VN - Ren'Py - Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

Pros:
animated sex scenes with alternatives
pretty advanced relationship system for renpy
i like owning girls and having fun
i love branching pathes in the stories
Cons:
generic 3d models and kind of ugly characters
decissions with single most optimal path...walkthru play simulator
most fun options unlock least content
game is very unfinished and outright annoying to play if you lost points for unlock
game would do better as sandbox with repeatable interactions
a lot of decissions does not cost anything - early in the game player have decent stack of money given and there is nothing you can do if you have/not have the money
there is a lot of encounters that could give you chance to be abusive, but they just doesn't go anywhere

Very seldom do I write a review but I just wanted to drop this one because this game is a well deserved n1 top rated on the whole site. Let me start by describing this game by borrowing one of it's many lewd scenes because it's inch perfect description as you can get for Pale Carnations.

"You're no longer a student right now. All that studying, that stressful daily grind to establish yourself as a respectable adult, that's out the window."


"All you know right now is what is in front of you... a drooling cunt and ripe fuckable asshole completely at your mercy."


"The only question is: what are you going to do with them?"


Honestly I was very skeptical trying out this game, being top rated and all, fully expected it to be massively overrated like most in the top 15. I was also this close to letting it go because the beginning is a bit long and rought around the edges, but I stuck with it through this and was rewarded in full.

There's not much for me to really add to the long list of 5 star reviews that wasn't already said before, but let me at least say this.. stop looking at the girls as love interests and instead take them for what they really are, sexual wish fullfilment fantasy. The game is masterfully designed around just that, giving you a genuis setting with fuckable characters where you can let loose. The sexual content is exhaustive enough so that most people find something to enjoy.

I personally wasn't much into the BDSM parts of the exhibition events, but I gobbled up all the power tripping with obedient sluts. Especially Felicia is a new experience, shameless slut for cocks that hides within her high social standing as a trophy wife of one of the most powerful figures in the story. She loves to be degraded and turned into a cumslut for whoever, but she is also extremely smart and wise women that might even intimidate or downright scare you (even more then our dear villainess Kat, in her own way).

Very good story, characters, animations and routes you can go. very good game overall, top tier game for sure. Really liked it and waiting for the next updates. Only downside for me but its pretty personal i don't find Veronica to be on the next level of the other characters as on the looks but is ok

CH.4 Up 4

I played this game 6 times and it is amazing - it is not the best game on this site (for me, objectively speaking it is as weighted rating of this game is the best at the time of writing this), but it's rating and reviews are warranted.

Every single thing has already been said 450 times - game is written on extremely good level, I'm not a native speeker and first time playing game like this I had to check for a word in a dictionary. This shows how complex the language is but while being complex is also very fun to read, this is not taken from scientific magazine, but from a great book.

Story is great, but it's not amazing, it's just a pretext to introduce girls. Conversations with them and MC's monologues is what makes this game so great. I caught myself that I was so absorbed in dialogue and conversation with one of the girls that I didn't want sex scene to happen and few times I preferred hugging someone or telling someone I like her than having a sex scene - this is this kind of game, where you take pleasure in reading a conversation between intelligent people.

Well, I stated that I preferred conversations than sex scenes, but I have to say that sex scenes are just amazing. Animations and renders may not be on the highest possible level, but this is not important - 95% of other devs on this site should play this game and take notes, because this is how a sex scene should look like - it should be long, lasting 10+ minutes, with two people talking, describing their emotions, asking how they feel, sharing everything what's on their mind, even smallest details. Beautiful. MC's urge to satisfy partner, to make them come is amazing, most of the games skip foreplay entirely and here some of the scenes are just amazingly advanced foreplay - like making your partner orgasm 4 times. MC has stamina to last really long which makes every sex scene amazing. Some people may not like it, but I've never seen so much text during sex scenes and it is amazing for me - I'd rather have MC that thinks about every single thing that he's doing than MC that just puts it in, few moves, few positions, 2 minutes and over. Devs of other games - come here and take notes, seriously.

