Ren'Py World's Crossing Academy [v1.3.5.4] [TeamEmberWings]

Mommysbuttslut · Friday at 3:54 PM

VictorSeven said:
And even people who liked the game were a little put off by the early perving on the girls, and that doesn't really fit Aurum that well to begin with.

To be completely honest with you I don't get that. I do respect the story you're telling and I don't mean to imply this is just a porn game, but at the end of the day it's still a porn game. From my own perspective I thought MC was being too little of a perv if anything. He is getting better as time goes on which I appreciate as it's a good part of building him as a character, but his minimal perversion is much less of a problem with his initial character as his low confidence and harem protagonist mental density is.

VictorSeven · Friday at 4:44 PM

Mommysbuttslut said:
To be completely honest with you I don't get that. I do respect the story you're telling and I don't mean to imply this is just a porn game, but at the end of the day it's still a porn game. From my own perspective I thought MC was being too little of a perv if anything. He is getting better as time goes on which I appreciate as it's a good part of building him as a character, but his minimal perversion is much less of a problem with his initial character as his low confidence and harem protagonist mental density is.

That was my initial assumption, too. I thought you had to have perving and early, easy H-scenes, or AVN players would get bored. But now, 4 years later, I go back and read it and... it just feels forced. I'm not happy with it, and even people who love the story still point these things out. And it's not a hard fix. Writing comes real easy to me. I'm not reshooting entire scenes, just retooling something that's been said so that it communicates what I was trying to get across more clearly.

TigerWolfe · Friday at 5:24 PM

VictorSeven said:
Yeah, the problem is that a lot of people didn't make it to that point.

A lot of people are stupid, don't be afraid to leave those ones behind.

TBone9 · Friday at 10:27 PM

ArhraCole said:
Honestly now the only characters I actively dislike are his sleazey coworker who doesn't respect anyone's boundaries or culture (blanking on the name at the moment, but really learned to hate him when walking on patrol with the dark elf girl), and the former coworker obvious villain.

I don't know if she counts as a character because you don't interact with her in the present, but aside from those two I also hate the ex-girlfriend/stalker's sister, first off for what she did to hurt her sister and turn her into the stalker, and also for messing her up so bad that you can't develop a decent relationship with her, at least for the time being.

TBone9 · Friday at 10:36 PM

VictorSeven said:
That was my initial assumption, too. I thought you had to have perving and early, easy H-scenes, or AVN players would get bored. But now, 4 years later, I go back and read it and... it just feels forced. I'm not happy with it, and even people who love the story still point these things out. And it's not a hard fix. Writing comes real easy to me. I'm not reshooting entire scenes, just retooling something that's been said so that it communicates what I was trying to get across more clearly.

I like the way some devs handle it by having an early teaser scene, like an accidental nude scene, or possibly having one character that is more forward than the others who either gets into some early play or maybe does a fantasy self-pleasure scene that the reader sees but the MC isn't part of. I don't think it is a bad idea to draw in and try to hook the reader early on, it just depends on how it's done.

VictorSeven · 2024-12-28T05:15:33+0000

TBone9 said:
I like the way some devs handle it by having an early teaser scene, like an accidental nude scene, or possibly having one character that is more forward than the others who either gets into some early play or maybe does a fantasy self-pleasure scene that the reader sees but the MC isn't part of. I don't think it is a bad idea to draw in and try to hook the reader early on, it just depends on how it's done.

That's honestly a really good idea. I may replace the early Gillie scene with something like that, but a bit earlier. Thanks for the idea!

sigvar · 2024-12-28T06:44:10+0000

TigerWolfe said:
Tagging at f95 is basically useless for anyone who's interested in a more niche fetish, or looking to avoid, because it's user reported, and there's always some goober who is overly sensitive and reports tags that don't exist and the mods just add them. You see it all the time with the three letter/femdom/lesbian tags.

How is Gay/Femdom/Lesbian related? One of these is not like the others.

VictorSeven said:
That's honestly a really good idea. I may replace the early Gillie scene with something like that, but a bit earlier. Thanks for the idea!

Please don't replace the early Gillie scene. Something could be added, but that scene was good and fit her personality. It also established the MC as someone who is mature and understands the concept of delayed gratification, an early indicator of intelligence. There is a low ratio of mature MCs in AVNs.

VictorSeven · 2024-12-28T07:15:21+0000

sigvar said:
Please don't replace the early Gillie scene. Something could be added, but that scene was good and fit her personality. It also established the MC as someone who is mature and understands the concept of delayed gratification, an early indicator of intelligence. There is a low ratio of mature MCs in AVNs.

Interesting take. This is the first positive feedback I've gotten about this scene. I wonder if there's anyone else out here that feels the same? Maybe I should include a question on the next community poll about it. Could be there's just more people willing to come out and make fun of it than publicly praise it, and that I've been listening to the detractors too much.

Mommysbuttslut · 2024-12-28T07:31:16+0000

VictorSeven said:
Interesting take. This is the first positive feedback I've gotten about this scene. I wonder if there's anyone else out here that feels the same? Maybe I should include a question on the next community poll about it. Could be there's just more people willing to come out and make fun of it than publicly praise it, and that I've been listening to the detractors too much.

I liked the scene. On top of establishing Gillie's personality it is also kinda important for establishing her role in the harem. She's introducing the MC to a bunch of girls and giving him the green light to romance them. It's a good way of establishing her role in his life without letting herself fall behind the competition. It's especially important given how she's shortly after incapacitated for a while and a bunch of other girls pretty well skip the que ahead of her quite a bit with the MC during her recovery.

Honestly there's this real weird subset of harem "fans" who come to harem games and complain that there's sex. Like of course it comes quick, there's so many girls that we need to get through them quick or they'll never get any content. If anything you're taking a rather conservative pacing when it comes to sex and relationship development. Not sure that's a bad thing but slowing it down from where it is isn't a good thing imo.

LordWanze · 2024-12-28T12:34:57+0000

I like the Gillie scene as well.
But on the perving- topic: one major thing that kept me interested in this game and story was the fact that MC is NOT just another awkward idiot who pervs on anything that moves.
So if you have ro include those scenes, please make it a choice.

VictorSeven · 2024-12-28T12:41:40+0000

LordWanze said:
I like the Gillie scene as well.
But on the perving- topic: one major thing that kept me interested in this game and story was the fact that MC is NOT just another awkward idiot who pervs on anything that moves.
So if you have ro include those scenes, please make it a choice.

I removed all the instances of the "look at the size of those things" type of internal comments. They seemed out of place in reference to Gillie and Ms. Clements, and a bit insensitive when it came to Kanako.

ArhraCole · 2024-12-28T13:47:01+0000

VictorSeven said:
Interesting take. This is the first positive feedback I've gotten about this scene. I wonder if there's anyone else out here that feels the same? Maybe I should include a question on the next community poll about it. Could be there's just more people willing to come out and make fun of it than publicly praise it, and that I've been listening to the detractors too much.

Yes, I quite enjoyed the first scene with Gillie. I didn't feel it was too far out there or anything else. It kind of acts as a bridge for the rest of the world to change for Aurum.

VictorSeven said:
I removed all the instances of the "look at the size of those things" type of internal comments. They seemed out of place in reference to Gillie and Ms. Clements, and a bit insensitive when it came to Kanako.

Yeah it probably doesn't need more reaction than a first time "Wow" sort of internal thought as a generality given Aurum's general personality.

VictorSeven · 2024-12-28T15:35:33+0000

Appreciate all this feedback, everyone. Extremely helpful.

Bob69 · 2024-12-28T16:20:41+0000

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