Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.9.9] [Innoxia]

[EmDotRand]

I'd say it still is more buggy as not fully tested and there's mods use problem, but should have all content for Inno's 0.4.9 version - from the user perspective.
From the developer perspective: running java 21 (not the old 8) and is modularized (jpms), can be packaged as installer (no console window) and jlink-ed to not bundle all the jre. i have revorked to use java nio meaning to run fully in jar and not creating `data` folder (my version created it at user home directory, not along executable), but failed, as it being jpackaged cannot access files in jar in module (`jrt:`) I'm workin for now to load mods from archive and data folder (to just drop mods there and they could just work).

In other words, Java finally got features that other platforms like C++ had for years.
I know you said this was buggy but hot damn.

1: Mousing over literally any button returns an null exception error. Seemingly harmless.
2: The context popups stay until another button is moused over or until anywhere else is clicked. This blocks some elements such as the personality options.
3: Using the keyboard did not update the screen until I clicked. Last instance when I tapped the /1/ key repeatedly the next screen my male character "Unknown" was being fingered by Alexandria. The main menu, inventory, phone, and my character profile were all unresponsive. Used escape to return to the main menu and start a new game.
4: The first turn of combat can fail to show the opponent's stats.
5: Got this funky screen when approaching the bank -

Spoiler: Funky Bank Errors

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I'm guessing that's due to all the non-hardcoded content being removed.
6: Got a similar error when meeting the shady dealer in the alleyway, confirming my suspicions.

And that's all after playing just past the prologue. Still, willing to wait a bit while more pertinent tasks are handled.

 

[Lure of Chaos]

In other words, Java finally got features that other platforms like C++ had for years.

So I plan to move to Kotlin but first I should compact all of this spaghetti code.
That's surely not easy when I'm not the original developer, and so i'm many places where the dearest Inno is making presupmtions try{}catch{Syste.err.prinltn} "oh, exception, lets pretend that nothing happened really" I just rethrow an exception so game may be unplayable now but now you can see why and I'll be expecting why. Again, with the original architecture, "if you've fixed that particular bug, please inspect 10 000 more similar places" is killing me.
Again why I'm moving to Kotlin is nullables - then i will have no presume that object anytime will be present - intentionally or not - and correct the game behaviour. Another plus is refactoring - in java i have no trick "we have no such method, but lets add a fake then refactor normally" - so i java i have to run thoroughly run all 1000 places to fix when in Kotlin i just write new fake extension function then make it "inline" refactor everywhere tp get desirable effect.
finally, i have here natural bulk functions instead of handmade java-streams - no 10000 rewrites either.
And the last: data is a code too (take a look on Gradle philosophy) so we don't need (no) JS engines, xml pasrsing and so on - just compile and run codable data.
That's my goal.

 

[Lure of Chaos]

...what is my vision... okay, have a look at

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, it's my philosophy how the data should look (character generation for now only): the data (even if it is compilable) decides what and when it should be, and a thin client should only nicely present it and give some control over it, that's all.
In other words, all the data should be an DSL data, regarding is it xml, html, css, or business logic. That's a control (java, js or python) or data (xml, html, css or what): one language, one format, no thirdparties (such as embedded languages or browsers)

 

[jfmherokiller]

if possible please find a way to get rid of the whole "js code inside of xml" portion. because that was extremely error prone and had provided no feedback if you mistyped something until you spun up the game and prayed that the error wasnt swallowed.

 

[Lure of Chaos]

if possible please find a way to get rid of the whole "js code inside of xml" portion. because that was extremely error prone and had provided no feedback if you mistyped something until you spun up the game and prayed that the error wasnt swallowed.

I will, surely will, when i'm moving from java to kotlin: so there will be no js, no xml, no hardcoded data: anything should be a Kotlin code. The drawback is, that, if you want make a mod, you should PROGRAM it (nothing more scary that writing gradle dsl scripts - it looks like a json, but stiil it's coding) and compile it, and upload as a jar library - but then you could just drop thus jar in a game and it should just recognize it.Aaand - no limitations at all: you can mix json-like dsl and imperial code, such as:

for (i in (1..100))
    if (game.day) {
        div {
            +"What a nice day!"
        }
}

No xml, no js, but all conditional behaviour you need - conditions, loops, html+css which looks like an original one and at zero cost, is it adorable?
edit: and, p.s.: and if you're using JetBrains Idea you will get autocomplete with all properties and functions you can use: and such properties is active, "reactive" - if you change one, all dependent places would properly be updated immediately. So, if you program to change your MC - it's acting now like a new one - no need to call service function and so on. Magnifique!

