DownTheDrain

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Yes, but on those cases you can recognize them easily. From the way they speak, it's easy to guess they're staff member.
Could be, or they could just be a hardcore Harry Potter fanboy misguidedly defending their favorite setting. Their only post outside of this thread was in Wands and Witches after all.

Ultimately it doesn't matter, no amount of white knighting can paper over the cracks and no amount of bitching will get the devs to work harder on their little dairy farm.
 

Loffy-chan

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Not necessarily.
Some people get weirdly protective about stuff they have no personal investment in. Once they picked a side they generally stick with it no matter what happens, just like politics.
After going about my day, I was wondering what sort of comments would be waiting for me when I came back. :) Okay, so now I'm a dev in disguise or a fanboy based on where I've posted on this perticular forum? Thats a bit of a shame really, considering you did not respond like I thought "some" would.

Any way I could frame it for you to convince you otherwise? It'd be interesting to actually have half a conversation when I compare with the level in this thread alone.

But what you're writing, for me, is in the end the same thing the others write. Your emotions and bitterness over something you are most likely not involved in(unless you're a patreon member in secret, but I doubt it) written anonymously on a forum for pirated porn games.

But I really like what you wrote, which I quoted and 100% agree with. Some people get weirdly protective about stuff they have no personal investment in. Once they picked a side they generally stick with it no matter what happens, just like politics.

Well said. :)
 

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After going about my day, I was wondering what sort of comments would be waiting for me when I came back. :) Okay, so now I'm a dev in disguise or a fanboy based on where I've posted on this perticular forum? Thats a bit of a shame really, considering you did not respond like I thought "some" would.

Any way I could frame it for you to convince you otherwise? It'd be interesting to actually have half a conversation when I compare with the level in this thread alone.

But what you're writing, for me, is in the end the same thing the others write. Your emotions and bitterness over something you are most likely not involved in(unless you're a patreon member in secret, but I doubt it) written anonymously on a forum for pirated porn games.

But I really like what you wrote, which I quoted and 100% agree with. Some people get weirdly protective about stuff they have no personal investment in. Once they picked a side they generally stick with it no matter what happens, just like politics.

Well said. :)
Not entirely sure why you quoted me in particular.
I didn't call you a dev in disguise, but 9 out of your 10 posts so far were in this thread, so assuming you're a fan seemed fair.

As for the rest of your post, I doubt anyone in here is overly bitter or emotional.
It's one of those games where development has gone on for so long and updates generally offer so little new content that bitching about it has become far more entertaining than replaying the damn thing.

If you're still enjoying Innocent Witches then good for you. Just don't expect us all to get excited over a new scene or two in a project that's been around for almost 8 years with no end in sight.
 
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Loffy-chan

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Not entirely sure why you quoted me in particular.
I didn't call you a dev in disguise, but 9 out of your 10 posts so far were in this thread, so assuming you're a fan seemed fair.

As for the rest of your post, I doubt anyone in here is overly bitter or emotional.
It's one of those games where development has gone on for so long and updates generally offer so little new content that bitching about it has become far more entertaining than replaying the damn thing.

If you're still enjoying Innocent Witches then good for you. Just don't expect us all to get excited over a new scene or two in a project that's been around for almost 8 years with no end in sight.
That's a fair point. I should've known better than to jump the gun when I noticed your responses where different from the start. :) I wasn't able to multi-quote for some reason, and chose yours as a sort of collective point. You did indeed not call me a dev in disguise, someone whose post you responded to did.

And the second part could work as an explanation to the behavior I've seen from others, I'm just amazed at the amount of bile that's being thrown around and not just for the latest release. Bitching about it is not a problem to be honest, I can complain with the best of them, but it has devolved into a situation where it seems like people are competing for no.1 price in being nasty. I'm sorry for bundling you with them. :)

And as for the third part which again is a good point, it is not my business if someone is excited over something or not. If I made it my business and tried to force others to be excited I'd be a hypocrite, and not just because of my first post.

