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Shame, the game had beautiful characters. Thanks for the update
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- Apr 25, 2020
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I lol'd. Thank youStill nothing comes up,
Bella keeps hoping that something will move,Nami keeps pulling on it,
even with Vic's and Mila's boob jobs it doesn't work..
Hopefully the loads of Viagra pills and the therapy sessions will work,
otherwise he should really have himself castrated..
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Well that also has to do with the setting i am tired of the MC in a house with his landlady and 1-2 female roommates, i can no longer even try out games like that.
Which is fine there have been a lot more games that explore stuff beyond that, it's no longer 2019, there a lot more games with a more interesting fantasy or sci-fi settings.
I mean Willy isnt great either but thats mostly because he looks like Great Khali. If there is one thing about Ocean is that he is unable to make a normal looking MC, my only choices are between Sasuke and the guy who won the WWE championship in 2007.
- May 26, 2021
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You're on a website dedicated to adult games- drop the "holier-than-thou" attitude bud.
It would be akin to commenting under a video on pornhub explaining why there's no sex even after THAT long.
It was the developer's prerogative not to put any adult scenes in an adult game, which is a weird choice no matter how you look at it. They could have made it make sense but consciously chose to release an entire season with none of the relative content- something that oughta be there given the nature of the work. OR they simply could have extended the season a little until there was one.
IMO the Nami path would have actually been ideal for it, ending the season with a romantic "love-making" session would have been perfect given all the development between them, a sort of a 'finale'.
if the game comes across as focused on lewds more than characters or story id agree. Otherwise I never expect lewds from any AVN until it feels right or makes sense based on the context. SG even without the warning about no lewds I wouldn't be expecting lewds or sex. Especially given the context of the game even if some of the lewds I always thought were put in there randomly for no reason like the ones in the Gym. It would honestly feel rushed but with that said yeah Nami would make sense with the context of the MC's problem or going down on Bella , if he did want to insert some.
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summers gone for a game that is suppose to not focus on lewds and womens bodies and only focus on story ,it certanly does focus on womens asses in tight pants and their clevege of their breats and even on the steam version which is suppose to have very little nudes, it shows a lot of nami's ass in the thongs and mila's ass in the shower and outside of victorias house with the MC and at the gym and bella's breats and ass naked at ton of times and it says in the tags barely any nudity or slightly any nudity, but maybe everybody is blind but i seen a shit load of nudity as of now, just a observation for a game that is suppose to be a Visual novel not a Adult visual novel as it is advertised on steam, and wasn't it rated for 16+ i might add.
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i just played and re-played the latest version then i played the chapter 5 beta version with the decensored mod and now i can 100% conclude that Ocean is a fucking moron. holy crap is Ocean afraid of boobs now? this game should be renamed "Classes with Bella", i cant get rid of this bitch. in what world would any1 accuse somebody of breaking and entering without proof? the whole plot mila getting sued is retarded. why would Ocea release this mess on steam? it clear that the game needs better editing and polish.
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I am not sure, but hopefully soon, because the story makes no sense to me, with them being roomies, why is it illegal to date a roomie, I know many roommates in college that dated, So I can't play this till the patch comes out, because it makes the Nami relationship make no sense to me without the patch, so hopefully soon, I have been waiting for a week.
yeah I hope it's out by time I want to play the rework won't stop me from buying it and playing it on steam when im ready but would make it better one of the few games I feel I actually need the I patch.
For me it seems that a new LI, if she appear twice, i believe that ocean has a plan for her, like the friend of sasha in chapter oneCleary it's Blurry Cheeto.
Edit : joking no idea.
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Leia and Bella are both broken and flawed but Leia's criminal activities are graver than Bella's. Bella damages only herself with her illegal racing (more on this later) while Leia hurts many lives. That's why Ocean treats Leia differently and why people are harsher with her. Even if she shows a human side she is infinitely more immoral than Bella, it makes her less likeable and harder to redeem. People love Bella exactly for that, her ongoing redemption arc.
