EdGuy69

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Decided to check how this game and its thread is doing:
> game is still nowhere close to being finished
> hakarlman is still getting heat for writing facts and ofcourse the legendary pong
Idk what I expected :LOL:
But hold on guys, never lose hope! I'm sure game will be great when finished, just give devs a few centuries and more of that green stuff :LUL:
I fail to understand why some people here actually try to have discussions with thick skulled specimens like yourself. Y'all crack me tf up. Keep sprinkling the salt, I guess :KEK:
 

Purple_Heart

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I fail to understand why some people here actually try to have discussions with thick skulled specimens like yourself. Y'all crack me tf up. Keep sprinkling the salt, I guess :KEK:
I'm salty because a game I didn't pay for is still not finished after god knows how many years of being in development?
That doesn't even make any sense but whatever helps you sleep at night, totally not triggered person.
 

Levy88

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But hold on guys, never lose hope! I'm sure game will be great when finished, just give devs a few centuries and more of that green stuff :LUL:
In my opinion the game is already kinda great, we have tools to make our own worlds and more animations and settings to work with than any other game out there.

My takeaway from the majority of most complaints in this thread is people simply don't know how much time and effort goes into a game of this scale. Then we factor in how small their team is and some expect a triple A style game to be out in a few years when it usually takes that long for a team of 100+ developers and millions of dollars from actual triple A studios.

But it's understandable as most people in the world lack critical thought and even more have the patience of an infant.

We can look at this dude who started with one other person years ago and actually put the money back into what they're doing and now run their own studio of people. Then you look at someone like Eromancer who hasn't finished a game in probably ever and moves title to title with pure oynx being their latest waste of time where it has taken them around 2-3 years to make 6-7 animations and 3ish mediocre levels with nearly every system still incomplete.

Studiofow is another great example, they got tons of crowd funding and even now all these years later, they still hardly have a game with mechanics and features that I would consider entry level skill for making. Then you look at their animations and see just how little effort they actually put in when you use an unlocker and see the horror show that the fixed camera angle cannot see. The only upside is the silly comedic value the story brings as everything else is incredibly subpar.

Even if wildlife team decided to not bother with the story, the game would still be a huge success for sandbox standards and it only gets better with each content update.
 

HardcoreCuddler

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Decided to check how this game and its thread is doing:
> game is still nowhere close to being finished
> hakarlman is still getting heat for writing facts and ofcourse the legendary pong
Idk what I expected :LOL:
But hold on guys, never lose hope! I'm sure game will be great when finished, just give devs a few centuries and more of that green stuff :LUL:
sure it's not finished, but out of all the devs in this dumbass industry, AdeptusSteve and his team are actually working instead of slacking off, among others
 

Purple_Heart

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In my opinion the game is already kinda great, we have tools to make our own worlds and more animations and settings to work with than any other game out there.

My takeaway from the majority of most complaints in this thread is people simply don't know how much time and effort goes into a game of this scale. Then we factor in how small their team is and some expect a triple A style game to be out in a few years when it usually takes that long for a team of 100+ developers and millions of dollars from actual triple A studios.

But it's understandable as most people in the world lack critical thought and even more have the patience of an infant.

We can look at this dude who started with one other person years ago and actually put the money back into what they're doing and now run their own studio of people. Then you look at someone like Eromancer who hasn't finished a game in probably ever and moves title to title with pure oynx being their latest waste of time where it has taken them around 2-3 years to make 6-7 animations and 3ish mediocre levels with nearly every system still incomplete.

Studiofow is another great example, they got tons of crowd funding and even now all these years later, they still hardly have a game with mechanics and features that I would consider entry level skill for making. Then you look at their animations and see just how little effort they actually put in when you use an unlocker and see the horror show that the fixed camera angle cannot see. The only upside is the silly comedic value the story brings as everything else is incredibly subpar.

Even if wildlife team decided to not bother with the story, the game would still be a huge success for sandbox standards and it only gets better with each content update.
The problem is, you are specifically looking at the worst examples to justify why this game is still so unfinished af. You look at pure onyx, eromancer and studiofow.
But there are also a lot of hit indie games that are completed with a lower budget, smaller team and in a less timeframe.
Once, I've even made a list of games, and how long it took for devs to complete them just to prove how wrong this argument is, and the best reply I've gotten from this thread was, "I-Irrelevant list!!!". That list included all kinds of developers, from solo and tiny dev teams to AAA studios. Some had literally no budget(no patreon, no ea, nothing!) while some had to rewrite the fucking engine they use while game was still in development. But all the games on that list had something in common: they get completed waaaay before compared to this game's progress.

