VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Dessolos]

the problem isn't that the game isn't good, the problem is the game is getting worse and ffs censored. Like I can understand that you all like the game, i can understand you personally thinking the changes aren't a big deal (they are you just clearly don't see the larger implications of the game getting toned way the fuck down) but I can't understand why you have any faith at this point in the game. It took for-ev-er for him to release the steam version and all it was is a bunch of censoring/removing, imo that is a bad sign of things to come and his galacial work pace.

i can see liking the game still, but i cannot for the life of me understand why you white knights are defending these crappy changes from cH5 beta to s1 steam release.

From my perspective I'll tell why I may defend this game a tad. Yes I do see issues and yeah I may not be happy with the changes. But the changes doesn't make it any worse of a game than it was 6 months ago to me personally. As the changes don't change anything major about the story or characters from what I read.

Fair my opinion matters way less than anyone else that has played the rework as ive yet to play the rework. But ive been reading this forum since the rework and I haven't read one thing that changes the story or character in a major way. As to me what makes this game great is the comedy , and the characters. So unless ive missed something about the characters being changed and acting totally different the censorship is whatever to me, since the lewds are not important to me.

As far as having faith in Ocean. This also depends on your own perspective. I have faith he will deliver a quality update maybe not storywise as I feel the story is the weakest part of the game but everything else is top notch to me. But I don't have faith he will finish this game at all. But you know what I don't care I watched enough anime and tv and been disappointed enough times that it's whatever to me at this point and im just along for the ride until it's shutdown.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

mostwanted8

That's not a dissatisfaction, but an observation.

I'm fine, brother from Team Sasha.

We're just having a discussion and I love it.


I don't reply to BobTheDuck and John972 as much as I do to you, because we three essentially share the same opinion about the characters, we just look at them through different lenses and their responses perfectly complement my words.

So far, my position remains the same.

This isn't an answer to you, I just want to summarise my thoughts from all previous posts.


Ocean intentionally or unknowingly (the worst case scenario) keeps Bella's darkest deeds in the shadows. This leads to a very twisted view of this character where on one side we have some of Bella's fans who raise her to saint status and on the other side their opponents who can't say anything better than the heist and illegal racing (you guys are pathetic ).

Meanwhile, in reality, Bella is one of the three most terrible people among WiAB and SG's love interests. Leia is probably at the top, the rest two is your personal preferences and opinions on whose actions are more horrible. Bella's fans can make all the excuses they want to keep her away from them two. She has feelings and regrets, but so far they don't change the outcome. She realises her bad act in the scene with the woman in the restroom, but is completely blind to the Vanessa's situation. Change my mind if you want but corruption of a woman is literally the worst idea that ever crossed the minds of SG characters. Bella doesn't see shit.

Her instability is no excuse because she is aware of her actions. Leia also has traumas that have affected her behaviour. Vanessa probably suffers from a personality disorder, most likely narcissistic, less likely antisocial. All three of them are in need of serious psychological support.

All things considered, I think Bella is worse person than Vanessa. But we only know Vanessa from two chapters, so she might ask Bella to give up her seat in the future.

I'm not a Bella hater. Yes, I'm tired of the amount of her screen time and Ocean's excessive attention to her outside of the game, but I can live with that. I enjoy her scenes and I like her chemistry with Nika. If Ocean doesn't make a mistake with her development, she will join my personal top 3 where she really belongs, among Vanessa and Leia. I like badass girls.


But Vanessa is still my favorite. I just can't, I love her vibe and the tension when both her and Nika are in the same scene. They're like predators studying each other, that tension never drops even for a second. However, I now doubt that Nika actually can stand up to her if they become enemies, given how his dumb antics are perceived now. I think without Ocean's help and plot armour, she'll destroy him. The same goes for Bella who to put it mildly is not a very smart person. She will demolish them both. It surprises me how my perspective on the characters and the plot has changed over time.

 

[yossa999]

I think without Ocean's help and plot armour, she'll destroy him. The same goes for Bella who to put it mildly is not a very smart person. She will demolish them both.