 

[johnysanchez01]

The code makes me angry, but the game is lovely, and character customization is great - so it's worth to continue.

From everything that's been relayed to me the code is actually fundamentally flawed in how it processes each turn and object in the game. Godspeed to you my friend.

 

[medassin]

Next Update Info.



So, as for what's going to be in this next update, the main addition is going to be the completion of the new doll race mechanics. You'll be able to buy dolls from Lovienne's Luxuries, house them in the mansion, and interact with them in a manner similar to slaves. I've also added a new 'command' immobilisation type for dolls, so that you can command them to remain completely immobile during sex.

I'll also have a lot of bugs fixed and some other minor things added (such as a Dalmatian subspecies). I will have this update released by the end of this month at the latest, and I'll make another post to let you know how things are going next Friday.
Thank you all so much for your patience over the past few months. I'll do my best over the next week to flesh out this update and try to get more content added before the release. See you again soon!

 

[TheeSonus]

I've also added a new 'command' immobilization type for dolls, so that you can command them to remain completely immobile during sex.

Ah yes, adding something to the game that is ALREADY IN THE FUCKING GAME.
Bravo Innoxia. Truly, this update was worth all the time taken for it. Not a single moment of waiting was wasted.

 

[Sant3224]

Next Update Info.



So, as for what's going to be in this next update, the main addition is going to be the completion of the new doll race mechanics. You'll be able to buy dolls from Lovienne's Luxuries, house them in the mansion, and interact with them in a manner similar to slaves. I've also added a new 'command' immobilisation type for dolls, so that you can command them to remain completely immobile during sex.

I'll also have a lot of bugs fixed and some other minor things added (such as a Dalmatian subspecies). I will have this update released by the end of this month at the latest, and I'll make another post to let you know how things are going next Friday.
Thank you all so much for your patience over the past few months. I'll do my best over the next week to flesh out this update and try to get more content added before the release. See you again soon!

Def worth it the six months of waiting, thanks for the info

 

[aspar4gus]

LT has ironically reached its "pokemon" state (stagnant, monopoly) without even ever being finished, and we're now waiting for their "palworld" competitors to be born someday

 

[Airell]

LT has ironically reached its "pokemon" state (stagnant, monopoly) without even ever being finished, and we're now waiting for their "palworld" competitors to be born someday

I think you just need to look a little. There are other text games that focus on fetish diversity and things like that. Two examples... Or even CoC and TiTS.

https://f95zone.to/threads/dryad-quest-rpg-a-tale-of-lust-and-glory-v0-6-1-nekon.48820/
https://f95zone.to/threads/flexible-survival-v2024-03-18-nuku-valentines.28163/

 

[Lure of Chaos]

I think you just need to look a little. There are other text games that focus on fetish diversity and things like that. Two examples... Or even CoC and TiTS.

https://f95zone.to/threads/dryad-quest-rpg-a-tale-of-lust-and-glory-v0-6-1-nekon.48820/
https://f95zone.to/threads/flexible-survival-v2024-03-18-nuku-valentines.28163/

and DoL

 

[Gazael]

Ain't that the life. Several games you have been interested in getting finished and all of them end in disappointment. Either development gets abandoned, development suddenly drags out for no reason or the end result is a freaking dumpster fire.

 

[Kallumin]

The other games sadly can't really compete with Lilith's Throne.

First of all, I'm a gay dude, Dryad Quest isn't for me.

Flexible Survival is a good game, but not half as customizable as LT, and with an UI that's clearly inferior. If I wanted to play a DOS game, I'd dust off the old classics. And the content is really hot from a gay perspective, but I just can't lose myself in FS as I can in LT.

Degrees of Lewdity is also pretty good, but it feels like 99% of the sex in the game is somebody raping you, which is not my cup of tea!

I feel like Course of Temptation is actually the most natural competitor for Lilith's Throne. Of course it doesn't have the transformation, fantasy setting and combat focus of Lilith's Throne, but it is a game I've lost several hours in.


That future update is a joke, I don't even know who wanted the new doll race. But I'm used to disappointment with this game, seems like I will have to wait another year for Innoxia to put out a patch that makes it worth revisiting LT again. Which is a shame, but nothing I wasn't expecting.

 

[Zenoxus]

The other games sadly can't really compete with Lilith's Throne.

First of all, I'm a gay dude, Dryad Quest isn't for me.

Flexible Survival is a good game, but not half as customizable as LT, and with an UI that's clearly inferior. If I wanted to play a DOS game, I'd dust off the old classics. And the content is really hot from a gay perspective, but I just can't lose myself in FS as I can in LT.