Killian - truely an amazing friend, has his flaws like everyone, he's not hiding the fact that he's not perfect, but you can count on him anytime, he may want to be perceived as a little goofy character, but he's an very intelligent guy and he makes MC a better person. Easily in my top3 friends of all games I've played. High five, Killian!

I played this game 6 times because I made pure playthroughs for all main girls (by pure I mean rejecting all other girls, focusing on just one, making the chosen one win exhibition and so on) + Kathleen, which is my manwhore playthrough where I fuck everything that stands and keep highest possible score for Kathleen + chose to stay with her after 2nd week.

Ok, I'll try to rate these playthroughs, because I had my favourites, but I want to emphasize - this is purely MY OPINION and I know that everyone has their favourites. I want to emphasize one other thing - I liked all 6 paths/playthroughs, the 6th one is not my "worst" but "6th favourite"



1. Pure Hana - ok, this not a surprise, because Hana is the crowd favourite for a reason, "poster girl" of this game, has a lot of attention even if you're not on her path, but what I love the most about her is obviously her character. Under the rockstar facade (she looks amazing btw) is a sweet, charming, caring intelligent, full of emotions girl. Conversations with her are brilliant, I love how MC shares stuff with her and crushes the wall that she's trying to keep and she eventually shares with him everything (her mom etc). Also, as a moment of writing - she is the only girl that can be officaly MC's girlfriend and I really value this official status. All her scenes are amazing, date with her is just incredible. These few sentences cannot show how truely amazing she is, I'm sure I could have described it better, but keep in mind that for some people Hana is the most amazing LI ever and there is a lot in it, so if you have time just for one playthrough - do pure Hana playthrough, you won't be dissapointed.


2. Pure Felicia - this is really surprising for me. I didn't expect to like her so much, my initial feelings towards her were really low and I played her path because I wanted to give all the girls a chance... and that was an amazing decision. Under a stupid golddigger facade hides the most intelligent girl of this game (for me). I don't know if dev really wanted to give her so much, I wrote few books and I know that it's sometimes hard to write someone and to not let your personal emotions "cover" this person - you can see it sometimes in this game that it's like dev is talking with dev, because a lot of dialogues are too complicated and feel like they couldn't have been said by this person. Ok, I'm babbling. What I meant is that Felicia is extremely intelligent and I'm not sure if dev wanted this. Nevermind, about Felicia. Relationship with her is complicated, because obviously she's married, but you see that her marriage just gives her certain position and status. You can see that she really feels for MC. And date with her (art show and so on) is not only the best date of this game but also one of the best dates I've ever seen in all the games I've played. It was just perfect. The dialogues between them, encouragment from MC to be better person, challenging her to leave her comfort zone, and of course amazing and romantic sex scene.

Her motive to win the exhibition is kind of meh tbh, but I don't really care.


3. Pure Victoria - also a surprise for me. Surprise, because I didn't really like her in most of the playthroughs and let her lose the exhibition on every week, because she seemed obnoxious and arrogant. She really gains a lot if you get to know her better and I know it's a cliche, because everyone does but with Victoria it's most visible. She really gains a lot on her path and that's why she's my 3rd favourite. She's a complicated person with emotional wall even bigger than Hana, MC must try really hard to even be friends with her and I really like this dynamic. I really like the face that she's showing when she sees that he's not just trying to fuck her but cares about her. This tough Amazon is also a sweet and emotional woman, but she's trying to hide it so hard that every hug, kiss and smile from her seems like a win. Also, I don't really care about this but her sex scenes are specific, some of them have really SUB dynamic so if you're into this kind of things - she's even better.


4. Pure Rosalind - I really like her, she's sweet and beautiful, I chose for MC to like her because she reminds him of his mother, but that was a mistake, I don't really want to. Also, I want to help her and be with her despite of her offer and deal and I want the MC to focus on it more. It's there and you can choose to like her "for free" but she looks like she doesn't believe that MC really likes her so it's a lot of work for them if they want to have a normal relationship because right now the dynamic of their relationship seems a little weird. Her life situation is complicated and that's why I choose to help her win in more neutral playthroughs, she seems like a natural person to focus on.