Yep, not a very smart person but with a gun next to her dirty thongs.
Vanessa, with her psychological tricks against Bella, reminds me of that guy who swung sabers with impressive skill until Indiana Jones just pulled out his revolver and shot him with a grin like an annoying fly.

 

[Jarulf]

I haven't followed the 'discussions' about the game here, but I just finished playing. I think the last version I played was 4.5, so it's been a little while.
I'm on the Nami path (only girl for me really, though I like Robin too) and really enjoyed the play through. If I have one criticism, it would be the huge number of sexualised renders of the girls. I certainly don't mind them as such, they are hot and beautiful, they just seem a little out of place right now, considering the place Nika is mentally right now. Not a big thing, just something that struck me, even if they are more for the player's benefit rather than what Nika is focusing on.
Maybe that's just me though

Absolutely gorgeous game of course, and I like the dynamics between a lot of the characters, and the various mysteries. Maybe Nami and Nika are cousins or from rival families - though that's probably been discussed before

 

[PaxHadrian17]

If the game will not have sex, this game shouldn’t be in this website, F95 it’s for porn games.
if u want to create some drama sh8 story you are in the wrong place to share it. Don’t bullsh8 me that I need to accept it ..No! ….porn game it’s a porn game,this game should be out of this forum. Accept the facts.

You have an opinion that is different than many fans of Summers Gone - that is fine.

It's also fine for others to disagree with you, after all, this is a discussion forum, right?

F95 is Clearly not just for porn games, or the moderators would not have allowed the 600+ AVNs/creations on F95 that have the 'no sexual content' tag to stay.

Accept that fact... or not.

Now - if you are So offended that you have found an AVN that does not meet your high standards for porn... why stay?

Why risk getting triggered by a creation that does not align with your view of the F95 universe?

In the last two weeks, there have been dozens of releases on F95 that likely meet your definition of porn (various sex tags), why not enjoy one/some of those?

I know I have found AVNs that ended up not having the story/renders/content/music I enjoyed enough to stay so I moved on and left those threads behind.

So - you are in the Summers Gone thread.

(I checked your user id to try to read some of your other SG posts, you know - talking about what you have enjoyed about SG - be it music, story, renders, etc. but - you have your activity hidden - so please include the F95 post info from any prior responses so I can better understand how much you enjoy certain aspects of SG).

What Do you like that originally brought you to this thread and kept you here long enough to offer your 'insights'?

Cheers!!

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

Yep, not a very smart person but with a gun next to her dirty thongs.
Vanessa, with her psychological tricks against Bella, reminds me of that guy who swung sabers with impressive skill until Indiana Jones just pulled out his revolver and shot him with a grin like an annoying fly.

Yeah suuure... Considering how their first meeting went, if we take that Vanessa tricked Bella as the truth, the gun jammed and the poor blonde was stabbed by a buttplug

 

[BobTheDuck]

Yeah suuure... Considering how their first meeting went, if we take that Vanessa tricked Bella as the truth, the gun jammed and the poor blonde was stabbed by a buttplug

I'm kinda thinking, maybe evil is the wrong way to describe these characters: after all, WiaB sets the scene with the growth of a criminal empire. So maybe dangerous? My real beef is like Nika, I don't want to be alone in a room with Vanessa. I am certain I'd end up hog tied, whether mentally or physically, and I just don't like that. She is calculated in a way Leia isn't, but currently, she's more like someone trapping insects under a magnifying glass; she's curious to see what will happen, and if she prods too far and the insect has teeth, she knows she can sic her Mario simpboi's lawyers on them. She always has a lever.

Leia is more dangerous, more criminal, but also more ruled by her passions, and ultimately her passions will always interfere with her plans. Vanessa... I can't see her deviating from her plan, just re-evaluating how best to get to checkmate, not to win (like Zara), but to see how someone else deals with losing, and primarily because she's bored.

