Unreal Engine Wild Life [v2025-02-20 - Full Shipping Build] [Adeptus Steve]

[SortaLewd]

I think scam is generally the wrong word, and people know it so they try to wiggle in and like to pretend they're smart when they pivot their own empty counter-argument on bad word choice(cough @adamrekkler cough).

The games are actual products with real teams and real development. They are just exploiting their fandom and hype maliciously and by intent through the means in which they are going through production.

Looking at both Wild Life and Star Citizen, there isn't a single case where I personally felt exploited in anyway. These games offered something I thought was interesting and so I play them.

I've said it a billion times already now, but I don't care if it's your money to do whatever with or if you somehow think you're a genius because you spent $300+ 'supporting' a game that's going to be $10 if it ever even releases that has spent 3 times as long in development and earned 10 times the budget of indie masterpieces like Terraria, Stardew Valley, Lethal League, Hollow Knight, all with a larger team in most cases, just to release at best a mediocre game. You're still being exploited and used like the sheep you are, and there's a reason why people intervene in unhealthy stockholme syndrome toxic relationships like this.

This is something you see especially with Star Citizen and surprisingly quite a bit here in this Wild Life thread. People that like to make victims out of a game's supporters. I'll never understand this take or why it's hard to accept the fact that people just enjoy the game without having been preyed on by developers. If you think (x) game is mediocre that's cool, but that does not mean people are somehow mentally stunted to where they can't use their better judgement to see whether developers are trying to take advantage of them, they simply like the game. Being an armchair Doctor/Psychologist diagnosing people with x,y,z won't change that no matter how strongly you feel on the subject.

Also annoys me that people act as if these games wouldn't exist without them (the sheer arrogance...) when 99% of the games in existence today, ero or otherwise, exist without exploitive crowdfunding.

Following the game and liking the idea or whatever incomplete chunklet is there is utterly irrelevant. 90% of the reason why it's even a problem is BECAUSE developers are holding something interesting ransom and forcing you to pay monthly if you don't want to see the puppy drown.

What do you think is being held ransom by developers of WL and Star Citizen?

Just to make it clear: Even if games like Star Citizen release and even if they are good, they will never, EVER, justify the exploitive things they've done to get there nor the people they leave behind as victims who aren't even socially intelligence enough to understand they're victims.
THAT is why people hate them.

This kind of take reads to me as, "I'm right and even if I'm wrong, I'm still right". Regardless of what a game does, people that view games with this mentality will always find issue with something, nothing will satisfy them. It reminds me of the situation with Cyberpunk. Everyone knows Cyberpunk had a rocky launch, and despite the game improving over the years you still have people swearing it's a horrible game and making callbacks to its launch to justify the hate. Nothing the developers do will ever make these people happy. It was interesting seeing how the overall outlook on Cyberpunk changed around the time Phantom Liberty dropped and all the comparisons between it and Starfield started happening as people began playing it themselves and discovering Cyberpunk is actually a good game rather than believing opinions from people that will never be happy.

I believe Squadron 42 and Star Citizen will be the same case.

You mentioned how you hate how some people believe they're geniuses for supporting (x), but have you considered the reverse with people taking annoyance by those acting like they're smarter for choosing not to support? The idea that people who willing choose to support these games are victims is already demeaning and downplaying their intelligence. It's hypocritical. I do think there are issues with SC and definitely some things that can be seen as exploitive - the ship paints for example, although you can buy them in-game with in-game currency, they have shown off a more player controlled system years ago, but instead we still get sold basic ship paints for stupid prices - these kinds of things are called out repeatedly by the same community you're painting as victims. The same community that's being painted as victims are the same people to call out CIG and flood the forums with nothing but criticism when something iffy happens.

People just enjoy these games, people want to see them succeed. That doesn't make them blind to issues, that doesn't mean they have stockholm syndrome, it doesn't mean they suffer from sunk cost fallacy, it doesn't mean any of the things people try to prescribe. That could be the case for some people, but not the majority of the playerbases. Be realistic.

 

[Purple_Heart]

The idea that people who willing choose to support these games are victims is already demeaning and downplaying their intelligence. It's hypocritical.

No, they really have low intelligence and self control, so I don't think it is hypocritical.

I do think there are issues with SC and definitely some things that can be seen as exploitive - the ship paints for example, although you can buy them in-game with in-game currency, they have shown off a more player controlled system years ago, but instead we still get sold basic ship paints for stupid prices - these kinds of things are called out repeatedly by the same community you're painting as victims.

These "victims" then proceed to buy those paints as if that's what a normal person would do. Oh by the way this behavior is not exclusive to SC suckers. We see the same behavior with basically any multiplayer game that has microtransactions. Some are even based around exploiting people to their (wallet's)limit.

The same community that's being painted as victims are the same people to call out CIG and flood the forums with nothing but criticism when something iffy happens.

The same community also makes youtube videos about how awesome SC is one day after "flooding the forums with criticism".

People just enjoy these games, people want to see them succeed. That doesn't make them blind to issues, that doesn't mean they have stockholm syndrome, it doesn't mean they have sunk cost fallacy, it doesn't mean any of the things people try to prescribe.