5. Pure Mina - maybe biggest dissapointment for me. I don't really like her path. I know that for some people she's the best girl or really close to Hana, but I just don't see it. At the beginning of the game, she's Killian's girlfriend and even though we all know how this is going to end and how it ends, MC cannot be with her because he values friendship with Killian a lot. I know that Killian would "accept" MC being with Mina, but you can see that he clearly liked her and I just can't do something like this to my friend, so her path for me is really weird and hard to accept. I'd rather have happy friend in Killian than be with Mina, really. Also, for a shy and bubbly girl, dynamic of their relationship after Killian (sex bucket list?) is so weird and it absolutely does not match her character. I know they rationalize this in their conversations, but this whole idea is stupid.


6. Manwhore + Kathleen - I like Kathleen and I played this "path" (reject all others, max afilliation with Kathleen, accept everything from her) out of curiosity, it's interesting to see MC learning things about himself and accepting who he really is. Their coversations are interesting and I will keep/play this path just out of curiousity and also you can see that there will be some content there because if you spend time with her and have high afilliation, you receive a weird suitcase from her with random things and I can't wait to see how this will play out.


I consider everything above as positives if I had to review this game in more standard way.

Now, for negatives, because no game is perfect:

1. I really didn't like few situations, thought that MC is forced to something and would like the option to decline, but I guess this is a plot of this game and you have to accept it, not a free world game where you create everything.
2. For a game that is 4 years old, amount of content if you're going for just one girl is pretty average and if we're going to get 1/2 "dates" per update, this game will take years to develop certain relationships.
3. Thank fuck he finally got rid of this egghead and he looks quite normal but it took him a really long time to change hairstyle and - while I accepted the MC as "me" - he IS specific and his look is not something that you accept fast. I know that not every MC has to be the most handsome dude in the game, but jesus christ, this hair should have been cut a lot earlier.
4. Save system - I know it's nitpicking but it infuriated me and stopped me from saving a lot more. You should be able to save in 2 clicks - RMB + save slot and saved, but no, here you RMB, look for saves in this long list, click on saves, pick a spot and you have to confirm a save. Ehhh. I hate it and it really says a lot of good about this game that one of the worst things about this game is a save system, which is just nothing for some poeple.

Anyway, enough of this. Purely amazing game, one of the best on this site. With few negatives, because no game is perfect, but positives are so overwhelming that this game is just amazing.

Normally I only review completed games but I am going to make an exception for this one as it is one of my two favourite games on this site - both of which are very different. I should probably come and edit this review when the game is completed.

It is a visual novel that scores very highly on a whole number of metrics. The art is very good with a couple of all-time fave character designs (the men look somewhat hit and miss). The writing is excellent, with multiple well-imagined characters, emotional nuance, mystery, drama.

And the game features constant meaningful choices with many different ways scenes can play out, different flavour to relationships, and consequences long after minor decisions were made. The game implicates a choice tag system for remembering what you have done and unlike many other games this extremely rarely results in errors or bugs which is a real testament to quality.

The sexual content is hot, the writing is good. There is some variety, the majority is maledom BDSM. This is good. I would love it if they added some potential for femdom as well but given the story context I can understand why it doesn't fit so well.

I have very few criticisms. Maybe spruce up the MC's face. Possibly neccessary to use a walkthrough (debatable). I just hope that the story is heading towards later chapters and endings as good as the game so far!

The Verdict

One of, if not the best AVN's you'll find. An absolute must-play. 5/5.

