Why Put So Much Time Into Bad Lewd Games?

[whiskeyrose]

Earlier this week I re-downloaded

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for probably the 3rd time. Since then I've put about 8 hours into the game so far and eventually found myself at that post-fap shame stage of lewd game playing. For all intensive purposes Son of a Bitch is a terrible game. It's nothing against those putting time into translating and supporting it, but just fundamentally as a game it is not good.

• It's machine translated, with dialog and options making very little sense as to whats occurring in-game.
• Even if you could understand the plot (or read Russian) it wouldn't matter because the plot is shit. Every single plot path with each character is more or less "sexually harass/bribe a woman until she fucks you."
• Despite being a free-roam game, most heroines have a singular path to follow. If they have multiple paths it's usually a split between the normal sexually harass into love route or the outright rape them route.
• The Slavic grind in the game is insane, plot paths involve meeting characters at undisclosed locations at specific times several times over in order to progress in a path. The game rarely gives you a hint that an action is progressing a path.
• The game is neigh unplayable without walkthroughs and cheats enabled.

And yet with all of these things, as soon as I post this thread I'm going to load the fucking game up again to put a couple hours into a few heroine's paths before bed. There are AAA games I've paid a decent amount of money for that I haven't put half the time into as much as this glorified Russian .wmv viewer. In fact most lewd games available, even the more polished ones are in general bad games. If the content wasn't pornographic then I wouldn't spend the bandwidth to even pirate them.

I personally think such leeway is given because we I am such an addict to porn, especially of anything that pertains to our my fetish. I will trudge through the most broken russian questsoftplayer game for hours to see the broken dialog text-line that I knocked my grand-aunt up. I will drag through hours of a shitty sexual harassment Japanese RPGmaker game just to see an ending card where the MC is pregnant for half a second. Doing this mind you, while over half the games I impulse purchased from the last steam sale remain untouched.

I'd love to hear community feedback on these thoughts. Why do you think bad games get so much leeway? Or am I just being a bitch?

P.S. I want to be up front that I don't think the projects I've created here are examples of 'good' games, I don't want anyone to take me that way either.

 

[215303j]

What I like in these games in general is the ability to influence the storyline, as well as having some visual stimulation besides the storyline. Hopefully the storyline will be decent and the visuals as well. The alternatives, erotic literature and porn movies, have their own drawbacks, which can be similar to what you describe.

Why do we have a tolerance for "bad" games? I think because, even though there may be some aspects of a certain game we don't like, there are also still some things that are good enough to keep playing such a game.

 

[kaiten]

We tolerate bad games because there are oh so few good ones that hit our kinks exactly and those that do we play until they're not stimulating anymore. So we play the not so good ones in the hope of squeezing the same enjoyment from them.
Although there are bazillions of new games nowadays, there's really not much choice. Most of them are as vanilla as it gets, and those that cater to fetishes are either only about that fetish or have 1-2 scenes in it pertaining to the fetish just so they can get the tag.
If you're jaded with vanilla porn and vanilla incest you don't have much choice nowadays.

 

[W65]

I spend uncounted (and frankly shameful) hours on those Japanese emuera games, most of which are grindy as hell in addition to being anywhere from partially to mostly untranslated.

For me, it ends up being a matter of curiosity, since you usually slowly unlock or open up options as you play around with stuff. I guess the porn parts help smooth the grind over a bit. Look at their Princess Maker knockoff: you don't even see most of the daily education activities until you pass a different arbitrary stat value for each one.

I don't really want to dismiss them as bad games, since they're just SLGs and those guys have REALLY pushed that limited-ass engine to its limits (seriously, at least one game has a roguelike built into it). I guess the key phrase there is "just SLGs" since I don't think I'd tolerate that kind of behavior from any other genre, or frankly from a game that wasn't at least lewd. After all, I'm the one who decides to keep spending time on them--it's not like anything ties me to them, except maybe abstract appreciation of the horrible spaghetti code beautiful messes that are those games. Seriously, it's like each one is a haunting, grotesque trainwreck... and you can explore the trainwreck looking for naked survivors and cocaine.

 

[Agent HK47]

I personally think such leeway is given because we I am such an addict to porn, especially of anything that pertains to our my fetish. I will trudge through the most broken russian questsoftplayer game for hours to see the broken dialog text-line that I knocked my grand-aunt up. I will drag through hours of a shitty sexual harassment Japanese RPGmaker game just to see an ending card where the MC is pregnant for half a second. Doing this mind you, while over half the games I impulse purchased from the last steam sale remain untouched.

I feel you on this one. Sometimes I will play shitty game, over really good ones, simply because they cater to certain fetishes, which most of the "mainstream" games won't touch.