And thanks for replying to me in the manner you have, I myself am biased about people on this forum and more than half-expected you to attack me like a rabid dog. :D So you positively surprised me and made me more self-aware of my own bias, I shall have to work on that.
 

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That's a fair point. I should've known better than to jump the gun when I noticed your responses where different from the start. :) I wasn't able to multi-quote for some reason, and chose yours as a sort of collective point. You did indeed not call me a dev in disguise, someone whose post you responded to did.

And the second part could work as an explanation to the behavior I've seen from others, I'm just amazed at the amount of bile that's being thrown around and not just for the latest release. Bitching about it is not a problem to be honest, I can complain with the best of them, but it has devolved into a situation where it seems like people are competing for no.1 price in being nasty. I'm sorry for bundling you with them. :)

And as for the third part which again is a good point, it is not my business if someone is excited over something or not. If I made it my business and tried to force others to be excited I'd be a hypocrite, and not just because of my first post.

And thanks for replying to me in the manner you have, I myself am biased about people on this forum and more than half-expected you to attack me like a rabid dog. :D So you positively surprised me and made me more self-aware of my own bias, I shall have to work on that.
What you need to realise is this is a pirate den full of scallywags and cutthroats :ROFLMAO:. Expect bitching, cursing, slander, etc. This is the wild west. If its civil conversation you are after come into discord and drink with the patrons :coffee:. Cheers love
 

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Y'all just got dementia and forgot it actually exists. You brain consistently rejects to memorize specific scene in a specific game, just a coincidence.
i know she's been fucked on akabur's games and spin-offs from akabur's games.
 
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Gotta be one of the devs on an alt, with that amount of cope.
I agree that this game's development has been a clusterfuck, but it's really weird to me how passionately angry people get on these forums about games they're being provided for free. If you're a patron then I get complaining, but the devs don't have any obligation to any of us.
 
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nah actually the criticism is even more valid, since the only thing you consume it's time instead of money by playing this.
If the game is bad you can start wondering why people pay for this shit
Supporter will try to rationalize the game due to their investment or the sunk cost fallacy or whatever they think to say "money well spent, good game"
 
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drea2

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I agree that this game's development has been a clusterfuck, but it's really weird to me how passionately angry people get on these forums about games they're being provided for free. If you're a patron then I get complaining, but the devs don't have any obligation to any of us.
I agree with you in general.
But for me, this game is in legendary tier.
I'm not angry at this game, it's just funny to see how the dev will fuck their supporters over and over. Also, I think it's a good thing that we let messages for new people to don't get tricked by this game.
 
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Loffy-chan

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I agree with you in general.
But for me, this game is in legendary tier.
I'm not angry at this game, it's just funny to see how the dev will fuck their supporters over and over. Also, I think it's a good thing that we let messages for new people to don't get tricked by this game.
Now see this is a better direction for the conversation and something I want to hear more about, and talk about. I like to be informed about these things, and I will admit that I am considering buying into this game. But as such I also want to make a rational choice based on actual information, and not based on people personally feeling slighted on a forum.

DownTheDrain wasn't wrong that I'm a fan, but that also means I have standards regarding what I consume from it, and I've read a lot of posts both on here and on Wands and Witches. And few posts are constructive in any way, or truly informs about anything else than personal feelings and opinions.

If you've had a shitty experience and want to help others avoid a similar experience, you need equal amount of facts/information to the amount of emotional response. So I've cobbled together that people are displeased at the total development time with this game, "lackluster" updates(seems purely opinionated based on personal best preference) and the feeling of it not reaching an end any time soon. I know that a lot of people dislike that they restarted the plot (old vs new plot), and yet half of those people also seems to agree that the old plot was BAD, bad.

