VN - Ren'Py - Completed - With Rain Comes the Flood [v1.0] [Stiffman Productions]

Really wish yuri / lesbian stuff did better sex bits... I wanted and debated too give this 3 stars for this reason as it the average bait of it going to be good and then nothing in any way really.
It does clearly look better then a lot and attempts some things, but honestly just tired of lesbian + yuri either looking very bad and or bad story and or having a major lack in sex (with only a couple that I also don't like where your a sex addict female and that bad story imo).
*note* I do not count any form of male made into female as a lesbian/yuri.

Credit for trying but why not try harder... or least add more sex.

I really thought for a while when I started playing this that I'd stumbled upon a hidden gem.

There is a lot to like about this game. In fact it does a number of things better than far bigger reputation games.

There's beautifcul characters, sexy clothing, teasing angles, tension building situations but then you get to the lewd scenes and they are... just weirdly short.
Like you'll build up to these hot tense scenes raring to go and then after a few poses it's just over and then you're somewhere else fully clothed.
Its really jarring and totally takes you out of immersion and leaves you unsatisfied.

It's a shame because there really is something special here unfortunately stifled by poor transitions and unsatisfying payoffs.
Could and should've been 4 star+

I can't wait for more games like this one
Finally milfs x younger girls are so really fucking amazing haha
Quality is fine, and dialogues are also pretty fine so really nice and keep it up bro I really like new things (I played in all games on f95 already) XD

If you like lezcest and want a game you can fap to, grab this game and it won't disappoint. The mom is hot, the daughter is adorable in that 18-but-looks-16 kind of way, and the sexy content comes early and often. The whole first 30 minutes of the game is basically an extended session of M/D petting with some meal breaks.

If you're looking for anything more than porn, this game is not for you. It's barely more than a slideshow-- few if any choices, a bad UI, etc. The English is understandable but awkward in a "translated by someone who is not quite fluent" kind of way. The build up is barely more than an announcement of intentions, the plot barely exists yet is somehow still a mess, and the character development is inconsistent. BUT--- that being said I’ve already cum buckets to this game and I’m not even done with it yet.

In short, this is not much more immersive than a pornhub clip, but if you're looking for fappable porn in this paritcular niche you'll still enjoy it. Don’t play it if you want to look at dicks or care about characters. Do play it if the sight of a mom slipping her hand inside her teenaged daughter’s panties makes you happy.

Edit: Remove some criticism of the save system. It is there, it works fine, it's just a pain in the ass to get to.

Game with great potential but terrible execution.

1. Renders are okay. Not the best but not horrible either.

2. The characters are dull and not fleshed out.

3. The story is poor. There is no build up to anything, and it does not feel like a mother-daughter relationship growing into a sexual relationship. I am not saying it should be slow-burn, but there should be some build-up to the relationship.

Overall, I game I will try again in the future to see if it has improved, but as of right now, it is not romantic, nor very incesty, nor have an engaging story.

The story is very excellent written and tempting. It's refreshing that there is no male mc this time. The models are very well rendered and the full package looks beautiful. can't wait for more regular updates. Nice work, please keep going

Between the subject matter and the renders, and elements in the underlying plot, this could have been a 5 star game.

Where it falls short, in my opinion, is the execution.

Mom/daughter seems a category that is under utilized, by itself. The daughter being the seducer/instigator works well too. So, what I hoped for, with this game, was:
Daughter reconnects with her mother, and both struggle with attraction rising to the surface, that eventually breaks through, and you get a sweet (and sexy) lesbian romance game.

And what we got... was so close to that that the ways it falls short seem to hurt the end product even more.

There is minimal drama when the characters are reunited. There is immediate sexual overtones to everything. There is no character or relationship building, merely a constant level of teasing that escalates. And even that feels awkward as characters seem to have inconsistent personalities, are inconsistent in how brazen or inhibited they are, or even in a single scene, inconsistent in whether they are jealous or not.

An example of the last point: at a spa while getting messages, Des is getting a massage while Liv watches. Liv starts jealous, but the starts to touch herself, and has dialog options to encourage things to go further, but if they do she gets upset and you get a bad end. And that'd just the "lewd content" part of the scene. Nothing else in that scene makes any real sense, either.

And lastly, the English translation (I'm assuming it is a translation) is remarkably awkward, which while not confusing, still makes the game hard to appreciate.

So, what would make the game better?
1) A small amount of drama. Liv goes to visit her mom who left her. We don't know why, but it seems Liv does, or has some idea at least. She never explains it to us, though, and seems totally OK with things between her and her mom.
I think this would have been handled better is Liv was happy to see her mother and mostly forgiven her, but still a little hurt, and unsure why her mom left. This allows for a slower paced character interaction where (without underlying animosity) they slowly get closer and open up more, with Des promising to explain everything in a few days (which allows for player tension as we wait to understand why Des ever left).

