Steam receives pressure from payment processors -- pulls adult games with incest/rape

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People keep talking about religious puritanists and how they are responsible for this, but no. The majority of people pushing the campaigns against these games and make petitions to credit card companies are feminist collectives, nothing about religion at all, religious groups are "hunting" less and less this kind of things and they don't have much leverage on cancel culture, they can try to push laws and regulations, but the actual strategy used is go for reputation. You see, incest don't need to involve minors or not having consent, but they still go for this kind of tag to get a foothold, soon enough they will widen the scope and push more tags off using any possible excuses.
It's just one of the few oddities where oldschool feminism and religious right-wing align:

"Sex is evil"

Besides that, i'm gonna give you the hint that all the anti-lewd campaigns started under Trump's first presidency in the 2016-2020 era.
 
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>people tend to escalate from vanilla
True, but it would be true if you partner will be ok even without porn.
Yeah, vanilla is good, just being close is nice, slow sex and kissing. But tbf it gets repetitive. Any dude would like a blowjob, rimming, 69, doggystyle, smack her ass. At least.
But in our world not many girls want your dick in her face, even less of those girls you want close to your dick tbf.
So yeah, being in vanilla family friendly sex relationship is not exactly a choice.
On the other hand, porn gives you a stories about chick not wanting it but half through "rape" becoming crazy for dick. Definitely fantasy, but whats so bad in it staying in fantasy.
 

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The fact you outright lie doesn't help your case & just makes you the kind of person not worth engaging with.
The only person who lied in this thread is you. You didn't refute anything I said, just went on an attack, because you believe your illiteracy is somehow my dishonesty.

The reason porn (and many other behaves) can be addictive is that an orgasm feels good because of the endorphins (a drug) your brain releases, and yes, you can get addicted to that sensation & the behaviors that lead to is (just like some gamblers getting hooked on the 'thrill' of it). Arguing that is like trying to argue water isn't wet.
Neurotransmitters aren't drugs. You don't get addicted to them. Also, water isn't wet. Water is making other things wet, the property itself can't give itself its own property. To say that water is wet is to say that water makes itself be itself. It's basic logic.

But the research is irrelevant to the ultimate point
Yeah, I kind of figured you don't find research to be relevant to arguing your positions.

The guy you are arguing with is an outright liar, sent him links to a US study and his response was to say its an obscure Chinese source....

I believe its called being 'in denial'.
So, resorting to lying, like you did, is somehow proof of being in denial? Well, I'm glad you identified the problem you are suffering from to everyone.

I made a valid and calm response, and you went berserk trying to defend your misguided position by throwing incorrect attacks on my character. This speaks volumes about the strong bias that overrides your better judgment. I take this to be why your accusations have been projected confessions thus far.

First source i put was the first result that turned up & was a pretty shitty source so I was probably a tad strong in my wording when addressing them, as the source was shitty (so my mistake) still doesnt disprove my point (their conclusion was disingenuous in that 1 bad source doesn't = no research has been done at all, despite the second link, and the links from another user or a simple search).... porn effects are being studied, only an idiot says they haven't been.

But my ultimate point (as above), is whatever that research finds is irrelevant as its an adults choice to damage themselves (as long as it doesn't directly harm others) if they so choose (like alcohol, gambling, food, smoking etc. etc.).
Both websites you linked are scam websites, as peterppp illustrated (thank you by the way, peterppp, you saved me a lot of time driving this point to him myself again :)).

What do you expect me to do? To go through each paper mill made research linked, research that I've seen for years circulating the same NoFap and anti-porn spaces, none of which serve to reliably support the thesis that porn is addictive, and are thrown at people like rocks exploiting the fact that most people aren't scientifically litterate enough to call out the bullshit, with me having to provide you with step by step explenations of what is wrong with them, wasting my time, as you would clearly just completly ignore a wall of text I would have to wrote, mocking me in the process, because you are incapable of admitting making a mistake?

The entire rejected the position you are making after going through such a type of faux research, as it was linked. But I'm guessing you are the real smart one, and will be battling the totality of psychologists in the US just to push this long-debunked narrative?

You displayed no actual understanding of neurobiology, no knowledge of psychology, and it's clear you didn't read any of the papers yourself when you first linekd them, uncritically picking two obscure websites that I bet you needed some time to dig out of the depths of the internet, despite them lacking credibility, only because they justified your preconceived notion.

You don't have credentials, you don't have the qualifications, you don't have the knowledge, but you speak with uttermost confidence, and feel quick to throw accusations at me. Accusations, which you recognize were incorrect, as you acknowledge the research I talked about was indeed Chinese, with you not apologizing for this insult.

