- Sep 3, 2016
- 1,970
- 3,885
---
- Thread starter CobraPL
- Start date
- Status
Or stop adding NTR to your game if you're so ashamed of it and you have to give several warning and options to hide it. People playing for it are not satisfied with how little content there is including NTR, people who dislike NTR are emotionally hurt just by a mention of it. Nobody is happy. Skip it or embrace.
Just like the other day/or month, I played VN with prostitution content just to find out, it's a harem game where mc builds brothel house just for himself. Really?
Just like the other day/or month, I played VN with prostitution content just to find out, it's a harem game where mc builds brothel house just for himself. Really?
- Aug 22, 2018
- 25,202
- 86,317
- Aug 9, 2017
- 2,859
- 13,492
Never! What's next? Allowing people to have different opinions?!
- Aug 22, 2018
- 25,202
- 86,317
Not sure that's the way to go. Next people will want rights and shit.
Sure they can. But it's important to have a focus on what you want to achieve with your game. Spreading out trying to cater to every fetish results in a poor game. Throwing randomly harem, ntr, incest, bdsm, corruption, warm feeling, comedy, drama, horror, romance, cheating, netorare stuff will make one big mess.
- May 19, 2017
- 4,062
- 6,263
NTR is not a reward, it's a consequence. You like girl x but you wouldn't run 50 miles across the map to get her flowers. Your loss, she's gonna sleep with that other dude now, because you were lazy. You had plenty of warning.
NTR without warning defeats the purpose.
- Feb 26, 2018
- 276
- 580
I partially agree in the sense of it being good game design, also makes it easy to avoid stuff you don't like (NTR). There are exceptions to this concept in design though, like when crowd-sourced writing for CoC and Flexible Survival, or for games that are actually published by a real company and aren't going to see the light of day until around 5 years in development (Very rare these days), in those circumstances they can afford to spread out content across multiple interests.
That being said, for games in that vein, there should either be a fetish toggle or a warning if you want to please the consumers, but that can actually be a lot of work (Especially for crowd-sourced content), so if money isn't your primary concern piss off as many people as you like.
That aside, the more common solution, Patreon, has made in-development crowd-funding culture incur certain consequences due to it's nature. Developers are much more likely to be drawn into whatever seems most popular or money-drawing for content to use, resulting in people bankrolling games into being something the creator never intended it to be initially; Some might argue that this results in a lower quality of games being produced, and an environment that encourages stagnation, unoriginality and laziness. On the other hand, it makes it a lot easier to break into the porn game industry to begin with.
I think constant NTR warnings in dialogue stupid since it removes any sort of consequence in choices and actions. There's also game tags for a reason if you need over a dozen warning both ingame and on the overview and still complain about NTR then you just deserve to be ignored.
- Sep 3, 2016
- 1,970
- 3,885
OK, that depends on definition. "Warning" you mentioned is OFC fully legit. Unless we play "hardcore NTR" where no matter you do, girl f around. But for proper game design, your solution is how it should be done. I was against "warning" as part of menu choice or fullscreen NTR WARNING just b4 h scene
EDIT: I checked first post. I was against "announcing" NTR
Last edited:
- Aug 22, 2018
- 25,202
- 86,317
A full hardcore NTR shouldn't need warnings on the basis that it's not aimed at people that don't like NTR.OK, that depends on definition. "Warning" you mentioned is OFC fully legit. Unless we play "hardcore NTR" where no matter you do, girl f around. But for proper game design, your solution is how it should be done. I was against "warning" as part of menu choice or fullscreen NTR WARNING just b4 h scene
If it's just a side path that sure, throw in warnings and that is what devs like to do to make sure they don't lose players.
If it's a full hardcore NTR game then it's the fault of the people that don't like NTR for playing something with content they hate.
- Jun 21, 2017
- 6,580
- 18,940
I agree.
If you don't like NTR (or any fetish come to think of it) then you intentionally download a game that has NTR (other fetishes are available) in the tags, even if it's listed as optional, then you play the game and go down the maybe optional NTR route, you lose all bitching privileges!
- May 19, 2017
- 4,062
- 6,263
Have you noticed that 90% of the posts in NTR game threads are people feigning injury. OMG NTR... the humanity... it was so horrific... dicks everywhere. They loved every minute of it, but they're closeted cucks, trying to play it off to their friends like they hate it. Why else would they be playing an NTR game in the first place. Like ordering onions on your pizza to impress your friends, but spitting them out when nobody's looking.OK, that depends on definition. "Warning" you mentioned is OFC fully legit. Unless we play "hardcore NTR" where no matter you do, girl f around. But for proper game design, your solution is how it should be done. I was against "warning" as part of menu choice or fullscreen NTR WARNING just b4 h scene
Like moths to a flame, they see an NTR warning, they can't help but click on it. The more warnings, the better.
Last edited:
- Sep 3, 2016
- 1,970
- 3,885
So, I have made constructive criticism and proposed solution. Just add damn ON/OFF on the beginning. So there is sth "make sure they don't lose players". NTR haters will not have NTR at all instead of useless tons of warnings. NTR fans will have NTR done right. What's the problem ?
- Aug 22, 2018
- 25,202
- 86,317
It's really annoying too.
I'm not bothered by NTR seeing as I don't go for the immersion thing with male MC's and some games have quite a good premise or character models like Tyrant. Story has some potential and I love the older sisters best friend who's name i've forgot.
Then you go into threads and see people complain about that content.
It's not just NTR, a lot of niche kinks have the same thing like female MC's have people whining because it isn't a male MC, beastiality games whining about beastiality content etc...
At what point do people realise not all content is for everyone?
- Aug 22, 2018
- 25,202
- 86,317
Devs like to add consequences to messing up. Turning it off at the start removes that but adding warnings lets them know if they keep messing up it will go wrong.
That's the problem.
What you proposed isn't a solution. It removes consequences and cheapens the game to please a few people.
- Jun 21, 2017
- 6,580
- 18,940
There are kinks that I don't like, I avoid them. The exception is where said kinks are optional. For example; I skipped playing Alison for a while because of the tags listed. When I did finally play it, I thought it was an awesome game and even backed the dev on Patreon. (It might have helped that some random short Welsh person recommended it to me too) I even played the routes with the kinks I don't really like, just to see how it was done, and while I skipped them in my canon playthrough, I thought they were well written and put across.
What I'm saying is... Don't skip a game because the tags say something that you don't like is in the game but it's optional! Optional means you don't have to see it! If putting a warning up on the screen before the optional event is about to happen, then that can only be a good thing, right?
I think NTR and non NTR have become a niche thing to say.
When you make a game and base it on real life, how many times do you encounter NTR ? Surely not that many if at all if you treat people well. Of course it takes two to tango...
I just feel the NTR and non NTR has now become tired and devs should write their story and not try and do it to create hype. My thoughts on it.
When you make a game and base it on real life, how many times do you encounter NTR ? Surely not that many if at all if you treat people well. Of course it takes two to tango...
I just feel the NTR and non NTR has now become tired and devs should write their story and not try and do it to create hype. My thoughts on it.
- May 19, 2017
- 4,062
- 6,263
The hotter the girl, the greater chance of geting NTRd. Players with low self-esteem should be going for Millicent, the OK looking girl with a retainer. If they try to go above their station, they need to be put back in their place. Getting the hot girl, isn't going to be easy, even though she's a total slut.
- Status