2) Seriously slow down the open sexual interest in one another. With Liv being obviously into girls, as the beginning with her friend shows, the initial meeting, and subsequent days as they reconnect and reestablish their bond, have Liv consider to herself how attractive her mother looks. How nice it felt to hug her.
Have Des, when they're talking and catching up, learn about Lib and be curious about her daughter's interest in other women. Have her consider to herself just how pretty her little girl grew up to be. Maybe even remove any idea that mom ever was with a woman before, and leave it that she was interested in women but never went for it, and have a slightly steamy conversation with Liv about what her daughter is attracted to in girls and have Liv tell her about what it was like to kiss a girl (all building some in-game sexual tension, curiosity, and even excuses to look at each other).



Sometimes you don't need a slow burn to be too slow, but that bit of buildup makes it more exciting, and more real. And sometimes, something that should feel like a slow burn, or at least earned, is given to you too fast, or too easy, and because of the lack of buildup, in either character development, story, or even just sexual desire between the two, the pacing feels so off that it crushes the soul of the product.


There is a strong potential for a 5 star game here. And lesbian games, and female protag games (worth playing) both seem to be at a minimum, so I REALLY wanted to enjoy this. But without re-writes and correction of pacing issues, instead of a sensual mother/daughter story of exploration and love... you get softcore fap material that falls flat on having enough character to draw you back into the game and the story, once you've rubbed one out.

Please, dev, refine this. Let it be the 5 star game it could be.

Pros
Good idea for a game mother daughters sex
Good renders

Cons
Some characters look alike with each other
Many errors in game
Sex scenes ends suddenly
boring story

This game had a good idea but bad execution

Scenes are interesting, and erotic, but the camera work is way below what it needs to be good. I can not say this game is porn. In this game their protagonists masturbate each other and kiss ocasionally. Once is the older to the younger and the next time is the younger doing it to the older.
There are a couple of pussy likcing scenes, but 2 end in game over and the other ones end super quick.

There are a lot of "consent check" options. In one part in the massage parlor there are like 6 or more checks where you have to make the decision of allowing to continue. There are also many others that are just part of the dialogue.
It becomes annoying after the first 3 or 4 nobody should be asking the other, specially when the other person insists that she must continue.

The Female lead doesn't go naked even once, not even topless.
Overall the scenes are interesting but if you are a guy, some visual component has to exist and this game doesn't have it.

If the main lead loses her clothes in the future aand there are actual sex scenes and not just masturbation, maybe It will rise to 4.

So this game needs camerawork and nudity for the main lead to be a good game.
And make some scenes longer with clear noticeable reasons for them to cum.
The female lead looks very good (also cause since we can not se much of her, her design flaws are hidden)

Best kind of incest possible.

The initial development I found a little fast and I thought it was strange that Liv didn't do anything with her friend before, but the scenes are very exciting, the characters are wonderful, Liv's tits are beautiful and I want to see them.

Definitely one of the best games for those who like lesbians, keep up the great work.

I played version 0.4.5c so chapter 2
I find it good
Chapter 2 is longer than Chapter 1.
the visual quality and better the music are nice
for chapter 3 I wonder what can happen after the end of 2 but this NV is amazing

Review for v04.5b
Short but so far it is the HOTTEST vn game I've played. I just love lesbian only games and wish there were far more of them.
Story 5/5 - Generic situation where parent and child reconnect after not seen each other of a long time. Simple but suits the game perfectly. So far no major dramatic paths.
Characters 5/5 - Super hot and lovable, realistic bodies that don't have over exaggerated breasts (although, I do love huge boobs and BBW so that would have been a bonus)
Sex scenes 5/5 - Only kissing and light touching so far but super hot as it is leading up to more intense stuff.

Only downside is the grammar and some spelling errors due to English not being the devs first language but it doesn't bother me too much.

Just can't wait for future updates, hopefully will come fast and regularly.

(0.45)
Is rare to find such M/D games that actually have good story telling and doesn't simply rush to the action instead of building up to it and show their struggle with the new fellings. The game is not animated but is betteer than having sloppy ones, still a great game. 10/10

I have to give 5 stars for any dev brave enough to create a game that serves a specifically small niche. It is so rare to see a lesbian incest game and I am grateful for the effort. The models are pretty and I like the chemistry presented between M/D (and soon M/D/D).

The story overall is good enough to get your arousal where it needs to be to do the job. That said, my general complaint with almost every les/inc game I've played is the lack of build-up towards the romance. It feels rushed. A good story needs obstacles to overcome, such as breaking down the walls of resistance or winning someones heart. With an incest game especially.

Anyway, keep going dev! I can't wait to see more between these sexy girls and thank you again for diving head first into this underdeveloped genre.

I enjoyed this a lot, mom/daughter is an unterrepresented pairing and these two have great chemistry. It's going rather fast, but works as a "genetic sexual attraction" style thing.

The renders are good, and the posing is excellent. There are no animations, which I find much better than bad animations.

The text really would benefit from an editor though. Stuff like sentences not starting with capital letters, missing commas and somewhat stilted phrasings appear so frequently that I found it quite distracting.