The Good

• Outstanding writing that actually feels like you're reading a true visual novel
• Ridiculously hot scenes, made even better with credible writing and great characters
  • That said, you're going to enjoy this the most if you like domination / sadism
  • You can't show me a game that gets more out of HoneySelect than this does. The girls here are amazing, and you WILL have a few you will be thinking about long after you finish playing
• I never thought I'd play a meta-AVN, but here we are. The themes of this game force the player to consider how they would act given total power and control, like one has when playing the game
• There is a rich web of choices, characters, and decisions here that make it feel like you're playing with agency rather than watching a movie. Not all of the loops are closed yet, but I have no doubt that the developers have a vision for this game that will make it that much better as the story unfolds.

The Bad

• It's possible to lock yourself out of some of the best routes here on accident. I'd recommend having the walkthrough up to avoid it, which is a sad but necessary disservice to the quality of writing here.

The Ugly

• There is a scene early on in this game that I found so disgusting I turned the game off and avoided it for months before coming back, and even after multiple playthroughs I really don't understand why it's there:
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  . Don't let it stop you from enjoying this masterpiece.

This game stands out as the pinnacle of my experience on the site. It excels in many aspects, capturing my attention in a way that few others have managed. For the first time, I find myself genuinely invested in the outcomes, despite having explored numerous games here. The decisions hold genuine weight, and the characters react in ways that feel authentic, adding a layer of realism to the fantastical setting of a porn game.

This balance between realism and fantasy grounds the experience, making it more immersive. While some themes may push boundaries beyond my personal comfort zone, they are largely optional. What sets this game apart is its encouragement of moral introspection—a feature I haven't encountered elsewhere on the site. Additionally, the artwork is exceptional, matched by the quality of the dialogue throughout.

Why the fuck is the writing so good

I was here for the fun and games and now I feel like this game could break my heart.
I mean I'm just repeating what everyone's already said but damn I had a need to praise the effort put into this. The renders are great, the UI and additional stuff works great, it's all so dang good but damn, the aesthetics only spice up how good the story is. I find myself laughing, feeling sorry for the characters, wanting things to get better for them, being wary of who to trust, getting real careful with my choices...
To the point I could put the story first and the erotic stuff second. Somehow. Because they actually link really well.
Amazing storytelling. But also please don't hurt me.

A lot has been said so I just want to preface this by saying its great and the most impressive porn VN (or whatever the correct term is) I have played. I just want to focus on some things that stood out to me.

The writing's getting praised for a reason—it's well put together, no mistakes, full of colorful and engaging language and genuinely really funny. It's great entertainment that keeps you hooked, even though it's a ton of text. I'll admit I skimmed in the beginning because of the slow start but my recommendation would be to just enjoy the ride because it will get really good once you join the club.

Next the characters. They're much deeper and more fleshed out than I expected. You really get a feel for them. Even seemingly bland or basic characters like Ian turn out to be interesting and surprisingly likable. Their characteristics are so well developed and thought out that it gets hard to even roleplay. Here's a spoiler-free example: your boss confides a big secret and warns you not to tell a Carnation. Despite being repeatedly reminded that the job comes first and the Carnatations will want to manipulate you, and even though I usually play it close to the boss, in this scenario, I found myself instinctively wanting to spill the beans to Carnation because it felt like the right thing to do. It's just hard to play an asshole even though the game offers lots of possibilities in that direction.

Lastly, music. It might not seem like a big deal to some, but I'm genuinely impressed that even after countless hours, it remains enjoyable to listen to. Plus, new tracks keep getting added regularly. There's none of that typical generic porno background music or too often repeated tracks. This game doesnt have music controls, and doesnt need it. All tracks are well selected and fitting.

To wrap things up, and because no review should be solely positive: I found the occasional "sound effects," like slurping noises during scenes, to be rather odd. They only happen sporadically and loop immediately, and honestly, I could have done without them. Additionally, the game's abundance of variables and values makes it quite challenging to play blindly without occasionally checking scores or rewinding due to needing specific amounts of something for certain actions. While this does enhance replay value, and if most variables are utilized in the completed game, I won't have any complaints. However, if you're aiming for a particular outcome it will require lots of specific choices with a walkthrough at hand.

Lastly I would recommend it to anyone who isn't put off by the subject matter or the theme. While it gets dark at times it's never too serious and I can't wait for new content to come.

