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I don't think so (not using it but I think I read that it doesn't work?) if I am wrong, correct my dumb ass.
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I'm just not sure Nika would interact will Mila the same in our "alternate scenario" without Nami's presence on that first day. You mention Nika first met Mila with Trey, but he also abandoned them moments later without warning. i still contend - no Nami, no Nika joining the group on the sports field.
Both Jeff and Mila recognize that Nika is broken and sympathize because of that. Yet, if Nika interacted with them alone initially and gave them the cold shoulder treatment, at what point would Jeff and Mila just say, "F^^k this!" and stay away from him?
...and, yes, I know this is only a game and we are discussing hypotheticals. Nevertheless, this conversation is pushing me toward a greater appreciation of Nami, no matter what (as yet undeclared) bad shit she did in the past.
I see Sasha as the opposite of Vic.It’s different with Sasha. Say Amber and Nick, they’re open minded people, they don’t care that Nika comes from an ordinary family. We haven’t met Sasha’s family but they give the opposite impression, she has a bodyguard and admits to feeling oppressed. I assume a similar dynamic as with Summer’s parents will develope with Sasha’s family, where they’ll disapprove of Nika and make it harder for the two of them to be together.
It was mentioned a couple days back that Sasha might move far away in the future. Maybe cause her parents don’t want her to associate with Nika anymore and use that ploy to keep them apart.
But love will find a way for me to reunite with her
Outta reactionsThank god Sasha’s boobs don’t look nothing like Vic’s, more like Vic lost the lottery
Vic will apparently gravitate toward Nika even if he remains a total asshole. I expect she's "made" that way to be the universal throuple enabler.
On the other hand, I cannot see Sasha showing romantic interest in Nika if he remains an asshole (I don't believe she would reject him for lack of wealth or social standing if she fell in love).
Outside of that, I think things said by Sasha (her personal interpretation of the Panda/Butterfly story) in the bookclub scene do set up a later scenario where she could become romantically attracted to a non-asshole Nika, but they find resistance to their coupling from her family. Having said that, a lot will depend on Nika's true origins (i.e. his parents)... whatever they may be.
ADDITION: Sasha's interpretation of the Panda-Butterfly story:
"But they both come from different places, grew up with different socializations and... Opposites can attract each other. But I don't see a future for them. And yet, they never lost hope. They go against what's deemed morally accepted. They do what they want... What they think is right... No matter who might dare to lay rules upon them."
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Speaking of Sasha I don't know why but after that scene with her in the book club helping the Nika. I get the feeling once you get to know her she will end up being a nicer and maybe even a better person than Victoria who is a sweetheart already.
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which is obvious to me that Mika and Sasha are, let's say, in the slander phase. On the surface they show their dislike for each other, but in short scenes their sympathy for each other briefly emerges.
Furthermore, I don't think Mika's origins will be the problem. Some evidence suggests that Nika (and Nami) come from very well-known houses.
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That's the problem, bro. Every new "critic" of the game, coming to this thread, for some reason considers themself a unique, inimitable snowflake that everyone should admire. From the outside it seems that you guys consider yourself missionaries in a pagan land, bringing the Light of Truth to these lost souls.
Unfortunately, I have to disappoint you. Everything you say has been discussed and re-discussed hundreds of times here and many people in this thread are simply tired of reading the same complaints for several years.
You can say: "if you don’t want to, don’t read, this is a public forum and I will write what I want as long as I remain within the forum rules." And I completely agree with you, give you a thumbs up and maybe even send you a sticker with a virtual beer. But there's just one thing. I am also on a public forum and will express my opinion in the same free way without any restrictions, with the exception of forum rules. And my opinion is the opposite of yours.
This is where the fun begins. You guys are very switft to criticize and give unfounded advice to the dev on how he should make his game, but suddenly you become so vulnerable and hurt when someone disagrees with you or tells you that they don't care what you think. You immediately move into defensive stance and start blaming those who disagree with you for limiting your ability to voice your criticism (I wonder how they can do this, no one except the moderators seems to have the right to edit or delete your posts.) You begin to call us, those who disagree with you, critics haters fanbois, zealots, ass-lickers, cock-gobblers. And sometimes you throw even the most terrible accusation of one of the deadly sins - defending the developer!