Vanessa deceived Bella when she pretended to be a ditz, remember? She sensed that something was off about Bella to be fair and protected herself from a perceived harm. We've seen Vanessa twice, but we can judge her from that. She's not a robot but she has displayed mostly cunning, a comedic disdain for her sister and a great deal of affability when interacting with Nami. This last Nami bit is what makes her look most dangerous, she is apt at understanding how people work so that she can get closer with them and use them later. Don't let me mention her clear dislike for Noji, Vanessa thinks she’s taking advantage of Nick like she's some social climber and golddigger.
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Regarding Bella and the illegal racing which is something unrelated but worth mentioning, I don't think Bella races simply for the adrenaline rush and cause she enjoys it. When she races it's an act born out of spite against life itself for what happened to her sister, in doing so she completely disregards her own safety. I can see her getting involved in a car accident at some point (despite our warnings) and reevaluate her whole life.
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I dunno, like, I like Summer's Gone, I like the characters and writing, competition for BaD (main other that's popular, long term and good) in particular is good to make both of them strive to be better, HOWEVER, to be bluntly honest
On the sex, there's a weird rift in the fans, where you have "lol incel" or "TF FOOK NOW" as the most vocal, but the middle ground to me is, ok, they've been forward about a slow burn, people know what they're paying for, and I'm sure it's been talked about but the censorship is particularly weird regardless. It was just to get music contracts in at the end of the day, but it's still marked as adults only on steam, and all the preview screenshots are almost hyper titted characters naked and doing yoga, sitting in the tub. All wallpaper dlc is official adult fan art, but everything sexual in the first 15 hours was altered/removed, when the main character's primary arc involves a sexual trait and trauma? Like, there's "slow burn", and then there's doing censorship to the levels of removing sex and just putting "then they went into their room and hugged" while big ole tiddies is all over the previews. BUT, this is not a sex exclusive thing, not a "lol thirsty incel", it's the plot of the game being altered to get, bluntly and harsh I admit, affordable indie hipster music for background tracks, and I'm not knowledgeable about contracts or terms, but I mean is any company or artist you have to change adult content for going to be ok with sequels actually having it? This is what, part 1 of like 6 or so? If artists don't want to be affiliated with adult games, I really don't see how they'd see no problem with being in a series where the other 100 or so hours is fully adult. If someone hated violence and gore they probably still wouldn't endorse the first Muv Luv for example.
On characters, as has been said, he's bit off more than he can chew. Right now it's hard I'm sure but fine, (even though a common complaint is the first part is largely Bella and the side girls), but going forward it's going to be harder and harder, and by the time of like chap 20+, something's going to give somewhere. BaD to compare goes off like 4 "routes", and depending on the girl you pick, you wind up doing different stuff in different areas, not something like always following the same story but then you can choose to have a coffee date with a, b, c, d, e etc. At a stretch, BaD has like MAYBE 8 li, realistically 6, summer's gone has 12 listed so far. BaD dev is slow, jokes are made about it taking like 10 years frequently, but summer's gone is closer to either charitably grr martin or less so early onset yandev. if he really pursues all characters with the same effort as the remakes of past content, then the time frame is ludicrous. people seem to put half their paychecks on patreons that post a screenshot a month and "im working today" posts and eat it up so I guess he nor them care, and if it's actually made in like 20 years or so that's cool I guess, but the fanbase isn't even going to be the same generation. I guess social security can go to patreon too though.
Just weird though how, if second game onward is "actually" adult, then he pissed off fans and rewrote/made a portion of 15 hours so he could struggle to get indie music, while second game on in like a 6 game series would require entirely different music. That's weird, and I hope it's not storm clouds showing, with something like possibly, even though there's hyper titted yoga in tight skinsuits, being closely monitored to avoid anything too sexual for music contracts.
