cbomb

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I literally didn't think I would run into a character I didn't like in this game but I finally did and it turned out to be the MC's older sister. Seriously this trope of a bratty older sister is getting old in these kind of games. Didn't really see the sense in it in the first place as it always made the character unlikable and just killed all attractiveness. But man this sister takes it to the extreme. I seriously wondered if she is retarded and how did she ever get her job? She acts like a literal 12 year old.

Like seriously she says she is going to call the MC's mother, because she doesn't want him messing around girls? Is she blind or does she not see that she is also talking to an adult man? I really wished we got a chance to give her a proper response other than "fine". Everyone from MC's past who hasn't seen him in a while whether it is his mother or aunt could immediately tell that this is not the same person he once was. Just from the way he walks, talks or generally acts that he has drastically changed.

Meanwhile this dumb girl is literally still in the mentallity of early high school. Trying to mock MC for being smart? Dumb move. Trying to mock for being rich? How the hell does that work? He could buy out her entire department with the money he makes in a day and put her out of a job.

When the interactions with her just started I literally was like woman do you not know who you are talking to? It was like watching a level 5 newbie trying to take on a level 100 veteran. I seriously wanted the shock and awe moment. Is there going to be an option to just skip her or avoid her or are we going to be forced to take her no matter what? Because right now I don't want anything to do with her. Compared to every other girl she is luke-warm at best. I would rather have her say everything she normally says to us infront of Anna then have Anna "discipline" her all while having fun with Nicole in front of her so she can see what she will never have.
I understand what you're saying, the dumb and bratty sister has been done before. Frankly, I love it. Lol. Always seems to work for me. Nothing wrong with your opinion, but it certainly illictited a strong emotional response from you as seen from your lengthy post about it. So the dev succeeded in that sense. Won't you be happy when the MC inevitably breaks her and has her worshiping the MC(my opinion, not sure if that's the plan)? Also, out of curiosity, how would you prefer her demeanor to be?
 
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mistermwa

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At one point it could be good to have the order of the 4 part of the game, it's messy since it's been split
 

rahkshi01

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I understand what you're saying, the dumb and bratty sister has been done before. Frankly, I love it. Lol. Always seems to work for me. Nothing wrong with your opinion, but it certainly illictited a strong emotional response from you as seen from your lengthy post about it. So the dev succeeded in that sense. Won't you be happy when the MC inevitably breaks her and has her worshiping the MC(my opinion, not sure if that's the plan)? Also, out of curiosity, how would you prefer her demeanor to be?
It's not just dumb but unbelievably dumb. I mean the whole way she is presented is like I said what you would expect from a maybe a 12 going 13 year old spoiled girl who thinks she is all that not a grown woman. The trope of a mean elder sister just honestly never made any sense, because it is not just sibling rivalry but it often makes them seem like a villain in a sense for no reason. I always ask what did the MC do in these games that justify them acting like that. It usually just ends up with the answer being they just are and that just means they are a horrible person. So in games like that I usually skip those characters or if given the option for a revenge route or dominate route I go that way and then just use them and throw them away, because of the unjustified hate they show, so I hate them back. Any negative option I get concerning them I pick it.

I had an ironic moment when I was thinking if I ever do anything with this girl it will be a wham bam thank you ma'am situation then 2 seconds later she said it. Probably she gets that treatment because that is all she is worth. I can't speak for the goal of the dev on what he was trying to achieve with this character, but it my case it didn't make me even want to break her or worship the MC, or have anything to do with her sexually. It made me hate her and just want to put her in her place. Possibly even go so far as use my influence to wreck her life and show her what real power is. Maybe have her boss at work turn out to be one of the MC's women and make her life a nightmare and then lose her job. Give her a cold hard slap of reality across the face both physically and metaphorically, and have a serious reality check, that this ain't first year high school and it ain't mean girls. Maybe have Anna torture her a bit as her new toy.

In terms of your question how would I prefer her demeanor to be? At least a decent human being, because right now she has absolutely nothing redeeming about her except for her friend. There have been games where we have had tough girls in appearance who were either bikers or police with alot of tatoos like her but turned out to be absolute sweet hearts while maintaining the rough girl appearance. Plus no way in hell she made it past basic recruitment much less detective with her lack of intelligence.

