Would rendering on Daz destroy my laptop?

bugglebox

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It's my personal laptop for everything and with what I hear about rendering I'm worried about it as it has already had overheating issues before. These are the specs for it.

System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
System Mode: GL552VW
System Type: x64-based PC
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz, 2304 Mhz, 4 Logical Processor(s)

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M

Don't know how much of that is actually relevant
 

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Honestly, I would never render on any laptop. Even gaming laptops, that are built for heat and performance, wouldn't be advisable.

When rendering, you're pushing your CPU and/or GPU to it's limit, and for a sustained amount of time. That generates a great deal of heat, and laptops are not good at heat dispersion (cooling).

When I build PCs, I never use "stock" coolers (the basic ones you get when you buy a CPU etc - or in this case, laptop), because they're only suited for day to day use. And that's what a laptop has, on top of that, the hardware is all compacted into a small space, there is little airflow to disperse the heat, and with everything close together, it all heats up fast.

Also, with standard hardware like is in the laptop, the renders are going to take longer, meaning you're exposing the hardware to that extreme heat for longer, and reducing it's life.

I would invest in a specially built render PC.
 
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Honestly, I would never render on any laptop. Even gaming laptops, that are built for heat and performance, wouldn't be advisable.

When rendering, you're pushing your CPU and/or GPU to it's limit, and for a sustained amount of time. That generates a great deal of heat, and laptops are not good at heat dispersion (cooling).

When I build PCs, I never use "stock" coolers (the basic ones you get when you buy a CPU etc - or in this case, laptop), because they're only suited for day to day use. And that's what a laptop has, on top of that, the hardware is all compacted into a small space, there is little airflow to disperse the heat, and with everything close together, it all heats up fast.

Also, with standard hardware like is in the laptop, the renders are going to take longer, meaning you're exposing the hardware to that extreme heat for longer, and reducing it's life.

I would invest in a specially built render PC.
Yeah no money for that, I'd guess getting money from Patreon or finding an artist who has a rendering PC would be my best bets
 

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If your laptop specifically designed for rendering then you can safely use it. If it's a gaming laptop, then it totally depends on the quality of cooling design. Because gaming never forces your GPU like rendering. Best way to test a laptop or PC if it's suitable for rendering is using GPU, CPU torture tests or doing some test renders. :)

If your only option is using your laptop, what you can do for more safety is downclocking your GPU.
 

bugglebox

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If your laptop specifically designed for rendering then you can safely use it. If it's a gaming laptop, then it totally depends on the quality of cooling design. Because gaming never forces your GPU like rendering. Best way to test a laptop or PC if it's suitable for rendering is using GPU, CPU torture tests or doing some test renders. :)

If your only option is using your laptop, what you can do for more safety is downclocking your GPU.
I managed some renders before they were small ones, I'm not sure how my laptop would handle like actual scenes with more characters and props etc and stronger lighting. How do I downclock my GPU?
 

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You need to search, it's easy to find lots of guides and you need a software like MSI Afterburner.
 

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Benchmark is the Key word here.Just search for benchmarks tool/programms and find out what the max temp is for full load after 30 min of test the max temp/load doesn't change anymore it can but rarely.
 

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There is no such thing as a laptop designed for rendering that you can buy off the shelf (like yours). There isn't even a PC design for rendering that you can buy off the shelf.

They're all built specifically for that purpose, most often, by people who are doing the rendering, or from specialist stores that build to order.

Plain and simply, your CPU and GPU are on the lower end in terms of performance. As a meme said, I wouldn't even game on an expensive laptop. It's not worth it. Laptops are nothing but a money bin. With a PC, you can replace and expand hardware as and when needed, easily, without having to just buy a new one, or send it off to a place to do it for you (more money).

I build high performance PCs, this isn't just an uneducated opinion.
 

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Yeah it sounds to me like I'm better off finding an artist as I've got no way of getting myself a PC to do it
 

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You would be surprised. You can build a PC relatively cheaply, but build for future expansion. So you get the bare minimum now, and as funding starts to come in, expand. You can (and should) later start replacing the original hardware to increase performance. Baby steps.
 
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I have an i7 Quad Core 2.2Ghz 8Gb RAM with GT750M 4Gb and I have a cooling mat. I can do small renders, medium ones of low quality, push it any further and it gives up and switches itself off.
 

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Would it be able to handle it if say I rendered characters and interiors seperately? Literally have about £10 in my bank account so can't be buying PC parts
 

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I have an i7 Quad Core 2.2Ghz 8Gb RAM with GT750M 4Gb and I have a cooling mat. I can do small renders, medium ones of low quality, push it any further and it gives up and switches itself off.
Yeah, thats a basic protection mechanism for computers. It's getting too hot (90c +), so to protect it's self, it turns off.

Would it be able to handle it if say I rendered characters and interiors seperately? Literally have about £10 in my bank account so can't be buying PC parts
You would be reducing your work load, because the background would only have to be rendered once. But again, you're still pushing a laptop that is just designed for basic stuff. As even @kiteares said, you can only push it so far.
 

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I render on a laptop.

I do put it in an upside down v shape and leave it like that with a fan blowing on it whilst it's rendering though.
You can also hear it across the office which is an added bonus :D
 

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I render on a laptop.

I do put it in an upside down v shape and leave it like that with a fan blowing on it whilst it's rendering though.
You can also hear it across the office which is an added bonus :D
How much does that reduce the risk of my laptop burning up? Think I have a fan somewhere and I'm also probably getting a cooling mat
 

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How much does that reduce the risk of my laptop burning up? Think I have a fan somewhere and I'm also probably getting a cooling mat
I'm hoping it reduces it a lot, you can feel a lot of air moving, more than I'd guess if it was blowing directly into a desk.
When it warms up in the summer I'm going to have a desk fan pointed at it.
 

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I'm hoping it reduces it a lot, you can feel a lot of air moving, more than I'd guess if it was blowing directly into a desk.
When it warms up in the summer I'm going to have a desk fan pointed at it.
That should help then, though with how hot my laptop gets I still feel it might be risky