And you're assuming I don't know how long it takes to make a game. I'm not a developer but I don't need to be a developer to understand how long it might take. I can simply take a look at the games on steam and research how long it took for developers to complete it. Judging by the information I've gathered by using that method plus years of following gaming industry(I'm talking about pc and console, if it wasn't obvious), I came to this conclusion:
Games that go past 4 years of development time are usually either a "patreon porn game" kind or "cyberpunk 2077" kind of game. But ofcourse there are some exceptions to this rule, like rockstar's rdr2 but they are just that, exceptions.

Normal games go on steam and ea route if their devs want to earn money during development, because they know damn well their game in its current state is interesting enough to sell. Meanwhile "patreon porn game" kind developers stick to patreon, and they stay that way usually for several years because they know damn well their "game" will get review bombed to hell(if they put it on ea steam) for not even being a "game" or a decent one for that matter.

"Even if wildlife team decided to not bother with the story, the game would still be a huge success for sandbox standards and it only gets better with each content update."
I think you're heavily exaggrating this, I don't think majority of the people would even bother playing a sandbox porn game.
Let's be real, why do you think majority of people even play porn games? You have 3 answers, pick which is most logical to you.
A) To fap and feel good
B) To be creative
C) To play pong in it

If your answer is B or C, you're high.
If your answer is A, think for a second why would anyone bother playing a sandbox game where you have to work and even sometimes write code to create scenes when they can just play any other game that doesn't require so much work to get the scene they want?

sure it's not finished, but out of all the devs in this dumbass industry, AdeptusSteve and his team are actually working instead of slacking off, among others
Recently they are releasing updates faster than before or atleast it feels like that way to me, I won't deny that.
My point is this game should've been completed waaaaay before.
We should have a completed game, and they should be releasing dlc's right about now.
But instead all we have is sandbox and pretty much nothing else.
 
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Taku46

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The problem is, you are specifically looking at the worst examples to justify why this game is still so unfinished af. You look at pure onyx, eromancer and studiofow.
But there are also a lot of hit indie games that are completed with a lower budget, smaller team and in a less timeframe.
Once, I've even made a list of games, and how long it took for devs to complete them just to prove how wrong this argument is, and the best reply I've gotten from this thread was, "I-Irrelevant list!!!". That list included all kinds of developers, from solo and tiny dev teams to AAA studios. Some had literally no budget(no patreon, no ea, nothing!) while some had to rewrite the fucking engine they use while game was still in development. But all the games on that list had something in common: they get completed waaaay before compared to this game's progress.

And you're assuming I don't know how long it takes to make a game. I'm not a developer but I don't need to be a developer to understand how long it might take. I can simply take a look at the games on steam and research how long it took for developers to complete it. Judging by the information I've gathered by using that method plus years of following gaming industry(I'm talking about pc and console, if it wasn't obvious), I came to this conclusion:
Games that go past 4 years of development time are usually either a "patreon porn game" kind or "cyberpunk 2077" kind of game. But ofcourse there are some exceptions to this rule, like rockstar's rdr2 but they are just that, exceptions.

Normal games go on steam and ea route if their devs want to earn money during development, because they know damn well their game in its current state is interesting enough to sell. Meanwhile "patreon porn game" kind developers stick to patreon, and they stay that way usually for several years because they know damn well their "game" will get review bombed to hell(if they put it on ea steam) for not even being a "game" or a decent one for that matter.

"Even if wildlife team decided to not bother with the story, the game would still be a huge success for sandbox standards and it only gets better with each content update."
I think you're heavily exaggrating this, I don't think majority of the people would even bother playing a sandbox porn game.
Let's be real, why do you think majority of people even play porn games? You have 3 answers, pick which is most logical to you.
A) To fap and feel good
B) To be creative
C) To play pong in it

If your answer is B or C, you're high.
If your answer is A, think for a second why would anyone bother playing a sandbox game where you have to work and even sometimes write code to create scenes when they can just play any other game that doesn't require so much work to get the scene they want?


Recently they are releasing updates faster than before or atleast it feels like that way to me, I won't deny that.
My point is this game should've been completed waaaaay before.
We should have a completed game, and they should be releasing dlc's right about now.
But instead all we have is sandbox and pretty much nothing else.

