Seeking Winning over a strong heroine/s through corruption

[shubb]

Usually a lot of Combat/rpg games, they play with a strong female MC that get weakened the more you lose, becoming more and more an uphill battle. I get why these games are popular and appeal to a masochist side, but they feel a tad counterintuitive to me. You need to lose to get the fun stuff, which is frankly, the reason people play these in general. But it baffles me, how little in the other side there is, when the strong female MC, is not the protagonist, but the adversary to beat.

News Desk [v1.04] [Pyorgara] (The most straightforward and the best example of what I am looking for. In the beginning, your rival is unbeatable and kicks your ass. But the more your corrupt her, the more easier the battle becomes. And corruption affects different aspects, instead of being one single smashed Corruption stat.)
Corrupted Saviors [Release 66] [CSDev] (Not only you get stronger the more you corrupt heroines squads, they self-sabotage themselves even more. Complex, maybe too complex, system. But at least better than one single purple bar and bunch of "previous experience" numbers. Just wish was less simulator, and had original and well-tought heroines with their art, rather than random AI procedural heroines)
Yamizome Revenger [Final] [Escu:de] (Well, less corrupt to weaken heroine, and more like corrupt to get stronger, but I will take it as the options are scarce)
Yamizome Liberator [Final] [Escu:de] (Direct sequel, so same as above)
Overwhored [Final] [Cypress Zeta] (Same as above... Did I tell you about how scarce options are?)
Star Knightess Aura [v1.1.1] [aura-dev](Didn´t know if even to put this one in this list, but taking account you play as both heroine, which starts insanely OP, and the corruptor making decisions, with a complex corruption system, is one of the most similar examples I can find, though it ends more in balancing both aspects, to survive further in the game. Very good Corruption game overall.)

Point is, a lot of times, the flow of the game feels awkard. Is a "Oopsie daisy, I played very shitty against this boss, so now I am going to get some fun time" or "I totally should do this job at the brothel, even I know is an horrible decision while I am under this curse of lust" Karryn's Prison [v1.3.0.108 FULL + DLCs] [Remtairy] does a good job, of being balanced that this shitty options become less an intentionally missplay, and more slips under your best gameplay, (Time is running out, and you are too weakened for battling today. So why not take that pub job, and gain some extra money, to avoid bankraptucy?) but in the end, you feel you are not progressing, the contrary, become stuck in a constant loop of failures, which for someone seeking to play a masochistic heroine, is fine, but as player is frustrating, at least at me, which I never ended the game fully, even I agree is one of the best corruption/battle-fuck games out there.

From my point of side, I think it would be more fun the reverse, as if I am the overlord of a dungeon or another evil boss with minions and traps, waiting for the heroine/s to arrive, or a evil superhero, fighting against a magical girl/s, and I am against a race against the clock (She/they will reach the core of my dungeon, and kill me, or they will find my lair and destroy my resources and last safe spot to retreat), and I know I don´t stand a chance, so the only option is to weaken them, the heroines in the dungeon get splashes with slime pheromones while fighting against them augmenting their libido, they get cursed items that transform their armor +infinity in slutty bikinis that offer almost no protection, the magical girl stars losing the admiration of fans, not only weakening her, but adding angry mobs each encounter, or she gets more ditzy and dirty-mouthed, unable to cast spells while saying very awkard things, heck, you could even disguise as an ally, and make it an "anti-trainer", where she/they believe are being helped, but you are training/mind-controlling to do even worse next time you fight them. There a lot of potential ideas, and this would not only make corruption makes sense, as you the evil MC, are trying to gain leverage against the hero that you alone couldn´t even land a hit, but reward the player with a complex gameplay, as you strategizy, which debuffs in what order are the best to obtain your sweet final victory.

But no, instead we have a lot of rpgmakers games, lazyly following the same formula and rpg gameplay mechanics, and putting as corruption system a very obvious slutty heart marker at the dark alleyway in the red brothel, which I as the player knows the pure heroine is only going there, because I want to see the fun CGs and lead straight away to the bad end, to later do a very boring, prude, annoying run and (if I am lucky) maybe satisfying ending to the heroine story.