It literally means those; these people really do lack self control and are not intelligent enough to research and find how they are being exploited.

That could be the case for some people, but not the majority of the playerbase. Be realistic.

Some people? Lmao, you have no idea what you are talking about. There is an entire gaming genre that revolves around exploiting people to the limit and it is called "gacha". Guess what happens with the "community" in these games? They are literally exactly same as those SC suckers you are describing. They too flood forums with "criticism" but they also buy every new "waifu" that comes out, instantly.

 

[Wlms]

I'm right and even if I'm wrong, I'm still right

Hey ! That's me!!
I'm always right !!!


/s

 

[Gùsepp]

Ok where is lala ? pls not clear " No Car "

 

[Gùsepp]

Whoa, this quests --'

 

[ThatOneGuyDownHere]

I'm kind of tired of listening to this thread go in circles with "scam this" and "scam that" and move the topic to something cool like RANKING ALL THE GOATMEN-SKELETON CHARACTERS IN THE GAME IN TERMS OF WHO'D YOU DATE

ANCIENT ONE IS NUMBER ONE FOR ME
DJABLO IS NUMBER TWO FOR ME
THAT DOCTOR GUY IS NUMBER THREE FOR ME
THE RATTY RAT IS NUMBER FOUR FOR ME
PIGGY OINK OINKER IS NUMBER FIVE FOR ME

 

[Asura066]

I'm kind of tired of listening to this thread go in circles with "scam this" and "scam that" and move the topic to something cool like RANKING ALL THE GOATMEN-SKELETON CHARACTERS IN THE GAME IN TERMS OF WHO'D YOU DATE

ANCIENT ONE IS NUMBER ONE FOR ME
DJABLO IS NUMBER TWO FOR ME
THAT DOCTOR GUY IS NUMBER THREE FOR ME
THE RATTY RAT IS NUMBER FOUR FOR ME
PIGGY OINK OINKER IS NUMBER FIVE FOR ME

Most of the characters have the same animation. There is no new animation. Its a copy and paste

 

[Creativemind]

Does this game have any system requirements??

 

[SortaLewd]

Does this game have any system requirements??

Not sure about hardware, but IIRC Windows 10 or 11 is required the run the game.

 

[Magister Masquerade]

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Not going to waste my time addressing most of your post since it's basically a long-winded "nuh uh, I'm no victim, I'd definitely know it if I were" as you sit there shuffling nervously with a black eye.

But I did want to come in here and stare in utter disbelief at your 'be realistic' glib. I am beyond realistic, you're the one living a literal delusion lmao. If you're confused as to why people are raising their eyebrows at people like you, then you either didn't read my post or let your brain shelter you from the hard truth.

Either way, I do fully admit my complaining is ultimately pointless, because I don't think people like you can ever be helped without serious regulation changes, same for gacha games and similar predatory practices in the gaming industry... But I'm tired of people saying variations of "it's not a big deal" only to watch a dude on stream slowly realize he spent $15k USD for a statistically different weapon that looks the same as the basic one for a game that will eventually shut down and start crying, right there, on stream. Even if that's not you, you're enabling people like that and just don't seem to care. In my eyes, that makes you just as bad as the soulless corps doing all these predatory practices.

Some people really need a firm helping hand, personally I think it should be to slap them across the face instead of hold them back at the chest, but hey, whatever.

Just don't blame me for shaking my head at your back and wondering where the people who care about you are in your life to teach you better. Or that these developers lack any sense of morality, or, at the very best, reasonable amounts of competence.

 

[Creativemind]

Not sure about hardware, but IIRC Windows 10 or 11 is required the run the game.

I am not sure why but it slow in my system. I can play GTA 5 smoothly bytheway. Is there a solution??

 

[SortaLewd]

I am not sure why but it slow in my system. I can play GTA 5 smoothly bytheway. Is there a solution??

This game could still use some optimization so it might not be an issue with your PC and could just be the game itself. What are your specs and what resolution and settings are you running?

 

[SortaLewd]

Not going to waste my time addressing most of your post since it's basically a long-winded "nuh uh, I'm no victim, I'd definitely know it if I were" as you sit there shuffling nervously with a black eye.

But I did want to come in here and stare in utter disbelief at your 'be realistic' glib. I am beyond realistic, you're the one living a literal delusion lmao. If you're confused as to why people are raising their eyebrows at people like you, then you either didn't read my post or let your brain shelter you from the hard truth.

This is just a whole lot of, "I'm right and you're wrong". You form your opinions and pass them off as fact then when faced with a counterargument you go, "well you're just too far gone/blind to see what I'm talking about!" . You're free to believe what you want, but as much as you hate it people will still enjoy the games they enjoy and life will continue.

Either way, I do fully admit my complaining is ultimately pointless, because I don't think people like you can ever be helped without serious regulation changes, same for gacha games and similar predatory practices in the gaming industry... But I'm tired of people saying variations of "it's not a big deal" only to watch a dude on stream slowly realize he spent $15k USD for a statistically different weapon that looks the same as the basic one for a game that will eventually shut down and start crying, right there, on stream. Even if that's not you, you're enabling people like that and just don't seem to care. In my eyes, that makes you just as bad as the soulless corps doing all these predatory practices.

