Herro again wankerz,
I know the typical first post for a game is usually after six months of prototyping with at least an hour of content and around 1-3 sex scenes, yadda yadda-- but I've decided against that. In my head, if you do the same things everyone else does, you can't complain if you get the same results. So after lurking here and seeing a number of games fizzle out after a strong start (*shakes fist at Demon Boy*), I've decided I'd rather have a strong foundation on a few key concepts:
Progress Updates.
Since I'll be starting from scratch, you guys'll be able to see my progress from zero to hero in real time. Currently, I've got this thread, to chronicle me leveling up my art skills to produce titillating erotica to use in my game. I'm probably around 20% of the where I want to be art-wise, and that thread will take me from drawing boxes in perspective, using 3D to create mockups for overpainting, all the way up to animating rods slamming into compressible squishy holes. That way, you'll know I'm not some pre-existing dev smurfing on alt patreon/subscribestar accounts to milk you while delivering high quality slop--mainly cause you'll see me actively fuck up along the way.
This thread will also serve as a temporary game journal while I work out what story I want to tackle for my first game.
Content Structure.
I'll most likely be utilizing Ren'Py for this game. A couple of features I'm inspired by are the QTEs in Desert Stalker, sex animations in Hero Party Must Fall and Vae Victis, jump-to-scene/CG in Stellar Dream, and a couple QoL features like a quest log, adding shakes and char expressions for sprites, rollback and like 20 pages of saves. THAT SAID, while I'm working on the story, I'll be working in Twine to cut back on the amount of overhead work I'll need to do as I still work a day job, can't use my work laptop to create porn, and only possess a shit jailbroken Chromebook kids I still have from highschool.
Since it's a complete story, I'll release a couple chapters so you can decide for yourself if it's a story you'd want to follow and support in the first place.
I expect it'll be next year until I finish the entire story in Twine as I'm planning for around 10 chapters, five different factions and a maximum cast of 15 LIs with branching storylines and endings. Given that I expect all the choices the player makes having weight on the outcomes for all these factions and LIs, as well as the end state for the MC himself, I'm probably looking at around 50,000+ words, and that number will likely balloon once I actually have to code.
That said, having a complete story means I can focus on deliverables. I'm thinking I'll release chapters in full, for free, while working on each successive chunk of a chapter in sequence and releasing them over time. It'll go from Twine text, to Ren'Py with gen assets, then temp art, release a chunk, then work on art exclusively while fixing bugs in the chunk, then append new chunk to finished chunk ad nauseam until a chapter is finished. Why do it this way? Because I'm sick of playing a game, then realizing I've been looping for a while, or get hit with a 'that's all the content' screen right when the story picks up.
Subscriber Tiers and Rewards.
I'll have full chapters released on Patreon or Subscribestar under a free subscriber tier. You'll get notified of general posts, updates, as well as get to play through the entire story for free, forever. I'm adamant about that. I pirate all my entertainment, and I only pay for something when I want to see more of it, not when it's wasted hours of my life.
It'll probably be: $0, $1, $3, $9, $19, $69, $420 (haven't seen this done before and it sounds hilarious in my head at least, and I'll likely make the guy an in-game NPC).
SO: The main perks will be reading the last three chapters of the completed story document/previewing the ending in twine, being able to add options to polls for in-game content, your name in credits (next to Jesus Christ and Colonel Sanders), WIP art, exclusive channels and roles (I despise Discord but likely would need to implement that so), access to Kick streams while working on art, playtesting the chunks/chapters, and likely extra in-game content/in-universe lore. Oh, and exclusive hand-holding content >.
Subscriber Input
I want to touch on this as well, since I'll be getting monetary support from people. I don't want people to have the wrong idea, but I tend to have strong artistic vision for the stuff I work on. Support is support, but if it comes to going against my own idea of how the story should go, you can go ahead and get mad, I'm not changing my mind no matter how much money you send me. That said, I'll have polls for in-universe stuff, like what clothing should characters wear? what's the culture around nakedness in this region? what does the MC encounter while travelling? Not necessarily plot-shaking stuff that degrades the plot that comes after, ESP since I need a finished concept before I start releasing a version including art.
I'd also like to hear input regarding the story, lore suggestions, and fan theories on how everything's going to go down. Not sure if this forum would be best for that, or if I need to get started with Discord ASAP for that.
So far what I've settled on is a male MC, mid-to-late twenties, lanky but athletic, and starts off getting their hair shaved off, either because of prison, or some other reason (chemo treatments), some ability to change their body, and eventually know how to fight.
I've been trying to figure out a plot to follow, but I have a million potential stories buzzing around in my brain. Paraplegic psychic body-hopper hero turned supervillain getting revenge on his old superhero team? Gritty fantasy involving destabilizing regions, cities, and royal cunts as an undercover high-ranking imperial mage working under your Empress? NEET gets parasyte/venom superpowers from alien dandere cuckquean and attempts to become a hero, ends up on the side of the villains as some fucked up double agent?
Anyway, whatever I choose, I'm going to have to deal with Patreon ToS, not planning on doing loli, beastiality, or sexual acts that are 'hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex', am I safe or is there something else I gotta watch out for? That last one is what I'm worried about, in Stellar Dream, the MC can take the Corruption route and essentially do maledom and the LI's take on a submissive tone, so is that fine? Just gotta convincingly put across that the LI is okay with it? Can't have any struggle? Zero "No!"s? or "Please stop!"s?
Anyway, looking forward to hearing from the denizens and basement-dwellers of this fine establishment. What do you think of my chances? Think I'm setting myself up for success or do you think this is doomed from the start? Let me hear your thoughts on the above, as well as hopefully vote for which story you want to explore the most!