I'm not going to waste time talking to intellectually dishonest armchair psychologists hellbent on rationalizing their misguided worldview by ignoring the substance of what has been said to them, and grasping straws desperately to double down. I'm not interested in convincing brainwashed people that what they believe is propaganda, because it's often impossible, but when people spread disinformation, I do gently point out the most oblivious flaws and inform people about there being an actual truth, that they might want to explore if they are interested, with contents of what I wrote allowing any person to do their search. So I gave you a brief explanation and some pointers you could take to expand your knowledge, because open-minded, not ideologically possessed people, would take them. And in response, instead of taking it or making follow-up questions to learn more, you got angry that somebody didn't agree with you after your butchered attempt to convince them.

What you illustrated is that nobody should ever listen to any word you are speaking, because the only thing to expect from you is misinformation and attacks for disagreeing. So go back to injecting yourself with porn, and trying to pry open your glued to your dick hand with a crowbar as you jerk off to pictures of Cthulu, or whatever else the porn made you do, and don't waste any more of my or anyone else's time again.
 

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People who call porn addiction is just fear to assume that there are men and women who are just illiquid (and that they are in that category). Our society is build on competition, not many men whould like to fuck beached whale with attitude of a last wave feminist and hygene problems, and piss poor (money = sex most of the time). Same goes to ugly bastards, poor fellas, manchilds, sadists and so on. Interrestingly enough, even then you yourself know that you are lower than average, you still prefer to be single than find "sutable" status partner.

Up to late forties that is. After that people just find a friend to die with. Sometimes our world is just a sad place.
 
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Yeah, I can totally see Gen Z storming Normandy nowadays.

"grok, should I charge or wait for reinforcements?"
Dude, russian and ukrainian gen Z is at war right now.
Military can forcibly mold anyone to be a cog in its machine, and show remarkable courage. Be happy that you never faced it, or your service was in a peace time.
 

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or the fact most kids these days are following streamers (virtual or onlyfans) and developing years of parasocial relationships with them
Thats weird btw, i mean, i sure as hell can fap on beauties, e-girls, goth-mommies and so on, but i never felt emotional attachment to them. Its like, i like their curves, but their personality is not in my interrest list.
 
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Dude, russian and ukrainian gen Z is at war right now.
Military can forcibly mold anyone to be a cog in its machine, and show remarkable courage. Be happy that you never faced it, or your service was in a peace time.
I honestly see your point, but it's not like Russia and Ukraine are teaching their boys to chop off their dicks, wear lipstick and teach feminine theory in education now, is it?
 

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this is the link:

in the article, they reference a study.
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this is the study:
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CHINESE

the "researcher at the university of missouri" talks about this study, they didnt do the study. but are these missouri researchers even real persons? let's look at who the article says they are:
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geology and paleontology :KEK:
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Right, now why would the Chinese Government that bans Porn on "societal/moral" values fund a study that says porn is really bad. I wonder.
Not to mention that you can get addicted to dopamine output by basically everything. Buying, stealing, shoes, watching paint dry.........
 

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I honestly see your point, but it's not like Russia and Ukraine are teaching their boys to chop off their dicks, wear lipstick and teach feminine theory in education now, is it?
The thing i got out of my school education is that you usually hate everything you were forced to sit a lesson on.

I mean, we dont have thouse lessons, and Post soviets are pretty homophobic in case of intensely gay behaviour for sure (what happen behind close doors rarely bothers anyone). But its not taught to be alpha male. TBF, I had only three male teachers, one was probably gay unmarried in his 50s and wearing pink shirts, another two were PE old man and drunkard of a "labour" lessons (its home-economy for you westerners, no?) so not much "true male alpha figures".
 
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Right, now why would the Chinese Government that bans Porn on "societal/moral" values fund a study that says porn is really bad. I wonder.
Not to mention that you can get addicted to dopamine output by basically everything. Buying, stealing, shoes, watching paint dry.........
Tbf CPC is not especially anti porn. Most East asian countries have pretty strict obscenity laws. Its cultural thing, and it works weirdly because they are simultaneously, most "perverted".
 

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Tbf CPC is not especially anti porn. Most East asian countries have pretty strict obscenity laws. Its cultural thing, and it works weirdly because they are simultaneously, most "perverted".
Yeah they really don't give a fuck what you are or believe, so long as you serve the nation's interests.

Another reason not to buy into virtue signaling by any political party.
 

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Yeah they really don't give a fuck what you are or believe, so long as you serve the nation's interests.

Another reason not to buy into virtue signaling by any political party.
I wouldnt say it that way, CPC is ideologized for sure (they are commies despite what western newstlets tend to say), but they are also damn well pragmatic. They give people easy outlets like, "yeah, we have glorious golden wall from enemy internret, but to bypass it just by a sim-card from Kazakhstan or HongKong". They pretty much dont like inspired riot attempts, but you are free to be angry at cpc how much you like untill you throw stones or form mobs Maidan style.
 

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This is an interesting one, but boringly I don't think its anything too exciting - this is a hot button topic with alot of searches, pretty sure it was a clickbait article for views (which I fell into) rather than anything more meaningful, particularly given one of the largest (if not the largest) gaming companys is Chinese & they don't shy away from making the women look pretty and jiggle in their games... just checkout some of the league of legends skins/art (considering the games rating they push that envelope as far as they can).