Well, this has become a very long post for a "seeking" post in a porn forum, and at this point I don´t know if I am trying to convince corruption hentai game developers to be more innovative with their mechanics than making the same rpg maker game over and over with a corruption meter and some funny numbers, or convince myself to finally start learning to draw naughty bits and do my own Dungeon Keeper or Trillion: God of Destruction with blacjack and hookers in my own little free time.

...So anyway, any reccomendations for games winning battles against strong heroines using corruption?

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

You've got some of the best ones already, but here's a little-known one that fits nicely: https://f95zone.to/threads/venus-blood-chimera-ninetail-dual-tail.11015/
A very rapey, very tentacley trainer where you corrupt 3 captured heroines againt the clock. Surprisingly well-written and localized. The other games in the series might also work (albeit with less focus on a few characters in favor of many), but they're too daunting even for me to get into.

Now since you liked News Desk, definitely look at Pyorgara's other games too. And this here is an exquisite bitch-trainer and one of the best ero-games I've played.

 

[shubb]

I heard about Venus Blood, but it kinda slip on me as it looked very strategy focused game. Maybe I will take a look at it though.

Thank you, Goblin!

 

[HeelsMaiden]

From my point of side, I think it would be more fun the reverse, as if I am the overlord of a dungeon or another evil boss with minions and traps, waiting for the heroine/s to arrive, or a evil superhero, fighting against a magical girl/s, and I am against a race against the clock (She/they will reach the core of my dungeon, and kill me, or they will find my lair and destroy my resources and last safe spot to retreat), and I know I don´t stand a chance, so the only option is to weaken them, the heroines in the dungeon get splashes with slime pheromones while fighting against them augmenting their libido, they get cursed items that transform their armor +infinity in slutty bikinis that offer almost no protection, the magical girl stars losing the admiration of fans, not only weakening her, but adding angry mobs each encounter, or she gets more ditzy and dirty-mouthed, unable to cast spells while saying very awkard things, heck, you could even disguise as an ally, and make it an "anti-trainer", where she/they believe are being helped, but you are training/mind-controlling to do even worse next time you fight them. There a lot of potential ideas, and this would not only make corruption makes sense, as you the evil MC, are trying to gain leverage against the hero that you alone couldn´t even land a hit, but reward the player with a complex gameplay, as you strategizy, which debuffs in what order are the best to obtain your sweet final victory.

https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...e-erotic-trap-lab-rj01399860-wereship.261484/
If you don't mind MTL translated RPGM game, then this short game fulfills many aspects that you wished. You play as a new researcher for an evil corp conducting evil experiments in secret labs. Unfortunately, the titular Agent Aqua is on her way to your very lab to arrest you. You come up with a desperate last-minute plan to use the monsters and experiments being developed at the lab to stall Agent Aqua until you and the other staffs can evacuate to another facility. And at the start, stalling for time is all you can do as the traps and monsters you have are mere annoyance for Agent Aqua. As time progresses, you are able to develop more powerful traps and monsters that could easily overpower and/or corrupt Agent Aqua. That's the basic gameplay loop but the problem is that this is in the end a short game that is too easy to finish. The concept is very hot and refreshing but I wish that it can be developed further into a more complex and longer game. One thing I wish is for Agent Aqua to fight back harder after your traps and monsters manage to inflict significant damage to her just like in News Desk. Maybe she would train harder so she starts with higher health next time or maybe she would upgrade her suit so it will be more resistant to damage and not be ripped off so easily anymore. Still a very refreshing and entertaining game for me though.

 

[crnisl]

From my point of side, I think it would be more fun the reverse, as if I am the overlord of a dungeon or another evil boss with minions and traps, waiting for the heroine/s to arrive, or a evil superhero, fighting against a magical girl/s

What about Something Unlimited ? Though the writing is not as good/hot as if in Insight of You or games of Pyorgara. And the gameplay about protecting the base / capturing the heroines is too small and simple part of the game.