The sex in general has fractured the fan base though, it started as a slow burn where IDEALLY by the end of the first episode you'd have some sex, or fantasy sex as an appetizer, but with all the alterations there's now people going on like "um ackshully it'd be fine without it, maybe just one scene a girl like 50 hours in", who apparently have read zero female oriented popular novels. If it actually does like Mushoku Tensei does (character gets ed from trauma after li leaves, eventually its fixed by other li and drugs, then onward maximum horny) then it'd give to the audience what was advertised. I just hope it doesn't move to softcore with any sexual content given on the side as downloadable screenshots instead of naturally in the story. li having sexual encounters to try and "fix" mcs problem really should have been left in, with a few relationships already being pretty invested and a couple being known long term, and them being of age, it would have been perfectly timed in a story to have the "low" point of not being able to get it up still, then the second actually solving the problem with them. which again, he originally had written and made, too. and thats for a story where actual hardcore sex would be off screen, let alone a game with it as a selling point.
On the sex, there's a weird rift in the fans, where you have "lol incel" or "TF FOOK NOW" as the most vocal, but the middle ground to me is, ok, they've been forward about a slow burn, people know what they're paying for, and I'm sure it's been talked about but the censorship is particularly weird regardless. It was just to get music contracts in at the end of the day, but it's still marked as adults only on steam, and all the preview screenshots are almost hyper titted characters naked and doing yoga, sitting in the tub. All wallpaper dlc is official adult fan art, but everything sexual in the first 15 hours was altered/removed, when the main character's primary arc involves a sexual trait and trauma? Like, there's "slow burn", and then there's doing censorship to the levels of removing sex and just putting "then they went into their room and hugged" while big ole tiddies is all over the previews. BUT, this is not a sex exclusive thing, not a "lol thirsty incel", it's the plot of the game being altered to get, bluntly and harsh I admit, affordable indie hipster music for background tracks, and I'm not knowledgeable about contracts or terms, but I mean is any company or artist you have to change adult content for going to be ok with sequels actually having it? This is what, part 1 of like 6 or so? If artists don't want to be affiliated with adult games, I really don't see how they'd see no problem with being in a series where the other 100 or so hours is fully adult. If someone hated violence and gore they probably still wouldn't endorse the first Muv Luv for example.
On characters, as has been said, he's bit off more than he can chew. Right now it's hard I'm sure but fine, (even though a common complaint is the first part is largely Bella and the side girls), but going forward it's going to be harder and harder, and by the time of like chap 20+, something's going to give somewhere. BaD to compare goes off like 4 "routes", and depending on the girl you pick, you wind up doing different stuff in different areas, not something like always following the same story but then you can choose to have a coffee date with a, b, c, d, e etc. At a stretch, BaD has like MAYBE 8 li, realistically 6, summer's gone has 12 listed so far. BaD dev is slow, jokes are made about it taking like 10 years frequently, but summer's gone is closer to either charitably grr martin or less so early onset yandev. if he really pursues all characters with the same effort as the remakes of past content, then the time frame is ludicrous. people seem to put half their paychecks on patreons that post a screenshot a month and "im working today" posts and eat it up so I guess he nor them care, and if it's actually made in like 20 years or so that's cool I guess, but the fanbase isn't even going to be the same generation. I guess social security can go to patreon too though.
Just weird though how, if second game onward is "actually" adult, then he pissed off fans and rewrote/made a portion of 15 hours so he could struggle to get indie music, while second game on in like a 6 game series would require entirely different music. That's weird, and I hope it's not storm clouds showing, with something like possibly, even though there's hyper titted yoga in tight skinsuits, being closely monitored to avoid anything too sexual for music contracts.