Who doesn't like watching a good semi-gloss enamel set :ROFLMAO:
You set the bar for what is considered porn as low as you feel like don't you ? But anyways Steam, their major international gaming site was is actually pretty unregulated. Chinese Steam went live and that one is highly regulated. They want to sell you the jiggles(you uncultivated westerner).
not their own citizens :p


Pornography is factually illegal in China, it stands to reason an autocratic regime like this would fund things that "educate" their citizens in the way they like.
 
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Most studies nowadays are far from being neutral.
Sadly true, its often a case of 'who paid for it' and 'why is it being done'. And if a neutral one that might cause is done suddenly a dissenting study appears... funded by...

You set the bar for what is considered porn as low as you feel like don't you ?
No, that's just an example of a game with a very low rating still having a fair bit of skin in its skins. Not something that strikes as deeply conservative. Unless you are talking about watching paint dry again, because that's a pretty high bar if your kink is ceilings

But anyways Steam, their major international gaming site was is actually pretty unregulated. Chinese Steam went live and that one is highly regulated. They want to sell you the jiggles(you uncultivated westerner).
not their own citizens :p
They regulate heaps of stuff there, I mean getting access would have taken jumping through some hoops for steam but I think that's also to do with publishing & comments etc.

In terms of jiggles I am ignorant of the stats, but what do some of those jiggle jiggle gacha games sell like over there? Are they banned? Do any originate from there?

Pornography is factually illegal in China, it stands to reason an autocratic regime like this would fund things that "educate" their citizens in the way they like.
In English on a random site? & don't they have their own media channels (partly why steam would be so regulated?).
 
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In terms of jiggles I am ignorant of the stats, but what do some of those jiggle jiggle gacha games sell like over there? Are they banned? Do any originate from there?
No clue.
Still not porn. Why are you moving the goal post ?

In English on a random site? & don't they have their own media channels (partly why steam would be so regulated?).
Most none China sites are behind the great firewall, VPNs exist though. If you access or make porn in any way it's illegal(although I think as user you only get minus social points I think but not sure).
Still irrelevant, the point is that study is completely worthless by default because of Chinese agenda.
 

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No clue.
Still not porn. Why are you moving the goal post ?



Most none China sites are behind the great firewall, VPNs exist though. If you access or make porn in any way it's illegal(although I think as user you only get minus social points I think but not sure).
Still irrelevant, the point is that study is completely worthless by default because of Chinese agenda.
Dude, you shouldnt read western media on china. they are pure garbage. Same on russia btw, and i now think that India, middle east and other parts of the world to. Sadly you cant trust even so called professors, experts and so on.

Social credit is exactly same as credit history. Government only can add or delete points there by sending you to jail or giving you education. Thats it.

Also yeah, as I mentioned previously, all you need to bypass the wall is to use Hong Kong SIM.
 
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No clue.
Still not porn. Why are you moving the goal post ?
I'm not? People said 'deeply conservative' was wondering what that means in terms of games.

Most none China sites are behind the great firewall, VPNs exist though. If you access or make porn in any way it's illegal(although I think as user you only get minus social points I think but not sure).
Still irrelevant, the point is that study is completely worthless by default because of Chinese agenda.
What the first link was shit, the study itself is probably not even real it was a clickbait site. Might go back and unlink it so others dont follow it
 

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" You will see the same talking points on whether Gambling is an addiction (or Problem Gambling), whether VGA (video game addiction) is an addiction (WHO says yes APA says no), or if they fall as an obsessive, compulsive disorder or something triggering an issue with underlying issues (such as dopamine regulation)."

You will see the same talking points on whether Gambling is an addiction (or Problem Gambling), whether VGA (video game addiction) is an addiction (WHO says yes APA says no), or if they fall as an obsessive, compulsive disorder or something triggering an issue with underlying issues (such as dopamine regulation).
Thinking about it. I don't get your point. Yeah porn can be addictive, every enjoyable behaviour can be. Porn is not more addictive than Shopping or Working. (Workaholic, Shopaholic) i.e. You can also have a compulsive disorder doing these things or be addicted to doing these things.
Similar symptoms but different disease.
I have not heard calls for banning online Shopping or Work though.
 

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" You will see the same talking points on whether Gambling is an addiction (or Problem Gambling), whether VGA (video game addiction) is an addiction (WHO says yes APA says no), or if they fall as an obsessive, compulsive disorder or something triggering an issue with underlying issues (such as dopamine regulation)."



Thinking about it. I don't get your point. Yeah porn can be addictive, every enjoyable behaviour can be. Porn is not more addictive than Shopping or Working. (Workaholic, Shopaholic) i.e. You can also have a compulsive disorder doing these things or be addicted to doing these things.
Similar symptoms but different disease.
I have not heard calls for banning online Shopping or Work though.
Well, main problem of porn is that its easy to access. You cant be shopaholic if you are poor.
 
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