 

[Flecc]

!st off dont put yourself down i have played Breeders Haven and it was a fun little game game as you could pick play it for an hour or 2 to pass time i kept going back to try and beat the challenges and of course you had Dakota in their that's worth coming back for you kept it simple take on girls to fill stats knock em up and get paid for doing it wonderfully simple and addictive

Any how back on topic

Why do we keep going back to bad games.Because their are so many out their. I'm not a dev myself but i can see in a lot of games it makes perfect sense to the dev but not the audience, so many times you are sitting their scratching your head thinking what the hell do i do next so you end the game ,But you log back on the next day to have another go as human nature dictates to you their must be a solution.

However over recent times we have had games coming through that are player friendly with good stories good renders and plenty of faping material so hopefully our days of having to play terrible games to get our fix are becoming numbered

 

[whiskeyrose]

!st off dont put yourself down i have played Breeders Haven and it was a fun little game game as you could pick play it for an hour or 2 to pass time i kept going back to try and beat the challenges and of course you had Dakota in their that's worth coming back for you kept it simple take on girls to fill stats knock em up and get paid for doing it wonderfully simple and addictive

However over recent times we have had games coming through that are player friendly with good stories good renders and plenty of faping material so hopefully our days of having to play terrible games to get our fix are becoming numbered

You're sure you're not just being nice because I've monkeyed around with a few ideas in my spare time?

And you do find diamonds in the sea of rough we have here. Wife Trainer, Peasants quest among others would pass as at least games.

 

[redknight00]

Parts of desperations and lack of better alternative, there are not that many good games to keep up with one's sexual appetite, so they must drop the bar to subpar games and even trash. Especially when it comes to certain fetishes, it's either rare to find some and people will play whatever games they find or people who just care about the fetish and will play anything with it even if there are plenty of others.

Also, bear in mind that every game is someone's first and with no basis to compare it's easy to think it's the best thing since Riley Reid decided to do porn. Even I (and probably everyone) have games on my watchlist that I know are not good, but have been following for a while and keep to do so.

 

[Adabelitoo]

It's been a while since I last played it but my favorite and somehow most recurrent bad game is Corruption, by Mr. C.

I don't know why I enjoy it so much. It's generic as fuck, it's machine translated (at best), the plot is bad and most of the time isn't even explained, it's super easy to break the secuence of the game so you have to figure it out in what order things happened.

My favorite genre is incest, but I have 826 games in this forum to choose so it's not like I'm just taking what I found. I'm not a super fan of corruption games either. I really don't know I like it so much. I think it's a terrible game, but I'm gonna download the last update anyway.

 

[Callowayaway]

The Slavic grind in the game is insane, plot paths involve meeting characters at undisclosed locations at specific times several times over in order to progress in a path. The game rarely gives you a hint that an action is progressing a path.

I have noticed that Russian games often tend to have grindy bits inserted into them that serve no purpose other than to waste your time.

Wands and Witches is my most recent run in with this phenomena. So much time wasted, so little payoff.

 

[khumak]

I think when you're playing a game you feel like you're more in control of what's happening in the story so it's easier to feel like it's happening to you rather than you just being a spectator. Also specifically for the real porn games, many of them use some of my favorite pornstars so they get some extra leeway when that happens. Son of a Bitch uses Kourtney Kane for one of it's characters for example so bonus points for that.

I also think real porn games get a bit of a pass on story because unlike a game that uses renders, if you make a real porn game you have to twist your story into knots trying to make it conform to whatever real porn video clips you've managed to scrounge up. You can't design a coherent story and then just fill it in with renders customized to the story.

I think VR games get the kid glove treatment from a lot of people for similar reasons. I'm completely unimpressed with all of the VR I've seen so far but I could definitely see the appeal for something like porn or adult games. VR also still has an issue with motion sickness for a lot of people that I don't think they've really found a solution for yet.

Having played SOB before I will have to say that it's grindy enough that I just can't get myself to do it. I flailed away at it for awhile and eventually just looked through the image/video folders and watched some of those outside of the game. Machine translated games in particular I have a hard time getting into. The translation too frequently winds up as meaningless gibberish.

 

[anne O'nymous]

It's been a while since I last played it but my favorite and somehow most recurrent bad game is Corruption, by Mr. C.

Simply because, like Thialf implied a year ago, it's pure porn on which we have control.
It have a semblance of history, but not too much and not a too complicated one. So we don't need to think, and we can put our on fantasy on top of it without problems. And like it's not really complicated (nor long with the right mod), it's a kind of "build your own porn movie" games.

[...] it's machine translated (at best)

No, just wrote by someone really bad with English.

 

[kosmos]

Honestly anyone looking for a sex game isn't really looking for a real game so most are just porn delivery systems with a splash of story. Most people are just looking to scratch a fetishized itch.