As for being a Patreon, that is supporting the devs and being allowed to share opinions. You pay for a subscription you can cancel, and as long as the game isn't abandoned you can even receive the game for free, according to the devs. Now if the game doesn't end up free in the end I can understand the anger at both devs and the annoyance that people have been willing to pay them during the development(because then the argument that the Patreons are being fooled would be true), but until such a thing actually happens isn't that opinion simply your own?

So I actually want to, if this truly is such a villian of a dev as people say, be convinced. So can you or someone else tell me a bit more about what's going on before I decide what to do with my money? :)
 
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I agree that this game's development has been a clusterfuck, but it's really weird to me how passionately angry people get on these forums about games they're being provided for free. If you're a patron then I get complaining, but the devs don't have any obligation to any of us.
I mean, it's just product of disappointment that yet another promising game ends up in milking mode rather than ever getting finished because actually finishing the game would mean end to milking and needing to actually create something new that may or may not be as popular as the current game.
 
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drea2

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So I actually want to, if this truly is such a villian of a dev as people say, be convinced. So can you or someone else tell me a bit more about what's going on before I decide what to do with my money? :)
->The game is 8 years old.
->1 sex scene with one of the main girl.
 
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Loffy-chan

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->The game is 8 years old.
->1 sex scene with one of the main girl.
........ I take it you completely missed the point of my posts. Where are the details?

The game is 8 years old...... okay your point? There are old games that have been around for 15-20 years and are still developed to this day. I seriously doubt I could spend enough money on Patreon(which I probably wont anyway, as I'm considering buying all current and future BETA and ALPHA versions with a one-time payment on Itch, which renders any money-over-time arguments more or less moot.) that can come close to the sum of money I've spent on MMORPG subscriptions since I was 15, or heck even lootcrates. And those are a generally a shitty investment of money vs enjoyment if you ask me.

So there is 1 sex scene with a main girl? I find that a good thing. Would I like more, and specifically for whomever I find as best waifu? Sure, most definitely even but that doesn't make Sad Crab a shitty dev, that only tells me you're salty over whatever it is you want doesn't exist in the game.

If that's it then I seriously question if there is any legitimacy to what is said badly about Sad Crab, and proves my original conclusion that the majority of this was people feeling personally slighted and wants to try to ruin the game for other people, the devs included.

(Edit: Made a mistake here, thought you had defended the devs from bile but it turned out to be the the other way around, so edited out this sentence. :) ) So obviously something made you lose faith in them(the devs), and if those two points are it then you need to elaborate a little for it to make any sense. o_O You don't have to tell me anything of course, but 2 sentences without details fail to become the mic-drop moment it seems you think they are.
 
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........ I take it you completely missed the point of my posts. Where are the details?

The game is 8 years old...... okay your point? There are old games that have been around for 15-20 years and are still developed to this day. I seriously doubt I could spend enough money on Patreon(which I probably wont anyway, as I'm considering buying all current and future BETA and ALPHA versions with a one-time payment on Itch, which renders any money-over-time arguments more or less moot.) that can come close to the sum of money I've spent on MMORPG subscriptions since I was 15, or heck even lootcrates. And those are a generally a shitty investment of money vs enjoyment if you ask me.

So there is 1 sex scene with a main girl? I find that a good thing. Would I like more, and specifically for whomever I find as best waifu? Sure, most definitely even but that doesn't make Sad Crab a shitty dev, that only tells me you're salty over whatever it is you want doesn't exist in the game.

If that's it then I seriously question if there is any legitimacy to what is said badly about Sad Crab, and proves my original conclusion that the majority of this was people feeling personally slighted and wants to try to ruin the game for other people, the devs included.

(Edit: Made a mistake here, thought you had defended the devs from bile but it turned out to be the the other way around, so edited out this sentence. :) ) So obviously something made you lose faith in them(the devs), and if those two points are it then you need to elaborate a little for it to make any sense. o_O You don't have to tell me anything of course, but 2 sentences without details fail to become the mic-drop moment it seems you think they are.
I mean if you can't understand the issue with my point, you're either trolling or I dunno the amount of cope.
 
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