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Another confused individual. If you can't be bothered reading my comments in full don't bother replying to me.
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Yes you can. It's call placeholder art, everyone with a brain does this. Most of the coding can be done before getting the art, you have only have point regarding the animation.
Sure, I bet he would like to work on other things. People would like lots of things but I don't think he is an idiot. He has the #1 game on Patreon pulling in over 50k a month for an update every 4-5 months. Every Dev would kill for that. Whats the best he can hope to accomplish? Finish this game and start a new one where if he is lucky it will be as popular and bring in as much as this one? Why would he want to risk it. Patreon is his only viable revenue stream. Just like it is for every other dev making these games.
There is no promise his next game could bring in close to what this does so why would he want to stop the gravy train. Dark Silver was the top game on Patreon With Big Brother. When he started his new game people left en masse.
You do realize that just with the updates already planned that you can vote on would takes years at the pace updates are currently released. Does that sound like someone trying to move on to something else? He can say whatever he wants publicly but believe me he is loving the position he is in right now and I guarantee he is more then happy as hell to continue what he is doing.
I read your comment. The problem is it had nothing to do with what you were responding to.
You responded to this
Which you quoted in your comment.Since I got quoted I will kindly join this discussion. Firstly, someone has to draw the scene to be animated.You can't animate with no pictures.
Your comment was
Which has nothing to do with the fact the art needs to be done or the animator can't do anything. Why do you think the animators are freelance. If they weren't they would be sitting around for months waiting for DC to finish the art. They could have finished the animation months ago, if they had the art.
I read your comment fine. Don't be mad at me just because it made no sense and had nothing to do with what you were responding to.
That would be like me responding to you saying DC draws on the computer and then complaining that you are confused and you didn't read my comment lol.
You can't use placeholder art when the scenes are interactable as it is in this game. You can't code the area to click the pill bottle on the shelf or the key on the keyhook if you don't know exactly where the shelf, bottle, key and keyhook is.
you know what guys?? being salty and flaming wars leads to nothing-at-all
i do know about programming and can tell if something can be done in a short while or it will take more time to do so
the new system is extensively more useful than the old code, which dogeek kindly has put time and effort on converting from the old code to the new
the new "divided-in-parts" image layout is far more flexible and allow to remove a lot of weight on the final release
so now..., if you don't like to wait 4 or 5 months for a release and are pledgin' on the patreon, then....
STOP PLEDGING AND STFU
do you think that rambling here would change anything on how DC and co. would do things???
YOU'RE WRONG
there are 29K posts spanning 1472 pages and i can bet that at least 70% of those are people complaining, so, why you're still here then??
you claim that you like the game and whatnot, but actually are just complaining for a new release ASAP, which for a game of this caliber and ambitious scope is simply impossible
ANYBODY with his/hers 2 cents worth of knowledge on these matters can tell that if you rush it for quick short term updates the quality will simply go down the drain, because bugs and problems will start to piling up and patching those problems would take more time than the one used releasing new content
and re-coding old code and trying to make it work with the old, bloated remaining code, withouth any issue is challenging AF, creating new content, and editing the old one to make it better-ish (yes, i'm a little salty due the new artwork), and trying to not ragequit due the sheer amount of complaints is far more taxing than you think
so please, just remember... all we here are humans, we have things to do and whatnot, be kind, be consious of the others, patience is a virtue
i do know about programming and can tell if something can be done in a short while or it will take more time to do so
the new system is extensively more useful than the old code, which dogeek kindly has put time and effort on converting from the old code to the new
the new "divided-in-parts" image layout is far more flexible and allow to remove a lot of weight on the final release
so now..., if you don't like to wait 4 or 5 months for a release and are pledgin' on the patreon, then....
STOP PLEDGING AND STFU
do you think that rambling here would change anything on how DC and co. would do things???