 

[shubb]

https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...e-erotic-trap-lab-rj01399860-wereship.261484/
If you don't mind MTL translated RPGM game, then this short game fulfills many aspects that you wished. You play as a new researcher for an evil corp conducting evil experiments in secret labs. Unfortunately, the titular Agent Aqua is on her way to your very lab to arrest you. You come up with a desperate last-minute plan to use the monsters and experiments being developed at the lab to stall Agent Aqua until you and the other staffs can evacuate to another facility. And at the start, stalling for time is all you can do as the traps and monsters you have are mere annoyance for Agent Aqua. As time progresses, you are able to develop more powerful traps and monsters that could easily overpower and/or corrupt Agent Aqua. That's the basic gameplay loop but the problem is that this is in the end a short game that is too easy to finish. The concept is very hot and refreshing but I wish that it can be developed further into a more complex and longer game. One thing I wish is for Agent Aqua to fight back harder after your traps and monsters manage to inflict significant damage to her just like in News Desk. Maybe she would train harder so she starts with higher health next time or maybe she would upgrade her suit so it will be more resistant to damage and not be ripped off so easily anymore. Still a very refreshing and entertaining game for me though.

Oh hey! This looks interesting! Will try to give it a try. Thanks a lot!

 

[shubb]

What about Something Unlimited ? Though the writing is not as good/hot as if in Insight of You or games of Pyorgara. And the gameplay about protecting the base / capturing the heroines is too small and simple part of the game.

I played "Something Unlimited", and I liked its vibes, but as you say, it fails to be deep, and goes for Wide.

If Something Unlimited focused on a few heroines and had a better gameplay flow, specifically in corrupting/training them, and then fighting them, the game would fit my liking.

But instead, it's a grind/CG collector, no stakes raised, just how many clicks until next corruption/chick. I still enjoy its striptease scenes at strip clubs and outfit changes, but it's something I would prefer to read, rather than play.

 

[HeelsMaiden]

I remember that Remtairy once mused/rambled about making a "mirror" Karryn's Prison roguelite where you instead play as the prisoners against Karryn. I wonder whether it's still something he's going to do.

 

[shubb]

Last time I checked, Rem ditched his ramblings, and focused on helping Sachinama making his game.

That said, so far game concept of current game they are working looks fun, being a card battler where your outfit makes de the deck, which I think is a fun idea.

I like corruption games where you unlock more and more skimpier oufits, that and the added mechanics to such outfits so they are more than a cosmetic option, sounds something I would want to play.

Once Sakura Gonzen is out and I played it, maybe I should make a thread reccomending corruption games with heavy focus on outfits.

 

[HeelsMaiden]

Last time I checked, Rem ditched his ramblings, and focused on helping Sachinama making his game.

That said, so far game concept looks fun, being a card battler where your outfit makes de the deck, which I think is a fun idea.

That does sound like a fun concept. Shame it got ditched.

 

[tanjiro1]

Usually a lot of Combat/rpg games, they play with a strong female MC that get weakened the more you lose, becoming more and more an uphill battle. I get why these games are popular and appeal to a masochist side, but they feel a tad counterintuitive to me. You need to lose to get the fun stuff, which is frankly, the reason people play these in general. But it baffles me, how little in the other side there is, when the strong female MC, is not the protagonist, but the adversary to beat.