 

[Winterstale]

Not gonna lie, my dirty, half-asleep mind had some playful expectations for this scene :



Almost spilled my coffee in surprise:

 

[Adhdclassic]

I'm kinda thinking, maybe evil is the wrong way to describe these characters: after all, WiaB sets the scene with the growth of a criminal empire. So maybe dangerous? My real beef is like Nika, I don't want to be alone in a room with Vanessa. I am certain I'd end up hog tied, whether mentally or physically, and I just don't like that. She is calculated in a way Leia isn't, but currently, she's more like someone trapping insects under a magnifying glass; she's curious to see what will happen, and if she prods too far and the insect has teeth, she knows she can sic her Mario simpboi's lawyers on them. She always has a lever.

Leia is more dangerous, more criminal, but also more ruled by her passions, and ultimately her passions will always interfere with her plans. Vanessa... I can't see her deviating from her plan, just re-evaluating how best to get to checkmate, not to win (like Zara), but to see how someone else deals with losing, and primarily because she's bored.

Nika has a card to play he never told Vanessa he wouldn't speak about the butt plug. Nika being Nika he is holding that card.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

I'm kinda thinking, maybe evil is the wrong way to describe these characters: after all, WiaB sets the scene with the growth of a criminal empire. So maybe dangerous? My real beef is like Nika, I don't want to be alone in a room with Vanessa. I am certain I'd end up hog tied, whether mentally or physically, and I just don't like that. She is calculated in a way Leia isn't, but currently, she's more like someone trapping insects under a magnifying glass; she's curious to see what will happen, and if she prods too far and the insect has teeth, she knows she can sic her Mario simpboi's lawyers on them. She always has a lever.

Leia is more dangerous, more criminal, but also more ruled by her passions, and ultimately her passions will always interfere with her plans. Vanessa... I can't see her deviating from her plan, just re-evaluating how best to get to checkmate, not to win (like Zara), but to see how someone else deals with losing, and primarily because she's bored.

I've already told you, so far she reminds me of a classic trickster.
She is the sly fox-sister from Slavic folklore. Meanwhile, Nika is the wolf.
In this sense, she is not lawful evil as you called her earlier, but in fact chaotic evil.
Bella is also chaotic evil. But she creates chaos with her recklessness and takes a direct part in it.
Vanessa will create chaos, take a popcorn and sit in a chair to watch.
Leia is lawful evil. And Nika is neutral evil.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I've already told you, so far she reminds me of a classic trickster.
She is the sly fox-sister from Slavic folklore. Meanwhile, Nika is the wolf.
In this sense, she is not lawful evil as you called her earlier, but in fact chaotic evil.
Bella is also chaotic evil. But she creates chaos with her recklessness and takes a direct part in it.
Vanessa will create chaos, take a popcorn and sit in a chair to watch.
Leia is lawful evil.

The reason I'd say the opposite - Leia can't divorce her feeling from her decisions, Vanessa can. Vanessa is far more rational than Leia. Look at how Leia reacts to Willi in the police carpark, the way she reacts to finding out why he couldn't come back - those are the reasons she's chaotic - her motivations don't obey reason.

Vanessa on the other hand, appears chaotic by doing things on a whim, but I'd suggest that is just her current mask. She has ulterior motives, which you can see when no one is looking at her - the smile drops and she's observing and calculating Nika and Nami's relationship. He clearly defined social system is the rule she follows - she has created her mental ideal of the world and rates people according to how they fit - Nika is an anomaly to her because he doesn't obey her world view. I'd suggest that Vanessa's goal is not chaos or order, but she sees those as tools to use rationally in furtherance of a life of ease (self importance as the highest value - "I'll never have to work a day in my life" etc).

I can certainly understand your interpretation, but just like Nami hides something central to her character, we haven't actually seen the real Vanessa yet to any extent, we've only had glimpses where the mask has dropped, and the games she's playing are not innocent, they just currently don't have consequences. She is coiled and observing ...the fact she does this without malice or specific ill intent, but has a habit to look for levers makes me suspicious.

 

[Winterstale]

Not sure if anyone's brought this up, but the MC's panic attacks seem to be snowballing.