For me this is one of the best erotic games if not the best that I ever played and that includes Japanese ones

Renders :
uncontestably the best visuals with honey-select in any VN with awesome animations

characters :
the girls are drop dead gorgeous / each girl is unique that ranges from personality to life experiences with great depth to them.
Side characters too each have a story and most have a role to play in the grand scheme of things.

Story :
Very immersive and keeps you guessing each time then you go down the rabbit hole of speculating characters motivation and the consequences of your actions.

Gameplay :
Simple VN easy to play , multiple paths , high replayability

Like a lot of reviews before me this is 5/5 game with awesome engaging devs, I like to thank them and the supporters too for this great game, good luck

Good thing I found out this game last week. It easily rose to my top 3 vn right now and top 5 from all times.

What I love the most is it's not get too crazy in character expansion like many vn nowadays which tend to focus on create more additional characters with shallow to no memorable story at all. The game focus on several main characters only and each storyline is captivating.

It also covers a lot of fetishes, have perfect amount of story writing, especially one to spice up moments, nice amount of story branching, and transition between event/moment is smooth, unlike some games where I felt it's kinda forced, short, or sometimes doesn't make any sense.

Clearly one of the best games right now.

What a great game. Amazing experience. Incredibly well written. Choices in this keep make you carve your own experience, rather than being just a good choice and bad choice. There are a lot of scenes, high quality, models very pretty as well. Just amazing. 10/10

Pale Carnations is on a completely different plane of existence compared to everything else on this site. TD writes circles around all of them. It’s like a Ferrari next to a soapbox derby car made of cardboard. A symphony orchestra next to toddlers banging on pots and pans. Mike Tyson next to a catatonic old man who can’t see and has no arms. If you value writing quality at all, forget any hesitations you have, you need to experience this.

One thing that’s sorely lacking in games on this site is intimacy, and Pale Carnations absolutely nails it. You’d think feel-good harem romance VNs would have an edge in that department, but they somehow miss the mark so hard compared to what I’ve seen here. I just tried one where you have your first sex scene with a girl, and afterwards, you’re just sitting on opposite ends of the couch barely acknowledging each other. You’re telling me that in a VN full of innocent girls hesitant to have sex, no one wants to cuddle or embrace or be close at all? And don’t even get me started on—

What’s that? I shouldn’t be ranting about other VNs? This is a Pale Carnations review? Oh... *ahem*. Anyway, I feel so much more connected to the characters here. And it’s not just within sex scenes. There are some really tender moments outside of that, like getting comforted by Mina as you rest your head in her lap, or hugging Veronica after a harrowing experience at the club. The characters feel real. They’re deep and complex and easy to fall in love with. Sure, there’s a bit of porn logic influencing their decisions, but what else would you expect from an AVN? There’s not an obvious best girl, either—they’re all so good that it’s hard to pick between them.

I appreciate the choices and story branching that Pale Carnations has, too. It’s not an insane amount like a couple of other VNs I like, but it’s nice to have, and the decisions feel impactful. Should you try to angle for a specific girl to win the competition? Is winning the trust of Kathleen worth indulging your worst desires and finding yourself becoming something you don’t like? The branching could be taken further, but to be fair, there’s also a balance to be struck between that and getting updates out. That’s just about the only writing-related element that this isn’t the best at. The prose, the dialogue, the plot, the characters—all brilliantly done.

Oh, and don’t think I forgot about you, GIL! I don’t know much about HS1, but whatever wizardry is going on here makes the visuals look significantly better than other VNs that also use it. The girls and the set pieces all look amazing, but you don’t really need me to tell you that—just see for yourself in the preview images. Beyond that, there’s a remarkable amount of attention to detail in the poses and expressions of the characters. You’ll see it a lot where most devs just phone it in and use the same few images back and forth in a conversation, but not in this VN. GIL does an incredible job bringing TD’s words to life—you really couldn’t ask for a better partner. The animations are very good too, but I think there’s some room for improvement there. I’d like to see more speed and force, and some well-timed slapping sounds would be nice.