News Desk [v1.04] [Pyorgara] (The most straightforward and the best example of what I am looking for. In the beginning, your rival is unbeatable and kicks your ass. But the more your corrupt her, the more easier the battle becomes. And corruption affects different aspects, instead of being one single smashed Corruption stat.)
Corrupted Saviors [Release 66] [CSDev] (Not only you get stronger the more you corrupt heroines squads, they self-sabotage themselves even more. Complex, maybe too complex, system. But at least better than one single purple bar and bunch of "previous experience" numbers. Just wish was less simulator, and had original and well-tought heroines with their art, rather than random AI procedural heroines)
Yamizome Revenger [Final] [Escu:de] (Well, less corrupt to weaken heroine, and more like corrupt to get stronger, but I will take it as the options are scarce)
Yamizome Liberator [Final] [Escu:de] (Direct sequel, so same as above)
Overwhored [Final] [Cypress Zeta] (Same as above... Did I tell you about how scarce options are?)
Star Knightess Aura [v1.1.1] [aura-dev](Didn´t know if even to put this one in this list, but taking account you play as both heroine, which starts insanely OP, and the corruptor making decisions, with a complex corruption system, is one of the most similar examples I can find, though it ends more in balancing both aspects, to survive further in the game. Very good Corruption game overall.)

Point is, a lot of times, the flow of the game feels awkard. Is a "Oopsie daisy, I played very shitty against this boss, so now I am going to get some fun time" or "I totally should do this job at the brothel, even I know is an horrible decision while I am under this curse of lust" Karryn's Prison [v1.3.0.108 FULL + DLCs] [Remtairy] does a good job, of being balanced that this shitty options become less an intentionally missplay, and more slips under your best gameplay, (Time is running out, and you are too weakened for battling today. So why not take that pub job, and gain some extra money, to avoid bankraptucy?) but in the end, you feel you are not progressing, the contrary, become stuck in a constant loop of failures, which for someone seeking to play a masochistic heroine, is fine, but as player is frustrating, at least at me, which I never ended the game fully, even I agree is one of the best corruption/battle-fuck games out there.

From my point of side, I think it would be more fun the reverse, as if I am the overlord of a dungeon or another evil boss with minions and traps, waiting for the heroine/s to arrive, or a evil superhero, fighting against a magical girl/s, and I am against a race against the clock (She/they will reach the core of my dungeon, and kill me, or they will find my lair and destroy my resources and last safe spot to retreat), and I know I don´t stand a chance, so the only option is to weaken them, the heroines in the dungeon get splashes with slime pheromones while fighting against them augmenting their libido, they get cursed items that transform their armor +infinity in slutty bikinis that offer almost no protection, the magical girl stars losing the admiration of fans, not only weakening her, but adding angry mobs each encounter, or she gets more ditzy and dirty-mouthed, unable to cast spells while saying very awkard things, heck, you could even disguise as an ally, and make it an "anti-trainer", where she/they believe are being helped, but you are training/mind-controlling to do even worse next time you fight them. There a lot of potential ideas, and this would not only make corruption makes sense, as you the evil MC, are trying to gain leverage against the hero that you alone couldn´t even land a hit, but reward the player with a complex gameplay, as you strategizy, which debuffs in what order are the best to obtain your sweet final victory.

But no, instead we have a lot of rpgmakers games, lazyly following the same formula and rpg gameplay mechanics, and putting as corruption system a very obvious slutty heart marker at the dark alleyway in the red brothel, which I as the player knows the pure heroine is only going there, because I want to see the fun CGs and lead straight away to the bad end, to later do a very boring, prude, annoying run and (if I am lucky) maybe satisfying ending to the heroine story.

Well, this has become a very long post for a "seeking" post in a porn forum, and at this point I don´t know if I am trying to convince corruption hentai game developers to be more innovative with their mechanics than making the same rpg maker game over and over with a corruption meter and some funny numbers, or convince myself to finally start learning to draw naughty bits and do my own Dungeon Keeper or Trillion: God of Destruction with blacjack and hookers in my own little free time.

...So anyway, any reccomendations for games winning battles against strong heroines using corruption?

Have you found any other games that fit what you're looking for? I've been wanting games that fit almost exactly what you like. Where you play against or alongside a heroine that you corrupt. I really enjoyed News Desk off of your recommendation and liked a few games like Goons Raid Her, iNSight of You, and Holy Knight Luviria which may fit your niche.

 

[shubb]

Not really, but I heard AuraDev is working on a new game:

Liora's Price of Dignity