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So are any of you guys who are bitterly complaining about this guy actually Paying him anything or have you ever paid him anything?
It doesn't matter, sycophants will use whatever option to keep justifying themselves and Crush:

- Haven't ever paid? Your opinion doesn't matter because you haven't paid
- Have paid in the past but stopped supporting? Clearly you stopped and now you're bitter
- Are actively paying and still complaining? You just don't understand the process, you're entitled, it's a donation not a payment
 
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Crush has been keeping a steady, but rather slow pace for years now. He hasn't rebooted the game in three or four years. Yet, his critics still bring that up. So why should he do anything to appease them? He doesn't have to. And from his point of view: neither should he.
The fact that "he hasn't rebooted the game for the second/third time in three or four years" is seen as a positive and not the very baseline is hilarious on its own right.
 

Ripe

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Isn't this current version a 3rd reboot?

First was following 1.6.x when he introduced Lifepath, second when he completely reworked Lifepath by removing 4-out-5 nations and we are now in third where he abandoned Lifepath and more or less continued from where he was in 1.2.x or early 1.3.x
 
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Lurker1001

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It doesn't matter, sycophants will use whatever option to keep justifying themselves and Crush:

- Haven't ever paid? Your opinion doesn't matter because you haven't paid
- Have paid in the past but stopped supporting? Clearly you stopped and now you're bitter
- Are actively paying and still complaining? You just don't understand the process, you're entitled, it's a donation not a payment
So anyone that points out how toxic people get on forums are sycophants now?
Im not justifying anything... just saying... you guys are being childish dicks and this all just sounds like a lame excuse for people to keep being toxic assholes to me.

Is you are whinging so hard over something you are getting for free... thats just entitlement. Lol
Not much else to say here... it is what it is. Entitlement and toxicity.

If thats what you want to be... go hard... but at least stop pussing out over it and own it.

Now bring on the facepalms and insults for me to ignore. Lol
 

rbx4

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This thread is always fascinating, that's all I have to say about it for now. Those who check back several years in the thread's history will know where I am coming from. I am sure that these absolutely accurate summaries of the thread will continue as they have since the beginning.
 

rbx4

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If he's normally regulated then yes, any sane and normally regulated person would want the best for themselves, and would establish that consistent updates are the best for themselves, and therefore that it NEEDS to happen.
I'm not saying that I'm not duly interested in making the world of adult gaming a better place, but there's only so much that we can do. It's fine letting people design at their own pace, and I don't mind checking on games 5 or 10 years from now to see how far they have or have not progressed (and, it goes without saying, not being silly enough to pay a subscription over that time frame).

Designing games is easier than ever, and that has been a much more interesting and rewarding avenue for me, at least. Almost every step of the process is now far easier than it used to be. I'm looking forward to seeing the visions of people who have great game concepts in mind, but who needed the extra coding skills boost that ai can give them.
 
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hsaIV

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Great idea for a game, reminds me of the flash game Agent69... Too bad it's only text based.
 

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Looking at his post on patreon from 4 days ago. Got to wonder does he actually have stress issue or is this him pretending to give an excuse for more time.
Honestly, no idea. Even if he does this often it wouldn't be an indicator one way or another.

Probably the biggest thing I can say about it with honesty is it irritates me like it probably does most people when people miss dates and release. It would bother me a lot more if I had money invested in a project. Learned that lesson.
 

boobthief

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Did people subscribe and just forgot?
says the average per patron is $2.55/month so a lot of people are on the $1/month tier. I'm guessing very low churn (people cancelling) because of the regular posts hinting at more than two wanks updates per year. Coming real soon TM!
 
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boobthief

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Looking at his post on patreon from 4 days ago. Got to wonder does he actually have stress issue or is this him pretending to give an excuse for more time.
Honestly, no idea. Even if he does this often it wouldn't be an indicator one way or another.

Probably the biggest thing I can say about it with honesty is it irritates me like it probably does most people when people miss dates and release. It would bother me a lot more if I had money invested in a project. Learned that lesson.
Picture if you will...

A writer so adept at writing humiliation fetish they created a game so good that thousands of people pay for more only to be kept sexually frustrated so the writer themself receives humiliation from their readers' frustration: their muse engorging.

But after restarts and reboots it backfired; the game became too appealing to normies. Instead of getting the proverbial exciting kick in the balls feedback-fuel they were enveloped by gushing encouragement from well-wishers.

And so the edging editing "polishing" continues until release can be found.

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This didn't happen. I made it up. People don't write what they know.
 
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Picture if you will...