I know the typical first post for a game is usually after six months of prototyping with at least an hour of content and around 1-3 sex scenes, yadda yadda-- but I've decided against that. In my head, if you do the same things everyone else does, you can't complain if you get the same results. So after lurking here and seeing a number of games fizzle out after a strong start (*shakes fist at Demon Boy*), I've decided I'd rather have a strong foundation on a few key concepts:
Progress Updates.
Since I'll be starting from scratch, you guys'll be able to see my progress from zero to hero in real time. Currently, I've got this thread, to chronicle me leveling up my art skills to produce titillating erotica to use in my game. I'm probably around 20% of the where I want to be art-wise, and that thread will take me from drawing boxes in perspective, using 3D to create mockups for overpainting, all the way up to animating rods slamming into compressible squishy holes. That way, you'll know I'm not some pre-existing dev smurfing on alt patreon/subscribestar accounts to milk you while delivering high quality slop--mainly cause you'll see me actively fuck up along the way.
This thread will also serve as a temporary game journal while I work out what story I want to tackle for my first game.
Content Structure.
I'll most likely be utilizing Ren'Py for this game. A couple of features I'm inspired by are the QTEs in Desert Stalker, sex animations in Hero Party Must Fall and Vae Victis, jump-to-scene/CG in Stellar Dream, and a couple QoL features like a quest log, adding shakes and char expressions for sprites, rollback and like 20 pages of saves. THAT SAID, while I'm working on the story, I'll be working in Twine to cut back on the amount of overhead work I'll need to do as I still work a day job, can't use my work laptop to create porn, and only possess a shit jailbroken Chromebook kids I still have from highschool.
Since it's a complete story, I'll release a couple chapters so you can decide for yourself if it's a story you'd want to follow and support in the first place.
I expect it'll be next year until I finish the entire story in Twine as I'm planning for around 10 chapters, five different factions and a maximum cast of 15 LIs with branching storylines and endings. Given that I expect all the choices the player makes having weight on the outcomes for all these factions and LIs, as well as the end state for the MC himself, I'm probably looking at around 50,000+ words, and that number will likely balloon once I actually have to code.
That said, having a complete story means I can focus on deliverables. I'm thinking I'll release chapters in full, for free, while working on each successive chunk of a chapter in sequence and releasing them over time. It'll go from Twine text, to Ren'Py with gen assets, then temp art, release a chunk, then work on art exclusively while fixing bugs in the chunk, then append new chunk to finished chunk ad nauseam until a chapter is finished. Why do it this way? Because I'm sick of playing a game, then realizing I've been looping for a while, or get hit with a 'that's all the content' screen right when the story picks up.
Subscriber Tiers and Rewards.
I'll have full chapters released on Patreon or Subscribestar under a free subscriber tier. You'll get notified of general posts, updates, as well as get to play through the entire story for free, forever. I'm adamant about that. I pirate all my entertainment, and I only pay for something when I want to see more of it, not when it's wasted hours of my life.
It'll probably be: $0, $1, $3, $9, $19, $69, $420 (haven't seen this done before and it sounds hilarious in my head at least, and I'll likely make the guy an in-game NPC).
SO: The main perks will be reading the last three chapters of the completed story document/previewing the ending in twine, being able to add options to polls for in-game content, your name in credits (next to Jesus Christ and Colonel Sanders), WIP art, exclusive channels and roles (I despise Discord but likely would need to implement that so), access to Kick streams while working on art, playtesting the chunks/chapters, and likely extra in-game content/in-universe lore. Oh, and exclusive hand-holding content >.
Subscriber Input
I want to touch on this as well, since I'll be getting monetary support from people. I don't want people to have the wrong idea, but I tend to have strong artistic vision for the stuff I work on. Support is support, but if it comes to going against my own idea of how the story should go, you can go ahead and get mad, I'm not changing my mind no matter how much money you send me. That said, I'll have polls for in-universe stuff, like what clothing should characters wear? what's the culture around nakedness in this region? what does the MC encounter while travelling? Not necessarily plot-shaking stuff that degrades the plot that comes after, ESP since I need a finished concept before I start releasing a version including art.
I'd also like to hear input regarding the story, lore suggestions, and fan theories on how everything's going to go down. Not sure if this forum would be best for that, or if I need to get started with Discord ASAP for that.
So far what I've settled on is a male MC, mid-to-late twenties, lanky but athletic, and starts off getting their hair shaved off, either because of prison, or some other reason (chemo treatments), some ability to change their body, and eventually know how to fight.
I've been trying to figure out a plot to follow, but I have a million potential stories buzzing around in my brain. Paraplegic psychic body-hopper hero turned supervillain getting revenge on his old superhero team? Gritty fantasy involving destabilizing regions, cities, and royal cunts as an undercover high-ranking imperial mage working under your Empress? NEET gets parasyte/venom superpowers from alien dandere cuckquean and attempts to become a hero, ends up on the side of the villains as some fucked up double agent?
Anyway, whatever I choose, I'm going to have to deal with Patreon ToS, not planning on doing loli, beastiality, or sexual acts that are 'hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex', am I safe or is there something else I gotta watch out for? That last one is what I'm worried about, in Stellar Dream, the MC can take the Corruption route and essentially do maledom and the LI's take on a submissive tone, so is that fine? Just gotta convincingly put across that the LI is okay with it? Can't have any struggle? Zero "No!"s? or "Please stop!"s?
Anyway, looking forward to hearing from the denizens and basement-dwellers of this fine establishment. What do you think of my chances? Think I'm setting myself up for success or do you think this is doomed from the start? Let me hear your thoughts on the above, as well as hopefully vote for which story you want to explore the most!