Actually curious to check out your list of high quality finished H games that had a reasonable development cycle. 3D wise, I can't think of anything outside of Japan.
 

soulsacrifice

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And you're assuming I don't know how long it takes to make a game. I'm not a developer [...]
Exactly. And yet you go :

And you're assuming I don't know how long it takes to make a game. I'm not a developer but I don't need to be a developer to understand how long it might take. I can simply take a look at the games on steam and research how long it took for developers to complete it. Judging by the information I've gathered by using that method plus years of following gaming industry(I'm talking about pc and console, if it wasn't obvious), I came to this conclusion:
Games that go past 4 years of development time are usually either a "patreon porn game" kind or "cyberpunk 2077" kind of game. But ofcourse there are some exceptions to this rule, like rockstar's rdr2 but they are just that, exceptions.
You aren't a game dev to understand how long it takes to make a game of this scale with a small studio like this. There is a lot of things that need to be done and comparing a game like Assassins Creed that is made by a team of 1000+ people being made in 2 years where one artist could eventually end up doing exactly one game model for the entirity of the development to a game where a bunch of people try to make a highly complex game with features that aren't represent in other games isn't really a good way of doing things. It's like comparing The Northman with a Marvel movie. You aren't doing yourself any favor by spouting this nonsense. Some critique might be justified but your explanation for it is just nonsense and you might want to just step back and rethink your logic for a second.
 

FATA27

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Hey, there's any content about ponyplay or human pony?
This game won't have pony or any other "feral" content, as it's not permitted by Patreon. In fact, while AdeptusSteve is releasing new variations and animations for each skeleton already in the game, he doesn't plan on releasing any new skeletons, meaning that the porn side of the game is basically feature complete at this point. You get what you see, which is human on human, human on anthro, and anthro on anthro, with a small amount of futa and ugly bastard sprinkled in.

The vast majority of the developer's resources are now being spent making the actual game, which is going to be a third person action rpg with sex minigames.
 

Taku46

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This game won't have pony or any other "feral" content, as it's not permitted by Patreon. In fact, while AdeptusSteve is releasing new variations and animations for each skeleton already in the game, he doesn't plan on releasing any new skeletons, meaning that the porn side of the game is basically feature complete at this point. You get what you see, which is human on human, human on anthro, and anthro on anthro.
Wonder if at the very least there will be combat defeat or domination sex mechanics down the line?
 

FATA27

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Wonder if at the very least there will be combat defeat or domination sex mechanics down the line?
AdeptusSteve himself has said earlier in this thread that all sex is planned to be consensual because of Patreon ToS and his personal vision for the game. No forced sex mechanics like modded Skyrim.

Side note, the rules behind crowdfunding websites basically make the development of bestiality or forced sex games impossible. Even Adventures of Kincaid, a sidescrolling furry game built around forced sex encounters, was recently changed to make the sex consensual, presumably because of vendor issues.
 
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This game won't have pony or any other "feral" content, as it's not permitted by Patreon. In fact, while AdeptusSteve is releasing new variations and animations for each skeleton already in the game, he doesn't plan on releasing any new skeletons, meaning that the porn side of the game is basically feature complete at this point. You get what you see, which is human on human, human on anthro, and anthro on anthro, with a small amount of futa and ugly bastard sprinkled in.

The vast majority of the developer's resources are now being spent making the actual game, which is going to be a third person action rpg with sex minigames.
I dont think he meant that in a beastiallity kind of way. "Ponyplay" is also stuff from BDSM, where someone is dressed up as a pony.

Hey, there's any content about ponyplay or human pony?
If you mean the BDSM stuff, then no there is not.
 

Purple_Heart

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There is a lot of things that need to be done and comparing a game like Assassins Creed that is made by a team of 1000+ people being made in 2 years
So according to you, following games are very small scale so they are extremely easy to make(to the point they absolutely can't be compared to wild life:ROFLMAO:) and also made by team of 1000+ people in 2 years with AAA budget:
  • Risk of Rain 2
  • Hades
  • Ring of Pain
  • Art of Rally
  • Othercide
  • Enter the Gungeon
  • Hollow Knight
  • Rogue Legacy 1 & 2
  • Wizard of Legend
  • Darkest Dungeon
  • Undertale
  • SUPERHOT
  • The Messenger

Am I missing some crucial information about porn games that somehow makes them two or three times harder to make than a normal game? If so, please enlighten me if you know it so well to the point you find yourself eligible for defending a game that takes too long to be completed by devs ;)

You aren't a game dev to understand how long it takes to make a game of this scale with a small studio like this.
I can understand how long it takes to make a game "with this scale" the same way I can understand, learn and write programs without necesserily becoming a professional developer. Besides programming, I also happen to know a few basic things about animation.