The sex in general has fractured the fan base though, it started as a slow burn where IDEALLY by the end of the first episode you'd have some sex, or fantasy sex as an appetizer, but with all the alterations there's now people going on like "um ackshully it'd be fine without it, maybe just one scene a girl like 50 hours in", who apparently have read zero female oriented popular novels. If it actually does like Mushoku Tensei does (character gets ed from trauma after li leaves, eventually its fixed by other li and drugs, then onward maximum horny) then it'd give to the audience what was advertised. I just hope it doesn't move to softcore with any sexual content given on the side as downloadable screenshots instead of naturally in the story. li having sexual encounters to try and "fix" mcs problem really should have been left in, with a few relationships already being pretty invested and a couple being known long term, and them being of age, it would have been perfectly timed in a story to have the "low" point of not being able to get it up still, then the second actually solving the problem with them. which again, he originally had written and made, too. and thats for a story where actual hardcore sex would be off screen, let alone a game with it as a selling point.
Since I have a feeling that no patch will come for the Season 1 release from where it used to come from, I've started doing one. This will take time though, considering how I'm doing it, comparing scripts between Season 1 and the latest patch for Chap 5 Beta so all dialog changes and fixes are incorporated into the new patch. Not to mention new scenes to take care of. Chapter 1 is done, 4 more to go but chapter 1 was quick to do...
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To be honest, I miss the font more than his dick. Unlike his dick in future seasons the font won't make a comebackStill nothing comes up,
Bella keeps hoping that something will move,Nami keeps pulling on it,
even with Vic's and Mila's boob jobs it doesn't work..
Hopefully the loads of Viagra pills and the therapy sessions will work,
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There was one actual lewd scene with a semi erect penis that's been cut, and a couple of scenes with full frontals that have been tamed. Otherwise, it's the same, it's still blue balled, just no blue ball warning simply because it's 16+, and by definition, 16+ has no depicted sex. So people have been going crazy trying to say that something that has never existed in the game (sex scenes) have been cut.
If you've played it at all before, it's basically the same, but there's less of a psycho as a main character, but now he has better dialogue, and there's a lot more story/events than before. There is also far far more nudity than the Ch2 release.
Season 2 will be 18+ and the first episode should* be released by the end of the year after the next WiaB release.
*disclaimer: Ocean's timelines are not know for being accurate
We get that you don't like the MC. You can't make a compelling argument for why he is the worst. Just quote your opinion as your opinion, it's fine. For me, I identify far more with Nika or Willi than with Faceless McSleeprapist Brodick in any number of AVNs. It doesn't mater if they come across as parody. Simple fact is that subjectively, everyone connects with different characters.
You're predisposed to not liking certain things because he rubs you the wrong way? Completely fine. You can rationalise your preferences? Also fine. Projecting it as some sort of objective critique, you shouldn't be surprised that people liking Nika as a character reject your premise. I don't have to rationalise why I like his character more than Faceless McSleeprapist Brodick and co, but my simple take is not everyone want parody, but we're all after a little escapism, and we all look for characters we can sympathise with.
I want the guy to work out how to use a dick without being one. Weird, but that's me.
You should check out the 22 pages worth of games listed with no sexual content on the site. Sure ~ 650 games isn't much, but there are ~650 games that aren't intended to ever have sexual content. SG is not in the category, it just hasn't stopped blueballing us yet. The reasons for this have been explained repeated, either you believe them or you don't.
A sex scene with Nami before Nika gets to the core of his problem in therapy with Amber cuts off that part of the story. What if Nami is partly responsible for his dead libido? He mental wants to get excited, to be normal, but brain chemistry doesn't spark. I'd rather get all that explained than rush to a porn scene for a token lewd. Let's be honest, if there was one sex scene, all the other LI would be jealous, and the other LI fans would be screaming foul.
You're right. My take is that Ocean tries to play the middle and makes no one happy. Overly sexualising characters while blueballing sets up expectations in the players minds. But he also wants to develop the reason for Nika's lack of libido, and the SG series over all will be adult, so it's gotta lay at least some expectations. The payoff for people who want lewds and can't be bothered with the story or the characters probably isn't worth it for another 6 months.