YOU'RE WRONG
there are 29K posts spanning 1472 pages and i can bet that at least 70% of those are people complaining, so, why you're still here then??
you claim that you like the game and whatnot, but actually are just complaining for a new release ASAP, which for a game of this caliber and ambitious scope is simply impossible
ANYBODY with his/hers 2 cents worth of knowledge on these matters can tell that if you rush it for quick short term updates the quality will simply go down the drain, because bugs and problems will start to piling up and patching those problems would take more time than the one used releasing new content
and re-coding old code and trying to make it work with the old, bloated remaining code, withouth any issue is challenging AF, creating new content, and editing the old one to make it better-ish (yes, i'm a little salty due the new artwork), and trying to not ragequit due the sheer amount of complaints is far more taxing than you think
so please, just remember... all we here are humans, we have things to do and whatnot, be kind, be consious of the others, patience is a virtue
- Apr 16, 2017
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This is just ridiculous. All I see in this thread is a bunch of people with no say at all in someone else's creative process, continuously giving their two cents (is their opinion even worth that?) about the content and development speed of a project they most likely don't contribute to anyway. All it really boils down to is "Whaaa! Why aren't MY ideas being implemented? Why aren't I generating so much money a month?" And then they'll play the game ANYWAYS. Is it really any wonder DC doesn't pay them any attention at all?
- May 6, 2018
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The game certainly improved, i don't deny it, but same as the profit, so it could be waaaaaaaaaaay better and faster
Just quoting you... You better read what you type..
Anyway guys, do you want new printscreen of the dev tracker since it was updated?
It is pretty funny to tell people to be kind after telling them to shut the fuck up but i enjoyed it none the less.
What is nice is no one has to take your word for it because that dogeek guy spoke for himself. He said
So that is him even saying the workload is not a lot which is not his fault in anyway and shouldn't surprise anyone. The bottle neck is and always has been the art. Now me personally, I don't really give a shit how long the updates take or how much money he makes. Which is why I, unlike many people here are not commenting on the game the whole 4 months between updates. If he can get people to give him 50K a month for an update every 4 months more power to him. I don't think anything anyone says here including your long ass rant will change anything.
It is not hard to not give a shit about something and still comment on it lol. They are not mutually exclusive.
This is a discussion forum about the game. Of course people are going to talk about the game, the development of the game, the characters, things they would like to see in the game, things they don't like etc.
What do you think they will talk about here, Surfing?
Your argument is like saying people shouldn't talk about football on a football forum because it won't change what happens during the game on Sunday. Also if you think it is such a waste of time then it can't be a bigger waste of time then the time you spent to tell people not to waste their time.
This kind of shit cracks me up lol.
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You know, I tyoed up a whole rebuttal and argument to your post. It was pretty long. And then I realized how much time I was wasting in my own life, arguing whether or not arguing about a game Im going to play anyway is worth arguing about. So meh, whatever. Im just gonna come in here for bug help and Update info.
- Apr 9, 2018
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This happens everytime a release gets near for SS.
Peeps, if u cant be civil, don't post. Everybody flipping out about release time, calm down. The rest of us understand it sucks, but unless u support his patreon there is no reason nor room to complain over and over and over.
If ur complaining about how DC is playing his patrons, why are u on this thread and why are u playing his game? Should be boycotting it on principle since he's a piece of shit taking so long and taking all that money from all those patrons......unless principle doesnt matter because u still want to? If it's ok to put aside principle and morales, why are u complaining about DC doing it? Hypocrates are the worst.
Those that are fed up with all the continuous complaining, hit up the mods and request that production critiques get their own thread for SS.
Have a nice day
Peeps, if u cant be civil, don't post. Everybody flipping out about release time, calm down. The rest of us understand it sucks, but unless u support his patreon there is no reason nor room to complain over and over and over.
If ur complaining about how DC is playing his patrons, why are u on this thread and why are u playing his game? Should be boycotting it on principle since he's a piece of shit taking so long and taking all that money from all those patrons......unless principle doesnt matter because u still want to? If it's ok to put aside principle and morales, why are u complaining about DC doing it? Hypocrates are the worst.
Those that are fed up with all the continuous complaining, hit up the mods and request that production critiques get their own thread for SS.
Have a nice day
- Aug 3, 2017
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