Some people really need a firm helping hand, personally I think it should be to slap them across the face instead of hold them back at the chest, but hey, whatever.

Just don't blame me for shaking my head at your back and wondering where the people who care about you are in your life to teach you better. Or that these developers lack any sense of morality, or, at the very best, reasonable amounts of competence.

The amount of projection and assumption in this blurb is crazy.

Your whole argument that I'm some kind of victim for enjoying the game goes out the window considering I bought the game when I was a HS student back in 2016~ and haven't spent any money on it since, yet I've still enjoyed the game over the years. That's 9 years on and off of playing and getting more than my moneys worth, but yeah sure, my life sure is in shambles and the people around me definitely are wondering where everything went wrong /s

In the meantime I'll continue playing the games I want to play and you can keep telling me and others how we're victims and being preyed on by x,y,z developers. I'm sure with you being so much smarter than everyone else , your message will eventually get through.

 

[Malchain]

"I can't go to bed yet honey, there are still people in the furry porn game thread who are wrong!"

 

[Creativemind]

This game could still use some optimization so it might not be an issue with your PC and could just be the game itself. What are your specs and what resolution and settings are you running?

8gb ram, 512GB SSD, AMD RYZEN 5, no gpu

 

[SortaLewd]

8gb ram, 512GB SSD, AMD RYZEN 5, no gpu

No GPU is likely the issue, 8gb of ram might be too low too.

 

[Levy88]

"I can't go to bed yet honey, there are still people in the furry porn game thread who are wrong!"

Gonna be a bold assumption any of these handful of people in here arguing to argue are in a relationship. They're pretty insufferable on a message board, I can't imagine anyone trapped with them nearly 24/7 would want to live for very long. But they do love making people out to be victims, so that might just be a power move.

For a handful of people who think its a "scam" or "don't care" about the game, they sure do a ton of caring by being here on and off multiple times a week to pick fights about the state of the game. Sounds like someone who is pretty invested and cares to me.

 

[Wlms]

"I can't go to bed yet honey, there are still people in the furry porn game thread who are wrong!"

Going to bed is a skill issue anyway.

Feeling tired?
I've got exactly what you need ! Behold :

Gonna be a bold assumption any of these handful of people in here arguing to argue are in a relationship. They're pretty insufferable on a message board, I can't imagine anyone trapped with them nearly 24/7 would want to live for very long. But they do love making people out to be victims, so that might just be a power move.

For a handful of people who think its a "scam" or "don't care" about the game, they sure do a ton of caring by being here on and off multiple times a week to pick fights about the state of the game. Sounds like someone who is pretty invested and cares to me.

I'm in a pretty solid and good relationship, but thanks for your concern.
I surely argue an behave differently with my SO and with randos on a pirate forum dedicated to porn games.


A bit like you, I hope, as you're here LARPing as a skilled psychologist capable of analyzing people minds through posts on said forum

 

[Purple_Heart]

Gonna be a bold assumption any of these handful of people in here arguing to argue are in a relationship. They're pretty insufferable on a message board, I can't imagine anyone trapped with them nearly 24/7 would want to live for very long. But they do love making people out to be victims, so that might just be a power move.

For a handful of people who think its a "scam" or "don't care" about the game, they sure do a ton of caring by being here on and off multiple times a week to pick fights about the state of the game. Sounds like someone who is pretty invested and cares to me.

I care in the sense that I want a good game but people like you think this is a good game while it is absolutely not even close to being a game, let alone being a good one at that. Not to mention people actively defending a scam unfortunately hurts the whole gaming industry for everyone, not just themselves.

Also, I am not going to let some fanboys change the literal definition of a game just because they have a "sandbox" fetish. Delusional people can feel free to fuck off into a discord server where they can feel safe in their echo chamber.

 

[AdeptusSteve]

move the topic to something cool like RANKING ALL THE GOATMEN-SKELETON CHARACTERS IN THE GAME IN TERMS OF WHO'D YOU DATE

ANCIENT ONE IS NUMBER ONE FOR ME
DJABLO IS NUMBER TWO FOR ME
THAT DOCTOR GUY IS NUMBER THREE FOR ME
THE RATTY RAT IS NUMBER FOUR FOR ME
PIGGY OINK OINKER IS NUMBER FIVE FOR ME

Now THATS a topic I can get behind.
Personally the piggy dudes really started to grow on me-ermm I mean Maya. So they are my new number one..

Most of the characters have the same animation. There is no new animation. Its a copy and paste

Also on the topic of copy+paste I wanna share with you an industry secret that no dev has ever told you because it would show you how scammy and cheaparsed we are. But you didnt hear this from me... here it comes:

The way I make new characters of the same skeletal base is indeed copy paste. Look!
I know yea they look a bit samey but heck, it took a whole 2 clicks to make, can you blame me?