That's my favourite question at the moment. She (and Sasha's redhead friend) are the two characters I want to know about the most.
Current theory of mine is that she is looking at Nami's earring here, not at Nami. She also appears to show more interest in Nami than in Nika. She's on the bus the next morning after the heist, and you see her in the college hall if you don't train with Jeff, both before and after class. If you do train with Jeff, she's still there but blurry.
As to who she is, I wonder if she's maybe Leia's daughter, or one of Ayua's cousins/sisters, as she seems to be interested in the earring.
Some of my replies to other posters above cover this, so I'll try not to waste your time with things I've already said. Basically a player has to decide whether the story and characters are compelling enough to be patient and see how season 2 develops. I can understan some people feel they've waited enough, but ultimately, people who enjoy the story will wait for more of what they like. People who like lewds are impatient, because they've got nothing to help them wait. WiaB has lewds at the appropriate style Ocean will include, so I feel pretty confident that when the lewds happen, they'll both fit and be high quality.
Part of the build of of overtly sexualised images and characters is to highlight that Nika isn't like a horny teeanger. Everyone notices it. Currently, without it leading to actual sex it feel forced. But I mean, that's the point - Bella's trying to get a response, Nami's trying to get a response. If we know there will be multiple lewd events somewhere in season 2, this is a build up. It's just longer than people are used to waiting.
Regards the music, when Ocean licensed these tracks originally, there was no restrictions. The third party doing the licensing (between the artist and the dev) changed their terms when Ocean had to renew. He's now bought permanent licenses to prevent the terms being changed, and cut the music that was too problematic license wise. So I think it will be fine going forward. He'll also be more selective and license music directly with the artists going forward so corporate can't get their dodgy agreements in the middle.
As far as continuity goes, he just needs to find music in the style of... for subsequent seasons. There is so much content available he should be able to find something he likes that inspires him. THe challenge is finding the time to find music he likes that WILL license it to him. Or he risks creative commons, which might return to bite him in the bum. It's better to have the license commercial as it helps minimise the changes to the terms in the long run.
Again the lewd scenes will happen. If you follow a romantic path, I don't expect you'll get to see all the content - ie Bella might be fine with you kissing Vic, but if she finds out you and Mila have done something, she'll probably withold sex.
Just let the story develop at it's pace, and I'm pretty sure we'll see mainly softcore for the next season, because we've got to remember Nika is a virgin. Maybe Bella, Mila or Nia will be the first to teach him? Maybe there is super awkward sex with Nami as they both have no experience? I don't expect him to perform like a stud in the next season at all, it wouldn't make sense. I can also imagine Bella being left unsatisfied when he's premature once it works. There's going to be a while before he can build up his endurance, so I guess there will be some practice required...
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Honestly the first time Vanessa appeared on screen I instantly didn't like her or trusted her just the way she looked , dressed and overall appearance and all with how she entered the scene for the first time. My gut feeling was right cause during the scene where Nikia was changing clothes and Vanessa was in the same room that gave me major red flag vibes to not trust her and keep far away as possible. Granted I have no real proof of any wrong doing with her actions yet to truly dislike her but man with how calculating and manipulative she is with her words makes me dislike her even more and want to be extremely cautious.
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I dont get why people get this defensive over me not liking a MC of an adult game of all things. I already explained why i dont like him and funny enough some of the people agreed with some of the things i said they just dont view it as much of a problem as i do, which is fine if that's the case.
You know its funny cause people will unironically say "Nika is fine, identify as him, you cant make an argument for why he is the worst, at least he isn't a rapist" and have zero self awareness of what they just said lol.
Sure dude i am certain some people connected with Peter Griffin too.
The rest of your post is just conjecture so i wont even bother i will just say it's fine if you like the protagonist the way he is, you dont have to justify yourself and it's fine if you wanna think i just irrationally hate this one MC for no objective reason lol.