Since you mentioned these people who care enough to find this forum and will repeat points when they exist, and I think you are one of them, what I wrote above is just a boring repetition of myself, since I want you to understand where I'm coming from. I usually don't see any point in this discussion, since those who start it just want to throw shit on the fan. Therefore, I quietly put them on ignore and we coexist perfectly in this thread, without talking or noticing each other. But you seem to have joined this thread recently and are apparently sincerely surprised by such a reaction to your post.
Nice. What Ocean thinks, you can ask him, but as one of those who like his games and who you apparently call his "fans" (I swear I don't have his merch t-shirt!) I can answer that question for you on the part addressed to the "fans".
First, spit in the lying faces of those who told you that I want to avoid "sex when"-ers. I don't give a damn about them, they can expect what they want, these are their own expectations, not what the developer promised. Read this if you haven't yet
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Second. It’s much funnier that you understand this perfectly well, but since he’s not going to give you sex scenes in the first season, you demand from the developer that he make the girls less attractive, dress them in less provocative and erotic clothes and forbid them to wag their asses. What the hell, dude? Have you decided to create a morality police for us here?
You can't handle the teasing and flirting from beautiful girls, that's your problem, you can just close your eyes and run away from here. Yep, these girls love to wear provocative dresses, one of them is even a cam girl. This doesn't mean she'll give you some just because she looks slutty to you.
Oh man. Of course you can express whatever you want, criticism, complaints, wishes, whatever. But this is not enough for you, you also need others to agree with you and not show you their irritation, disagreement, or simply lack of any interest in your opinion. That's the problem with all local critics, they don't mind the echo chamber, they want it, they just don't like what it sounds like now.
Most people are annoyed not by the "criticism," but the endless repetition of the same complaints every day, without breaks or days off. What are you, guys, trying to achieve, hypnotize those who like the game? A sneaky trick, lads.
I mean, what you call critics, I consider nothing more than complaints. Criticism presupposes a constructive position, a willingness to find a solution that suits all interested parties. You guys are just pushing your agenda: “We want porn! We don't care about developer quirks about plot, relationship building, characters development, coherence of the story, music, whatever. Dev just makes lame excuses for blueballing us. Give us some pussy! Immediately! Sex or GTFO!"
Okay, you know better than Ocean what his game should look like, how the plot should develop, how he should handle lewd content.It's bullshit, but I pretend to believe it. Well, what next? We are pathetic fanbois, of course, so here we discuss the game, admire the screenshots, praise Ocean and do all these things that fanbois are supposed to do.
So what about you? Well, you wrote something you don’t like in the game, gave the dev some virtual lessons of how he should approach to the game making, complained about the lack of understanding and unprogressiveness of the residents of the thread. That's all? I'm not convinced to change my mind and join the crusade against Ocean. But if you would go to the Ocean's Discord and convince him to change the game the way you want, or create a crowdfunding project "The Real Summer's Gone" with all these blackjack and hookers you talked about, then sure, that would be very convincing!
But instead, in the meantime, you are simply suggesting that those who do not agree with your complaints get out of this thread to his Discord. Thanks pal, but we're good.
And the last thing, if you’ve read this far, of course. To be honest, I don’t really understand why you wrote all this in response to the Mr_Mister's post? He seems to be the opposite, speaking out against those who are against complaining about the lack of sex.
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Why not? I'm sure most people treat these DLCs simply as an opportunity to support Ocean and the soundtrack artists (iirc he wrote that he splits revenue from music DLCs with them 50/50)
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For all those poor fellas arguing about virtual and nonexistent ladies:
You will get some You will wait though, because this galaxy is fap fap away.
You will get some
You will wait though, because this galaxy is fap fap away.
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if you're still alive by then
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Am I the only one that thinks Amber's sister Claire looks weird? like, the head does not belong on the body it is currently connected to. I also thought that she looked like Amber herself. It just could be my eyes playing tricks or her hairstyle, but look
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Good things are like fine wine - they take time to matureif you're still alive by then
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There are bad acts and there are stupid acts. The heist, the use of Vanessa, and their "brilliant" plan to destroy the Holgerson family are mostly stupid acts, but that doesn't make them any less malicious. No doubt, if Vanessa had turned out to be that dumbo bimbo, they would have tried to put their plan into action.
The Mila situation, before which Nika is already plotting his revenge, is his excuse. Bella doesn't care about her and isn't close to him when she agrees to the plan. Her excuses are Amber and blind hatred.