A writer so adept at writing humiliation fetish they created a game so good that thousands of people pay for more only to be kept sexually frustrated so the writer themself receives humiliation from their readers' frustration: their muse engorging.

But after restarts and reboots it backfired; the game became too appealing to normies. Instead of getting the proverbial exciting kick in the balls feedback-fuel they were enveloped by gushing encouragement from well-wishers.

And so the edging editing "polishing" continues until release can be found.

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This didn't happen. I made it up. People don't write what they know.
Unironically a more plausible explanation than "He's genuinely writing 12 hours a day".
 

restlez

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says the average per patron is $2.55/month so a lot of people are on the $1/month tier. I'm guessing very low churn (people cancelling) because of the regular posts hinting at more than two wanks updates per year. Coming real soon TM!
This may be valuable data for those inspiring to make it on patreon:unsure:
 

vicaddict

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Actually, if crush wants people to be happy he needs consistent update times. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact about development. And in fact it's a fact about life, people absolutely do not like the unknown and unpredictable. If he does 2 months late release every time more patreons will stop paying. Also, your whole point is based on something unproven. That patreons are paying and content. I am sure he lost some patreons already.

Also, your whole point is based again on a false premise. That happiness is to prevent losing patreons. In fact 'wanting people to be happy' was more about gaining more patreons. If crush wants people to be happy... in other words if he wants 10,000$ a month instead of the 6000$ he's currently making, then he would want consistent updates.
This is pure speculation. You don't know how many more patrons he would get by updating the game more often. You don't know how much more money he could get. As of right now the process works. Again, neither you, nor me have to like it. It works for him and that is what matters for him. Of course he could be more efficient. Nobody is denying that. But does he have to change anything? No. This is just your expectation. He hasn't changed in 5 years. Why would he now? His business model works.

Also I don't think, he is unpredictable. If anything, his delays and excuses are expected at this point. They are part of the circle of life so to speak. Also Crush in all of his wisdom hasn't given another schedule. That backfired pretty badly last year and if I am not mistaken, we still haven't seen all of the content that was supposed to be finished a year ago. Again, at this point, it is expected and priced in.

What I also don't really understand is the point some people are trying to make. "At this speed, his game might never be finished". True. How many games ever do get finished? 5%? At some point they all get abandoned. Engaging with any of these games, expecting them to get finished is rather naive, I'd say. It's like watching porn and expecting an elaborate story.
 

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Expectation (apparently unreasonable):
1 - update the changelog (15min)
2 - code in some small logic things (i.e. in the current version, it allows access to conditional scenes so it's easier to test and review, so I need to add in the <if kate has been here, show this scene> tags) (1-2h)
3 - add in some extra artwork Queen V did while I was editing that looks awesome (1h)
4 - some other small fixes and tweaks (1-2h)
5 - compile for release (5min)
6 - upload (5min)
7 - publish links (5min)

In total: 3.5-5.5h

Reality:
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Deniz31

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Expectation (apparently unreasonable):
1 - update the changelog (15min)
2 - code in some small logic things (i.e. in the current version, it allows access to conditional scenes so it's easier to test and review, so I need to add in the <if kate has been here, show this scene> tags) (1-2h)
3 - add in some extra artwork Queen V did while I was editing that looks awesome (1h)
4 - some other small fixes and tweaks (1-2h)
5 - compile for release (5min)
6 - upload (5min)
7 - publish links (5min)

In total: 3.5-5.5h

Reality:
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He forgot to add these steps:
-sit on the chair
-press the button to turn on pc
-enter password
-double click on twine icon
Etc. Etc.
 
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Expectation (apparently unreasonable):
1 - update the changelog (15min)
2 - code in some small logic things (i.e. in the current version, it allows access to conditional scenes so it's easier to test and review, so I need to add in the <if kate has been here, show this scene> tags) (1-2h)
3 - add in some extra artwork Queen V did while I was editing that looks awesome (1h)
4 - some other small fixes and tweaks (1-2h)
5 - compile for release (5min)
6 - upload (5min)
7 - publish links (5min)

In total: 3.5-5.5h

Reality:
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I know I know, 47th message saying the same thing, but let me just say my thing. I'm surprised he's *that* bad at doing these time estimations, for *one* reason.

Unlike most software devs, he doesn't work in a company, in a team inside the company. There are no "Hey I need to pull you to this call, 30 minutes." or "Sorry but I need you to look into this bug right now". Those things do genuinely throw any estimation off.

He has to do the exact same thing he's done for every release, alone, and yet, he fails at it.
 
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