The reason why I talked so much on this is because this is like the 5th game in a row that I have played with an older sister like her and for some reason they are all brain dead jerks who are mean to the MC for no reason. I was like seriously again?! So it finally got tiring and I poured that resentment into this.
 
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cbomb

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It's not just dumb but unbelievably dumb. I mean the whole way she is presented is like I said what you would expect from a maybe a 12 going 13 year old spoiled girl who thinks she is all that not a grown woman. The trope of a mean elder sister just honestly never made any sense, because it is not just sibling rivalry but it often makes them seem like a villain in a sense for no reason. I always ask what did the MC do in these games that justify them acting like that. It usually just ends up with the answer being they just are and that just means they are a horrible person. So in games like that I usually skip those characters or if given the option for a revenge route or dominate route I go that way and then just use them and throw them away, because of the unjustified hate they show, so I hate them back. Any negative option I get concerning them I pick it.

I had an ironic moment when I was thinking if I ever do anything with this girl it will be a wham bam thank you ma'am situation then 2 seconds later she said it. Probably she gets that treatment because that is all she is worth. I can't speak for the goal of the dev on what he was trying to achieve with this character, but it my case it didn't make me even want to break her or worship the MC, or have anything to do with her sexually. It made me hate her and just want to put her in her place. Possibly even go so far as use my influence to wreck her life and show her what real power is. Maybe have her boss at work turn out to be one of the MC's women and make her life a nightmare and then lose her job. Give her a cold hard slap of reality across the face both physically and metaphorically, and have a serious reality check, that this ain't first year high school and it ain't mean girls. Maybe have Anna torture her a bit as her new toy.

In terms of your question how would I prefer her demeanor to be? At least a decent human being, because right now she has absolutely nothing redeeming about her except for her friend. There have been games where we have had tough girls in appearance who were either bikers or police with alot of tatoos like her but turned out to be absolute sweet hearts while maintaining the rough girl appearance. Plus no way in hell she made it past basic recruitment much less detective with her lack of intelligence.

The reason why I talked so much on this is because this is like the 5th game in a row that I have played with an older sister like her and for some reason they are all brain dead jerks who are mean to the MC for no reason. I was like seriously again?! So it finally got tiring and I poured that resentment into this.
I definetly get where you're comming from. There are tropes that aggravate me as well in VNs. Fortunately for me,in this instance , the "bratty sister" isn't one of them. It's a solid VN so I hope she doesn't ruin it for you. Maybe the dev will surprise you and her future content will be more tolerable or skippable for you. Either way I appreciate the response as I like hearing rational contradicting viewpoints from my own.
 
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rahkshi01

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I definetly get where you're comming from. There are tropes that aggravate me as well in VNs. Fortunately for me,in this instance , the "bratty sister" isn't one of them. It's a solid VN so I hope she doesn't ruin it for you. Maybe the dev will surprise you and her future content will be more tolerable or skippable for you. Either way I appreciate the response as like hearing rational contradicting viewpoints from my own.
Yeah tropes can be a good or bad thing depending on what they are. It's just in my case with this kind it is like "what did I do?" "Oh nothing well I hate you too then." I am honestly trying to remember right now what games there were that had a genuine good or loving older sister, but all I am coming up with are japanese games. I know that had to be some western ones but I can't remember. For her though I think I will just skip her, or let her see what and who she is dealing with and let her know she can't have any of it. She felt like a downgrade for me at this point compared to the other girls, like the MC would be settling for her or she is not worthy of him.
 
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cbomb

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Yeah tropes can be a good or bad thing depending on what they are. It's just in my case with this kind it is like "what did I do?" "Oh nothing well I hate you too then." I am honestly trying to remember right now what games there were that had a genuine good or loving older sister, but all I am coming up with are japanese games. I know that had to be some western ones but I can't remember. For her though I think I will just skip her, or let her see what and who she is dealing with and let her know she can't have any of it. She felt like a downgrade for me at this point compared to the other girls, like the MC would be settling for her or she is not worthy of him.
The older sister in midnight paradise might fit you're description if I remember correctly. Perhaps kylee from heart problems as well but she is a cousin.
 

motseer

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It's not just dumb but unbelievably dumb. I mean the whole way she is presented is like I said what you would expect from a maybe a 12 going 13 year old spoiled girl who thinks she is all that not a grown woman. The trope of a mean elder sister just honestly never made any sense, because it is not just sibling rivalry but it often makes them seem like a villain in a sense for no reason. I always ask what did the MC do in these games that justify them acting like that. It usually just ends up with the answer being they just are and that just means they are a horrible person. So in games like that I usually skip those characters or if given the option for a revenge route or dominate route I go that way and then just use them and throw them away, because of the unjustified hate they show, so I hate them back. Any negative option I get concerning them I pick it.