Speaking of sound, the tracks are decent and they set the mood pretty well, but they’re probably the weakest part of Pale Carnations considering how good everything else is. That’s more a consequence of budget than anything else, though. I’m sure if these guys could afford licensed tracks, they’d do a great job picking them.

I don’t ever post anything on this site, but in this one case, I just had to. Thank you for this masterpiece, TD and GIL.

Pale Carnations is an absolute recommendation. The game is so good it will actively make you sad that your life isnt filled with the same amount of people in this game.

As others have said, the absolute strong suit is its writing. Its impeccable. While with other games, you had to question the logic or ignore the absolute shitshow that was the dialogue, this game is basically one of the better end of books. I am especially pleased with how much sex/pornography takes the centerpiece of the story, as most other games just facilitate an environment where you CAN have sex, but its always something happening on the sides. Like, you fuck, but the main thing is always this hotel youre gonna manage. The rest is more of a side piece.

That being said, another strong suit is in the characters. Like, you got your varied cast while also having a relatively small "main" cast that you can focus on. Each one feels like a (perverted) person you could meet in the street. I have to truly highlight Hana, who is a character who is actively opposed to the very concept of the game. Which is the most fascinating choice, and it works so well.

Favorites aside, the game is the real package. Lots of high-quality porn, good talks, good fetish, plenty of direction of how things go in the scenes themselves, which paths to take.

The only reason I wouldnt recommend playing is that its not finished. And OH BOY you wish you wouldnt have to wait for the next update after playing through it.

Probably the greatest game I've played on this site.
The visuals of the game are pretty great, the characters design are awesome and visually the sex scene look good.
But that's absolutely not the main quality of this game, like the writing is so good, each character feel so unique and human.
Moreover the game is very diverse and polished.
Overall this game is a masterpiece imo.

I'm not great at deciding such things with any sense of definitiveness but I can say that as of now Pale Carnations is one of, if not actually my favourite lewd game.

Honestly the only real complaint I have with it is the one same issue I have with any game using Honey Select for its renders - the male models are average at best and quite shit at worst. But I can't really hold that against the PC devs.

Big ups for the writing though. Whether Pale Carnations is in fact my #1 of these games is something I might be internally debating for a while but it is - in my opinion at least - the best written. No matter whether it's indulging in vulgarity, waxing poetic or philosophic, engaging in the romantic - whatever the case might be I found the writing engaging across the board.

I cannot recommend the game enough and am presently cursing the fact that I gotta wait to see what happens next.

I've been following and playing this game since the beginning, and as of Ch. 4 Update 4, this game has an actual story; it's straight-up drama, and I want more of it.

Pale Carnations is one of the very few games that shows genuine fucking—like, straight-up feral fucking—and if you're into it, maledom. Not some bitchboy vanilla sex that's over in a minute like you typically see.

When it comes to the characters, the more you read about them, the more you realize just how vibrant and lovely they are. In the first chapters, they're just fuckdolls, really, but after Ch4Up4, I felt like I'm reading a proper romance. I really like these girls; in fact, I like all the characters. There is no character that is annoying or out of place.

It's also turning into a proper role-playing game. Having played the latest update, I've gotta say, I really appreciate that there's no locked path in this game. The choices are clear as day, and so are the consequences. You're encouraged to explore different paths because they do lead to enjoyable places.


I think this is one of the best-written lewd games out there and a must-play if you're into maledom.

To summarize:

• Great characters overall, women and men alike.
• Choices make a difference if you want them to.
• Easy to navigate, and it's only a sandbox when you're in the club.
• Good animations and character models.
• It's got a story now, which is exciting.

The undisputed GOAT of adult games. Amazing, hot scenes. An interesting story with dark themes, well written dialogue, and characters that you will fall in love with. This is the peak of adult games.