There is no evidences that Stefan desires her mother or that he is a pedophile. Bella throws around serious accusations without adding any value to them even in the form of arguments. She accuses Stefan of being a pedophile, but does so in such a short form and never returns to it again though this pedophile socialises with her mother. Someone will find it unreasonable for me to focus so much attention on this moment, but I have a suspicion that this is a bait for trusting players. It's like thoughts just pop up in her mind as excuses for more hate. This makes her descriptions of other characters less trustworthy, this also applies to her description of Vanessa. Overall, even if Stefan lusts after Amber, their plan remains horrible.
Bella knows that Vanessa is Zara's sister who is her classmate and former friend. She doesn't mind using her anyway. Despite the fact that Vanessa has nothing to do with what is going on between them and the Holgersons. She's just Mario's girlfriend, she is innocent in this part of the story.
But no extra thought. Let's just do it.
For some reason, Bella feels no remorse for these acts. How so? She's a better person, she felt so sorry when she humiliated that poor woman in the restroom. What an interesting, selective sense of conscience she has. It feels like as long as Bella's atrocities don't involve her personally and aren't committed in front of her, she's fine with them. After all, she is afraid the old pervert will seduce her mother, but she is alright with giving him the other woman. That alone is completely fucked up. So no, she doesn't see the error in her ways yet. She's totally blind.
Nika who functions as her conscience remains silent on that matter too and only sounds the alarm when they are at risk being fucked by Vanessa for their imbecility. What a great man, literally a messiah who appeared to guide Bella on the right path... with a blindfold and on his hands so she would not see that they were walking over people's heads. He should look in the mirror and take the beam out of his eye. What a hypocritical, brainless piece of shit. I love it. His view on Bella is biased, has no real weight and indicates nothing significant about real changes. The same goes for his self-view.
I must have made a mistake when I placed William but not Nika after Leia. Good for Nick that her daughter is so suspicious. Who knows what other scumbags might be on their doorstep next time.
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I want to especially emphasise that they're not learning any lessons from the situation with Vanessa. Their plan fails, they shrug their shoulders and move on. They will do it again if a suitable target comes to hand.
Bella studied the Holgersons house before the events. She knows the layout of the building and the exact positions of the security cameras. She was preparing to break into their property. And this isn't her first heist, she has experience.
I never called her a villian. But I consider her a terrible person.
After writing that all, I'm not even sure she's better than Vanessa.
The plot should hit her not because she does bad things in the first place, but because she does things that by common sense should have far-reaching consequences. She's a criminal, she broke the law, she crossed powerful people. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Consequences are not necessarily punishment for bad actions and are not necessarily justified. But since this is a story about healing, I suppose these consequences must have some moral basis.
Now you seem to agree with me on that. But earlier you wrote, "She doesn’t deserve to be punished further for her actions, her guilt is enough punishment." And then you continued to press the point that she has regrets and feelings. You didn't call it a "magic bubble" but that's essentially what follows from what you were saying.
Good storytelling? Can't say yet.
I hope Ocean understands what he writes.
Because if he doesn't... bruh.
BobTheDuck,
Are we still certain Vanessa is a more bad person than Bella?
Personally I'm not sure now. It seems Bella has a very rich list.
Oh, I forgot, she has regrets. Which she turns off whenever she pleases.
But seriously. She literally planned to corrupt a woman and destroy a family.
Where's the lesser evil here? Yes, Vanessa shoved a buttplug in Mario's ass.
How? We can only make assumptions. Unlike with Bella.
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*He's not wrong!* The book does suck. But it's meant to suck, because Nika is going to right Charlotte's wrong, and allow Susan, porn author extraordinaire, to choose the book.
On a more serious note, I wonder how many people misconstrue scenes like this. The bookclub is MEANT to be filled with women bored out of their mind because they don't have husbands, or husbands who can sex. They make us a pass time to read books, and drink waaay too much wine (every time asked *sex when* they drink, and somewhere in the Oceanverse a kitten dies, so stop saying *sex when* pussy haters!). Nika comes along and he is so much more interesting. They don't know he can't sex them either, but the actual enjoyment for them is fantasizing about sex in even kids books, so Nika looks like the tastiest prize they can imagine.
Same sort of thing with the tabletop. Some of it is meant to point out how socially awkward Nadia is, how she is disconnected like Nika, but for very different reasons. We've not seen any of her trauma, but it's hinted at. I know there's something there, but what it is I can't even guess.