I had an ironic moment when I was thinking if I ever do anything with this girl it will be a wham bam thank you ma'am situation then 2 seconds later she said it. Probably she gets that treatment because that is all she is worth. I can't speak for the goal of the dev on what he was trying to achieve with this character, but it my case it didn't make me even want to break her or worship the MC, or have anything to do with her sexually. It made me hate her and just want to put her in her place. Possibly even go so far as use my influence to wreck her life and show her what real power is. Maybe have her boss at work turn out to be one of the MC's women and make her life a nightmare and then lose her job. Give her a cold hard slap of reality across the face both physically and metaphorically, and have a serious reality check, that this ain't first year high school and it ain't mean girls. Maybe have Anna torture her a bit as her new toy.

In terms of your question how would I prefer her demeanor to be? At least a decent human being, because right now she has absolutely nothing redeeming about her except for her friend. There have been games where we have had tough girls in appearance who were either bikers or police with alot of tatoos like her but turned out to be absolute sweet hearts while maintaining the rough girl appearance. Plus no way in hell she made it past basic recruitment much less detective with her lack of intelligence.

The reason why I talked so much on this is because this is like the 5th game in a row that I have played with an older sister like her and for some reason they are all brain dead jerks who are mean to the MC for no reason. I was like seriously again?! So it finally got tiring and I poured that resentment into this.
Actually, I think I'll be able to forgive Maximus14 and forget about the "bratty" sister completely. On one condition. In the the next update we must be allowed to drown her in the pool. Jus' Sayin':cool:
 

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Porn definition of MILF has always been a woman who doesn't look like a teenager.......
It was largely cougar. Step-mom is a very common tag for it as well... i have absolutely no idea when MILF somehow just equated to non young looking woman but i would wager it was a gen Z thing - the youngsters amongst that lot love labelling things like nothing we have ever seen before and often label things very wrongly so yeah i guess there is that lol
 

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They should've just stick with moaning instead actual voice acting. sounds like they just took the voices out of a porn vid or sum shit.
 

Tokenugget

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Well i definitely enjoy this game... but what the hell is this? I clicked the lips for alternate outfits and this happens...

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These are like 2 completely different people. And BTW the 2nd image is sooo much hotter.:sneaky: Soo uh, dev.... get rid of the "original" version and keep it consistent. :ROFLMAO:

I mean, the first image looks like renders from 2 years ago and the 2nd is top notch....
 
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stahlblau

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Well i definitely enjoy this game... but what the hell is this? I clicked the lips for alternate outfits and this happens...

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These are like 2 completely different people. And BTW the 2nd image is sooo much hotter.:sneaky: Soo uh, dev.... get rid of the "original" version and keep it consistent. :ROFLMAO:

I mean, the first image looks like renders from 2 years ago and the 2nd is top notch....
by the way, I didn't realize it while playing the game. I really fell in love with the second photo, but I still want to fuck the girls in the first photo

:LUL:
 
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Tokenugget

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Wow.... Speechless. I mean sorry for spamming these images. But i'm so confused. One is clearly sooo much hotter and one is not. The fact that the dev chose the first image to be seen over the second is unfathomable.

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Tokenugget

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As i continue this VN.... i give up. The dev is complete retard. Or he doesn't care and has multiple people just spewing random renders for him to implement without caring for quality. I mean really???? This is what the lip option gives me? The first is a shitty render and the second is actually quality?
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It's so hard to stay immersed when you have to click the "lip" option for a decent render. So sad. I mean, this is a pirate site.... so i got this for free. But is there some insane money grift on patreon that allows the highest paying tier to get the quality renders?
 