It feels like the more people he meets, the worse it gets. I can’t help but wonder if we might hit a "dead end" where he could have a fatal heart attack if we mess around with too many characters.

Picture this: MC's almost at his breaking point, barely hanging on, and then William shows up in front of him like:


... but hey, I bet Doctor Amber has just the right remedy for all his woes

 

[Maviarab]

I haven't followed the 'discussions' about the game here, but I just finished playing. I think the last version I played was 4.5, so it's been a little while.
I'm on the Nami path (only girl for me really, though I like Robin too) and really enjoyed the play through. If I have one criticism, it would be the huge number of sexualised renders of the girls. I certainly don't mind them as such, they are hot and beautiful, they just seem a little out of place right now, considering the place Nika is mentally right now. Not a big thing, just something that struck me, even if they are more for the player's benefit rather than what Nika is focusing on.
Maybe that's just me though

Absolutely gorgeous game of course, and I like the dynamics between a lot of the characters, and the various mysteries. Maybe Nami and Nika are cousins or from rival families - though that's probably been discussed before

Well...first person I've seen in months to say they are too sexy rofl....

Makes a nice refreshing change lol.

 

[minibaer12]

Not sure if anyone's brought this up, but the MC's panic attacks seem to be snowballing.
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It feels like the more people he meets, the worse it gets. I can’t help but wonder if we might hit a "dead end" where he could have a fatal heart attack if we mess around with too many characters.

I think it has nothing to do with the people. In general, his panic attacks are becoming more and more severe.

 

[Doomyk]

I've already told you, so far she reminds me of a classic trickster.
She is the sly fox-sister from Slavic folklore. Meanwhile, Nika is the wolf.
In this sense, she is not lawful evil as you called her earlier, but in fact chaotic evil.
Bella is also chaotic evil. But she creates chaos with her recklessness and takes a direct part in it.
Vanessa will create chaos, take a popcorn and sit in a chair to watch.
Leia is lawful evil. And Nika is neutral evil.

You're a little confused. A neutral evil character is a more machiavellian villain who will do anything for his own benefit. So Leia is more of this type. But the lawful evil character is more of Melanie's sister. She's a corrupt cop. As for the statement that Nick is a trickster (chaotic good), i would argue. I would rather classify both Nika and William as the neutral-chaotic type.

 

[Adhdclassic]

We talk about everything in regard to the relationships and situations, but I haven't heard much about the theft and people's thoughts on it. Especially who is going to be the scapegoat. So I am going to throw out a theory. Nika doing his favor for Zara he sets it up to look like Melanie Ceril took it. Police come her sister recognizes it and takes it. She is seen taking it by Vanessa and Vanessa manipulates Ceril.

 

[Jarulf]

Well...first person I've seen in months to say they are too sexy rofl....

Makes a nice refreshing change lol.

Well, to be perfectly honest I'm not really attracted to most of them. I'm in the "small boobs are better camp" , and Ocean very definitely is not

But, I just thought all these close up shots of butts in tight pants and humongous boobs while Nika is not really interested yet, felt a bit too much of fan service. It sort of jarred with the overall tone of the game in some respects.
As I originally said, it's not a big thing, just something I did notice.

 

[soprano31]

"small boobs are better camp"

Maybe smaller,but a gorgeous handful of pure nature,
juicy peachy breasts..
that the blonde silicone supremacy certainly cannot give you..

 

[Jarulf]

Maybe smaller,but a gorgeous handful of pure nature,
juicy peachy breasts..
that the blonde silicone supremacy certainly cannot give you..
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Nami does have the nicest boobs in the game, imo.
But to be fair, it doesn't seem most of the other girls have cheated nature with silicone. They just won the "connective tissue lottery" or however The Cheeto put it.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Nami does have the nicest boobs in the game, imo.
But to be fair, it doesn't seem most of the other girls have cheated nature with silicone. They just won the "connective tissue lottery" or however The Cheeto put it.

*except Vic. Her boobs hurt to look at. Mila's seem more natural, and that's saying something.