Degrees of Lewdity is also pretty good, but it feels like 99% of the sex in the game is somebody raping you, which is not my cup of tea!

I feel like Course of Temptation is actually the most natural competitor for Lilith's Throne. Of course it doesn't have the transformation, fantasy setting and combat focus of Lilith's Throne, but it is a game I've lost several hours in.


That future update is a joke, I don't even know who wanted the new doll race. But I'm used to disappointment with this game, seems like I will have to wait another year for Innoxia to put out a patch that makes it worth revisiting LT again. Which is a shame, but nothing I wasn't expecting.

If you haven't already I'd recommend giving BDCC a look

 

[AssgoreDreemurr]

If you haven't already I'd recommend giving BDCC a look

Hopefully BDCC wont get abandoned like Lilith's Throne, the customization is really good although it can probably get even better later on since the game is in early development.

 

[jfmherokiller]

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the autocomplete is exactly what i was looking for because while i could figure out how to make the magical xml stuff work via copying and guessing. Id rather have my ide yell at me and let me know that I made a typo or am attempting to use a missing property.

 

[shlorp mcdingy]

If you haven't already I'd recommend giving BDCC a look

Just tried it and BDCC was an absolute smash hit for me.

is there like any centralization for games like this? It feels like when there's such a community that loves them to pieces, they'd try and advertise somewhere. Even on F95, I can only find industrial quantities of run-of-the-mill 3dcg games, and have to go totally fucking mining for diamonds in the rough like BDCC, Max the Elf, Lilith's Throne, etc. It feels like it's either 'mr microniche hyperkinky von pissounding' or its 'oooh pneis in vagone or maybe but hole? the choices....!!!!'. Can't someone make a list or something? It feels like I'm missing out on a guidebook somewhere.

My taste can't be that specific, right??? But between lilith's and BDCC, everything else comes up disapointingly short for me. I think it's really the fact that the characters can take control in the situations (personal preference), but more I like that they don't just assume your a sex-deprived straight guy. They let you play as the flirted-upon, which I find a lot more enticing.

 

[Recurracy]

Just tried it and BDCC was an absolute smash hit for me.

is there like any centralization for games like this? It feels like when there's such a community that loves them to pieces, they'd try and advertise somewhere. Even on F95, I can only find industrial quantities of run-of-the-mill 3dcg games, and have to go totally fucking mining for diamonds in the rough like BDCC, Max the Elf, Lilith's Throne, etc. It feels like it's either 'mr microniche hyperkinky von pissounding' or its 'oooh pneis in vagone or maybe but hole? the choices....!!!!'. Can't someone make a list or something? It feels like I'm missing out on a guidebook somewhere.

My taste can't be that specific, right??? But between lilith's and BDCC, everything else comes up disapointingly short for me. I think it's really the fact that the characters can take control in the situations (personal preference), but more I like that they don't just assume your a sex-deprived straight guy. They let you play as the flirted-upon, which I find a lot more enticing.

I'm the same kind of sucker for games like these too so we're in the same boats of ideal taste's, Lilith's throne is absolute peak for me at this time simply because of how it presents itself with the freedom given, customisation options and absolute power you have given enough time in a playthrough, I haven't played BDCC because personally Anthropomorphic animals aren't my cup of tea in the porn game sphere (No offense to the furry fandom!)

There is another game called Degrees of Lewdity that's alright but it's whole gameplay loop revolves around:
>go outside
>get raped
>rinse and repeat your entire playthrough
Absolutely no options (or just very few if any) to be dominant in every sexual scenario presented within that game.
Maybe some day there will be a Lilith's Throne successor, that or Innoxia finally gets the game done; I'm fine with whatever option comes first.

 

[gorgonzola_eater]

Got to look at sourcecode and i'm stunned: the code is a creepy crap!
So i've forked it to make it somehow better.

Please take a look:

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and

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. Here I've slightly reorganized code and resources, though I've failed to get

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and

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married, so no luck getting rid of files unpacked. But now they are in user home directory, not exe location. The next step will be mods loading (hope soon)


Try to look at this one.


Six months no updates. I think author has stuck with the mess of code. So much code and so much dupes,

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totally got raped. Plus it's fragile - even rearranging code breaks the game. And totally slow, as JS been constantly parsing (by

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).

I'll try to make it better if I can and not eventually get bored.

You changed it so it unpacks files into the home directory and not the EXE location? So, you made it worse? There's a reason indie devs, especially lewd game devs, don't make their games clutter up your computer. It should be one folder to delete or move with no hassle if you want to.