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Adoringfan

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As i continue this VN.... i give up. The dev is complete retard. Or he doesn't care and has multiple people just spewing random renders for him to implement without caring for quality. I mean really???? This is what the lip option gives me? The first is a shitty render and the second is actually quality?
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It's so hard to stay immersed when you have to click the "lip" option for a decent render. So sad. I mean, this is a pirate site.... so i got this for free. But is there some insane money grift on patreon that allows the highest paying tier to get the quality renders?
I think the dev only recently discovered ai 'touchups,' so it will be awhile before you get the second set of images as the standard, if you ever do. The lips icon is just showing off the ai rendered stuff as a neat added bonus.
 
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As i continue this VN.... i give up. The dev is complete retard. Or he doesn't care and has multiple people just spewing random renders for him to implement without caring for quality. I mean really???? This is what the lip option gives me? The first is a shitty render and the second is actually quality?
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It's so hard to stay immersed when you have to click the "lip" option for a decent render. So sad. I mean, this is a pirate site.... so i got this for free. But is there some insane money grift on patreon that allows the highest paying tier to get the quality renders?
I thought these are AI generated pictures based on his renders which means he doesn't have enough influence on the outcome.
 

rahkshi01

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The older sister in midnight paradise might fit you're description if I remember correctly. Perhaps kylee from heart problems as well but she is a cousin.
I honestly never played Midnight paradise, because I heard quite a few negative stuff about it, like dragging out updates that go nowhere, or the one thing I always saw when an update drop was people saying "no Joyce content" after so long. I also saw something about people not liking the sister's new model so I don't know if they remade scenes or not. That and I also remembered there was a lot of controversy over an almost rape scene with her where she is stripped down by another guy and locked in a pillory. I don't know if that is still in the game, but stuff like that don't sit right with me. It just got quite confusing. But man now after all this I am really wanting to find a game that has loving big sister.
 
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DampAnkles

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It's not just dumb but unbelievably dumb. I mean the whole way she is presented is like I said what you would expect from a maybe a 12 going 13 year old spoiled girl who thinks she is all that not a grown woman. The trope of a mean elder sister just honestly never made any sense, because it is not just sibling rivalry but it often makes them seem like a villain in a sense for no reason. I always ask what did the MC do in these games that justify them acting like that. It usually just ends up with the answer being they just are and that just means they are a horrible person. So in games like that I usually skip those characters or if given the option for a revenge route or dominate route I go that way and then just use them and throw them away, because of the unjustified hate they show, so I hate them back. Any negative option I get concerning them I pick it.

I had an ironic moment when I was thinking if I ever do anything with this girl it will be a wham bam thank you ma'am situation then 2 seconds later she said it. Probably she gets that treatment because that is all she is worth. I can't speak for the goal of the dev on what he was trying to achieve with this character, but it my case it didn't make me even want to break her or worship the MC, or have anything to do with her sexually. It made me hate her and just want to put her in her place. Possibly even go so far as use my influence to wreck her life and show her what real power is. Maybe have her boss at work turn out to be one of the MC's women and make her life a nightmare and then lose her job. Give her a cold hard slap of reality across the face both physically and metaphorically, and have a serious reality check, that this ain't first year high school and it ain't mean girls. Maybe have Anna torture her a bit as her new toy.

In terms of your question how would I prefer her demeanor to be? At least a decent human being, because right now she has absolutely nothing redeeming about her except for her friend. There have been games where we have had tough girls in appearance who were either bikers or police with alot of tatoos like her but turned out to be absolute sweet hearts while maintaining the rough girl appearance. Plus no way in hell she made it past basic recruitment much less detective with her lack of intelligence.

The reason why I talked so much on this is because this is like the 5th game in a row that I have played with an older sister like her and for some reason they are all brain dead jerks who are mean to the MC for no reason. I was like seriously again?! So it finally got tiring and I poured that resentment into this.
The sister should be way more mature. It's crossed my mind that the mom put her up this, to get a reaction out of the MC, which will make the sister see the light. In any case, the sister really should do her teasing and chastising in a much more subtle and mature manner. If no man can satisfy her, she really shouldn't be behaving like a teen. I agree with you somewhat, but I think your over-reaction is childish.
 
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