Bella's content has the most action, more locations, more danger/consequences. I think that's one reason why people find her interesting, while the other characters are quite passive (other than Vanessa). TO some extent, they're curious to see how NIka might bring some difference into their lives, just as he's trying to find some sort of social balance. Perhaps they'll meet in the middle, while NIka and Bella, being the same puzzle piece goad each other into recklessness (mostly)
Do you just want me to die before season 2 comes out? Damn dude, I guess we'll all win at this game by collecting all the wine...
No. The current uncensor patch/mod is for the Ch5 Beta, it won't work on the steam version. If you want to see the hot tub, you have to play the incomplete version of the season.
The jacuzzi lewd scene was removed for reasons other than Steam, which you can search the thread for. If you want any sexual act displayed, you'll have to wait for season 2 or deal with WIP versions of SG. There is only the official version now, which is the same on patreon and steam; I won't bore you with the reasons.
Again well thought. Bella does have one extenuating circumstance though, she is not of a balanced mind. The ease with which Nika can trigger her, and her reaction to kissing Nika shows her instability. That might affect any sentencing should their be legal action. Amber's reluctance to get objective help for Bella, but trusting her own mother's skills and therapist skills is blinded by her being a mother. This is not to excuse anything, but to consider mitigating circumstances, and how Ocean might spin things. Also, it would be easy for Stefan to be magnaimous about Bella, but he wouldn't be over NIka, considering he is evil. He pulled strings to charge Mila, with no proof, simply because Mario likes teasing her? Maybe there's more there - not saying that Bella is honest or dishonest, but Stefan has attempted to ruin Mila for what reason? The same logic you're applying to Bella extends to Stefan.
We don't have enough info to absolve Stefan, but you're right that Bella and Nika have no justification. Because it's pertinent, the only reason this event even exists is because Mario called Mila trash. She shrugged it off, like most of us would, and got on with her life.
Going back to Bella's instability, what if Ocean is using the scene to highlight how reckless and unstable Bella and Nika are? Maybe they are forgiven by Stefan or someone more powerful steps in and takes control of the situation - someone like Katie. Having rescued Nika from Stefan's anger, Nika would have to agree with whatever terms were put in front of him. There are so many potential ways to spin this without there being equal and opposite reactions, I'm thinking more like billards, and everything starts spiraling, the 8 ball gets sunk in the wrong pocket, putting NIka in someone's headlights, and he'll be beholden.
Bella is broken in ways Nika isn't. We're almost considering Nika the only mentally challenged person, but Bella is wildly unstable, and that's why Ayua is so concerned about Bella doing something bad as a result of being triggered. Bella is like a child that will never understand not to put her hand on the stove.
Regarding Vanessa. Slightly different tack. She is not doing anything illegal, but that doesn't make her good. She is actually able to play games to manipulate others into doing her will. Not illegal, but definitely evil. in tabletop terms, she's lawful evil. She understand the benefits of masking her intentions. She is also completely aware and consciously doing it. Some of the renders show how cold she is when no one is looking at her - she is calculating everything, making plans as much as Nika. Currently there is no proof of anything, but she does have Dr Evil bragging vibes when she claims to know all about Ms Steiner. So, yeah, Bella is a criminal that doesn't have much of a moral compass, Vanessa uses people's expectations to manipulate them constantly. I still dislike her regardless of whether she is innocent of any wrong doing. I wouldn't want a friend who would manipulate me for their own benefit. In this way, she doesn't actually care about people. She might care about Nick, but Nick is warning her to behave all the time. Everyone knows she's going too far, Zara knows it, Nick knows it.
Anyway, we've known Vanessa for less than 24 hours game time. It's not enough to have a definitive view, despite my misgivings. She just has the same sort of toxicity in personality I get from Leia, but without the evidence of any massive wrong doing. I'm not going to turn my back on her.
Using the compressed version? My advice for all renpy games - download the PC compressed version, and the renpy version, and make your own mac version. Something about the renpy archives can sometime break when compressed. The other way is to download both PC and mac version, and replace the game folder of the mac app with the PC one.
There are tutorials on how to use renpy on the renpy site, and probably threads on this forum with people explaining it better. Once you learn to do it, you will never be at the mercy of these weird errors.
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In the book club the “ladies” are at most a nice way to pass the time. Nothing more (or not yet? Who knows). Except one!
I hope and pray that when Nika spoke to Anna, he meant exactly this woman when he said (roughly): A person here has piqued my interest.
As I've always said, the most interesting LI's to date are the ones Mika has had little to no contact with.
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Unfortunately (at least it seems that way), he is completely on the wrong track. He should much rather ask himself completely different questions!
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Haha... you're such an adorable optimist!
