmm, this does put things in perspective. Most of the american population is catholic, right? And my country too. I guess that might explain it

Slaughter and torture entire cities for fun in Skyrim, and reload a savefile to do it again - mundane, trivial, who cares. Touch a woman's buttock in a fetish VN without it being clear about her consent - that's when the moral police put their collective foot down.

Your comment perfectly encapsulates what i think. Why is hentai so immoral, yet violence is completely a-okay and doesn't even have societal limits to it (unless it's a game like Hatred, that did garner some controvery back when it released. But it also quickly died down as well)

I know there isn't much to discuss, i was just really curious to know why people have such a strong instance against hentai (that and i was bored lol). But i guess we can just chalk it up to people being the moral police, as usual

 

[besre]

Morally against hentai or against publicly saying you're jacking off to X?

Because masturbation and sex are largely viewed as intimate things not to be shared publicly.

I don't want to know on what porn my friends beat their meat. Unrelated to the fact that drawn porn is more moral than actual porn.

 

[Artemissu]

Morally against hentai or against publicly saying you're jacking off to X?

Because masturbation and sex are largely viewed as intimate things not to be shared publicly.

I don't want to know on what porn my friends beat their meat. Unrelated to the fact that drawn porn is more moral than actual porn.

The former. I can see why people would find the lattter to be creepy, some things really are meant to be kept private... But i often come across people that just merely mention hentai in a conversation will get a harsh response from them. Like "hentai are for degenerates". The generalization, you know

 

[woody554]

are you seriously asking "why doesn't everybody like what I like?"

jesus christ.

 

[rangaru]

They probably have some expectation for men and don't want them to be lonely, obese porn addicts who never leave their homes and live in the dream world with imaginary waifu.

 

[Icarus Media]

are you seriously asking "why doesn't everybody like what I like?"

jesus christ.

Ironically the last two words you speak probably answer OP's question, at least in the western sphere.

 

[woody554]

Ironically the last two words you speak probably answer OP's question, at least in the western sphere.

I don't think there's any significant group of people who morally hate hentai or sex in general. maybe you can find born again christians or other crackpots, but even they're mostly lying about what they secretly like. just last week the fundamentalist boebert got caught jerking off her date in a theater, and just before that a gay-hating conservative representative got caught (again) fucking guys. it's the oldest story. they don't hate sex, they just pretend to because of cult peer pressure or political ambitions. we're all born with the human species sexual urges, and those genetic traits don't give a fuuuuck if our cult is outwardly against them.

once the lights go out they're all here with us. maybe we should have a poll asking if there's people here who IRL pretend to be moralists while secretly playing horse-fucking games on f95? might be interesting.

 

[Jack Madrigal]

People think H-games are for degenerates and the lowliest of scum. But a game like People Playground has a whopping 98% approval rating from 197,000+ Steam reviews alone. Mind you, a game literally about torturing people senselessly...

Going on a rampage in Grand Theft Auto, murdering more innocent civilians than the 9/11 planners could ever dream of is somehow a-okay, but me being a rapist scumbag in Two Horns is somehow bad?

Jizzing to a 2D woman is bad because "she's a bunch of pixels", but jizzing to a brutal kill in DOOM or Killing Floor 2 is somehow okay? Even if it's also just pixels?

Beating the crap out of people in Mortal Kombat and performing fatalities on them is cool, but performing a femtality on my opponent in The Queen of Fighters is somehow weird?

Why is violence good but sex bad?

Why is it that birds fly?

Discuss

which peoples ? you can't just put a sticker on something so vague and call it a general rule. only 65% of the total world population have somewhat access to the internet, there are some that live their entire existence without ever hearing about star wars or the lord of the rings. you have to know it exist to be able to hate it, in the first place.

what your post tell me is that you're projecting your own insecurities on a subject most mentally stable individuals would find trivial, and I'm sure you based that conclusion after a single encounter with one deranged person that had judgemental commentaries. some humans watch porn, some don't, most keep it to themselves and that's it, it's not a morale debate or an existential conundrum.

 

[disturb-o-matic]

Violence has less societal stigma than sex/porn does. Violence is very often a public display, whereas sex/porn is more often an indoor/private display. The societal expectation is that sexual things should be and stay hidden, whereas violence is all over our news and social media every day. We are conditioned to view violence more favorably despite our personal opinions about it.

Hentai has the added baggage of how it is perceived by the general population. Most people know about hentai, but their only exposure to it is the hardcore or weird parts of it, i.e. the tentacles, the r*pe, the incest, etc, that have reached the mainstream by memes & discussions.

 

[someyoungguy]

I don't think as many people are morally opposed to hentai as you presume. I think people generally are dismissive of hentai, more than anything. Probably 4 out of 5 people who are morally opposed to pornography on moral or religious grounds either don't consider hentai real porn, or it doesn't include the characteristics that they find objectionable in real porn, so it doesn't qualify for their disdain. There are some people who judge people who consume hentai, but that isn't an assessment of moral integrity as much as a character judgement. And that judgement is based on the assumption that people who consume hentai don't consume regular porn and therefore aren't interested in real humans sexually. That assumption is largely incorrect, but even when it's made, the judgement being made is that the person is pitiful rather than that they have questionable morals.

If you'd asked the question that seems to be at the root of the issue you seem to be trying to address, which seems like it could be why is violence glorified and sex demonised in so many cultures, you maybe could've generated an interesting discussion. Instead, you're going to get a split discussion where some are trying to answer what they perceive as the root of the question they think you're trying to ask and others are just pointing out that the question you've actually asked is based on faulty assumptions. That's already happened in the thread. Another way your framing fragments discussion is that your framing of the question requires a degree of interpretation to figure out what point you're really trying to get to with the question you're posing. That leads to respondents essentially responding to related but ultimately different questions, which means there can be little to no meaningful conversation between them, since few if any of them are really talking about the same thing. This, also, has already happened in the thread. What you're left with is a doubly jumbled mess that isn't helpful for anyone involved, which will only get worse as the thread continues and probably start arguments rather than lead to discussion.

 

[nulnil]

Violence is just more socially acceptable.