1. Sex scenes are fucking top notch
   • +Good variety of fetishes, positions, and girls
   • +A lot of focus on rough sex and ahegao/mindbreak, without pushing too far into an uncomfortable level
   • +MC lasts more than a single round unlike many other games in the genre
2. Characters
   • +Main girls are unique, hot, flawed, and very well written.
   • +Plenty of scenes with each character, little to no blueballing/teasing/slowburn.
   • +I usually prefer having multi/poly/harem relationships in games like these. But the solo routes are so well written. Many of the solo route scenes are romantic, intimate, and really makes you feel so connected to the character for that route.
3. MC
   • +I might be a minority in this, but I really enjoy the MC. He doesn't come off as annoying, pathetic, weak, or too much of a cringey, creepy perv
   • +Really easy to project yourself onto him
   • -- Not really for power fantasy fans that want to be a muscle-bound chad that can kill anyone with a flex of his bicep before he fucks their wife or whatever
   • +-His dances were ridiculous, kinda funny though so I'll let it pass

V. Ch4 update 4

being as old as the dark side of the moon my tastes have had the time to percolate and distill into stabilised taste. i also can now tell within minutes if a game is worth my time. i download and try a lot here but most just get deleted in no time and some get a review if they leave an impression.
this is one i had not tried before despite it's time already here, but i choose as my mood takes to the tags on display. this time i was in the mood.

the art is nothing i have not seen before but is better polished than most using this type. i'm not big on the art side as the N serves my tastes more than the V and only a strong N can make the V even viable to me, even though this is not a VN. i lack an artists eye. needless to say it looked pretty good compared to most.

the writing is exceptional. each character HAS character, utilising different speech and differing expansions of dialogue. outside of an actual novel, very fucking rare here. a certain something writer should try this and see just how something they really are not.
as a novel this is a real pleasure to read, even though the base plot/premise is really not my cup of tea, my own proclivities somewhat vanilla for this, but i do have an expansive imagination
i did expect the sex to be relentless but instead the story plays out with exceptional pacing (yes i used exceptional again, why not? is it my word of the day or just that good?......) so that my the reader has time to blow a hole in a tissue, read through the warm after glow and keep reading in time for the chubby build up again ready for the next tissue. really well done that writer.
i have only read 1 route but the attentiveness to detail looks solid.

and now here is my two gripes. one is for game design and the other is purely the site staff lacking in sense and moderation.

firstly, this is NOT a VN. it is a point and click game made so by the point and click roaming sections. a novel is not free roaming and neither is a visual novel.

secondly, the very annoying unclickable-to-skip transitions. there are too many of them. the jingle started to grate on my nerves at times.

aside from that, all hunky dory. certainly one to revisit once the completed tag gets added and definitely a possible future purchase should it then go to steam (if not already but i never purchase incomplete or early access so no idea, i rarely pay attention to the posted links).
great stuff guys

Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Update 4]

Pros:
+ Character designs are amazing (subjective)
+ Animations are great in all scenes
+ Very high production quality
+ Writing is remarkable, engaging and well paced
+ Choices feel like they matter
+ Character depth and progression is well done
+ Facial expressions are well done in all ways of interaction

Cons:
- Dark themes might not be for everyone


I was hesitant to pick this up at first, and even dropped it at one point without getting far in. Lately, I decided to pick it up again and I found myself pleasantly surprised. With every update the game adds layers of depth to the story and character emotions and background, as well as with character relationships.

There's a lot of action so you won't be left feeling blue, but it doesn't feel shallow. Rather, it feels kind of like a slow burn in how you build up relationships with characters, all of them. Every relationship takes time and a build of up interactions, not just a single candlelight dinner or a wine and dine romp session that will make your partner(s) ride or die with you. No, there's a lot more to it than that, a lot more depth.

This game became kind of like a guilty pleasure for me. I really like it even though it contains a lot of sadomasochism themes that normally don't interest me at all. However, the characters and the overarching plot, regardless of the path choices you make, are very engaging and the writing is very well done.

Worth checking out and giving a chance, even if you might not be interested in some underlying themes.

Overall Rating: 10/10