Actually curious to check out your list of high quality finished H games that had a reasonable development cycle. 3D wise, I can't think of anything outside of Japan.
I don't check the dev cycles of every game I play and even if I did, not all developers share the time they spent developing their games. The ones I found however(not h or AAA games) indicate this game and a few other games I follow on f95zone should've been completed already.
 

Taku46

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So according to you, following games are very small scale so they are extremely easy to make(to the point they absolutely can't be compared to wild life:ROFLMAO:) and also made by team of 1000+ people in 2 years with AAA budget:
  • Risk of Rain 2
  • Hades
  • Ring of Pain
  • Art of Rally
  • Othercide
  • Enter the Gungeon
  • Hollow Knight
  • Rogue Legacy 1 & 2
  • Wizard of Legend
  • Darkest Dungeon
  • Undertale
  • SUPERHOT
  • The Messenger

Am I missing some crucial information about porn games that somehow makes them two or three times harder to make than a normal game? If so, please enlighten me if you know it so well to the point you find yourself eligible for defending a game that takes too long to be completed by devs ;)


I can understand how long it takes to make a game "with this scale" the same way I can understand, learn and write programs without necesserily becoming a professional developer. Besides programming, I also happen to know a few basic things about animation.


I don't check the dev cycles of every game I play and even if I did, not all developers share the time they spent developing their games. The ones I found however(not h or AAA games) indicate this game and a few other games I follow on f95zone should've been completed already.
I get the feeling you aren't actually familiar with many good H games to share a good list of. That's a shame, you spoke like an authority on the subject and I would of liked to try out some good H titles. That being said, I dont think a list of decent western 3d H games even Exists.

I agree that the H game scene is in an infuriatingly incompetent state. The key issue you likely have overlooked about H games is that they are nowhere near as commercially viable as normal games. Most talented devs would just work on vanilla games that are far likelier to earn them success and sales. Those who are left over to do H games are subpar often money grubbing hacks with those who are genuinely passionate about creating erotic games being rare.
 

Purple_Heart

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I get the feeling you aren't actually familiar with many good H games to share a good list of. That's a shame, you spoke like an authority on the subject and I would of liked to try out some good H titles. That being said, I dont think a list of decent western 3d H games even Exists.
I have a few h games that I find better compared to others but I don't know how long it took for devs to make them, so I think they aren't relevant to the discussion, that's why I didn't write them. But if you still want to know, here you go(in no particular order):
  • The Fairy Tale of Holy Knight Ricca
  • ErisDysnomia
  • Monster Girl Club Bifrost
  • Last Evil
  • Goblin Burrow: I'll Borne
  • Seed of the Dead 2
  • Magical Girl Celesphonia
  • CUSTOM ORDER MAID 3D2
  • Koikatsu(and other illusion games)
I agree that the H game scene is in an infuriatingly incompetent state. The key issue you likely have overlooked about H games is that they are nowhere near as commercially viable as normal games. Most talented devs would just work on vanilla games that are far likelier to earn them success and sales. Those who are left over to do H games are subpar often money grubbing hacks with those who are genuinely passionate about creating erotic games being rare.
I'm inclined to believe wild life devs aren't hacks but they probably have no plans(or had no plans in the beginning) about the future of this game. Otherwise this game would've been completed already. But to be honest, I only look at the results and I think everyone should do too, because they(and I) are potential customers and we have no obligation to learn "how to develop a game" just to understand the hardships devs may or may not have gone through. I am a simple man, if I see a game being developed for more than 4 years and its still not even close to being finished, I see it as a huge redflag and assume its gonna be very bad. It is usually a signal of either bad management, scam, or simply incompetent devs. All of those are basically same to me because end result is the same: a bad game. Exceptions exist but they are called exceptions for a reason. Anyway, I am done writing about this, I'll check this thread again in a few months, lets see if devs can turn this into an actual game by that time :unsure:
 

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AdeptusSteve himself has said earlier in this thread that all sex is planned to be consensual because of Patreon ToS and his personal vision for the game. No forced sex mechanics like modded Skyrim.

Side note, the rules behind crowdfunding websites basically make the development of bestiality or forced sex games impossible. Even Adventures of Kincaid, a sidescrolling furry game built around forced sex encounters, was recently changed to make the sex consensual, presumably because of vendor issues.
You mean like im games such as Tales of Androgyny instead? I wouldnt say modded Skyrim is a good example since moda are always something you can add or remove so making it personally consensual. Different is a case like ToA in which by booting the game itself youre already exposed to be raped....
 
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