A New Way Of Getting a Game Made

[SpoiledPrince]

Rent: 2700€

La España vaciada te envía sus saludos (mientras se ríe de ti)

Tú me dirás qué apartamento de 4 habitaciones, con baño, cocina etc cuesta solo 2700 euros los seis meses, a 450 paveles el mes. Como no sea que cada uno apoquine esa cantidad y se convierta en 10800 totales, jodido lo veo jaja
Le ha faltado prometer piscina, jacuzzi y primera línea de playa en temporada alta en Ibiza para bordarlo del todo
Y ya, lo de la vacunación...

Very free English translation: No way the rent of such an apartment would be that low unless it's located in the very ass of the world, away from civilization... or it's the amount per person, which would be way more reasonable.
They are also terribly wrong about the vaccination rates

 

[moskyx]

Tú me dirás qué apartamento de 4 habitaciones, con baño, cocina etc cuesta solo 2700 euros los seis meses, a 450 paveles el mes. Como no sea que cada uno apoquine esa cantidad y se convierta en 10800 totales, jodido lo veo jaja
Le ha faltado prometer piscina, jacuzzi y primera línea de playa en temporada alta en Ibiza para bordarlo del todo
Y ya, lo de la vacunación...

Very free English translation: No way the rent of such an apartment would be that low unless it's located in the very ass of the world, away from civilization... or it's the amount per person, which would be way more reasonable.
They are also terribly wrong about the vaccination rates

I deleted my message because, in all honesty, in some villages you could get a bargain like that. Appart from that, this is kind of the most common entrepeneurial speech we can hear nowadays in this country - work for me for free, and maybe later we can talk about payment, but the most important thing is to share a vision and be committed with my idea (btw, don't count on me to be living with you in such an amazing 24/7 shitty workplace ahem, creative environment because I have more important business to attend). The average "businessman" here don't look for workers (nor partners, of course), they just look for slaves

 

[SpoiledPrince]

I deleted my message because, in all honesty, in some villages you could get a bargain like that. Appart from that, this is kind of the most common entrepeneurial speech we can hear nowadays in this country - work for me for free, and maybe later we can talk about payment, but the most important thing is to share a vision and be committed with my idea (btw, don't count on me to be living with you in such an amazing 24/7 shitty workplace ahem, creative environment because I have more important business to attend). The average "businessman" here don't look for workers (nor partners, of course), they just look for slaves

Yeah, you can always opt to live in a half ruined... ahem... vintage house in the middle of nowhere, secluded away from all mundane distractions, which is ideal for undisturbed slave labor... Very old-school. Goats provided on demand. It worked like a charm in the Middle Ages.

 

[Laikhent]

Would people volunteer for this?

Short answer is no, because the terms are really unfavorable (you can easily notice that fact when even you, who should be the one with the most motivation, don't want to go).

Also, 6 months for a big project is not reasonable, not only because of the length but because the larger and more complex a project is, the higher the chances of bumping into unforeseen problems.

I don't think Cyberpunk delays were mainly because of ppl having to work home, since multiple delays also happened with the Witcher 3 and there was no covid at that time. I think these delays mostly happens because of the incapacity any human being has to see exactly how the game project will flow from beginning to end. And this problem gets worse the bigger / more complex the project is. For you, that never participated on a game project, it's nearly impossible to predict with precision how much time it will be needed to complete it, especially when it's a big game.

 

[Papa Lewd]

Hmm, I honestly don't know what to say. I don't want to shit on your idea, because it CAN work, but it's got a lot of holes in it so far. A lot of them have already been mentioned above, like spending $7k on expenses that actually do nothing toward actually completing a game, the fact that you somehow won't be a part of said project, and that realistically, there seems to be no idea how the project will be managed. It's my dream too to ultimately build a team of artists and devs to work alongside, where we can create things both together, as well as on our own. But in my mind, that's maybe a couple years down the road. After at least a couple successful launches under my belt.

I'm not trying to be rude by any means, I just don't get it. You have limited development experience, no management experience, and want to put a team together in a different country with no one overseeing the process. Personally, I think you need to get a game out, NOW, no matter how small it is, and do it entirely on your own. That way, you can learn a lot in a short time, gain the experience needed, learn more about what kind of scope is realistic, etc. And in the meantime, build meaningful connections with people here on the forums, and who knows. Maybe you will end up getting a team together down the road that would love to work with you.

In general, I don't think it's impossible, I just think you need to rethink your roadmap. But there are a lot of smart, helpful people here, so you really couldn't be in a better place to learn (in my opinion). Just, don't try to put the cart before the horse.

 

[Machinist]

I had an idea for quite a large game.

Let me stop you right there.

 

[The M.O.]

Let me stop you right there.

Yeah, yeah, I knew as I wrote it. Everyone does.

Short answer is no, because the terms are really unfavorable (you can easily notice that fact when even you, who should be the one with the most motivation, don't want to go).

No, I'd love to go. I have a reason I can't. Apart from a few people that seem to be from Spain here moaning about their country as any national would do. It's a wonderful sunny country. I was on holiday a few times there. I go ape when I go there, everything goes through the roof. Drive, energy. I'm from the more northern latitude countries, maybe I'm missing my B12 vitamins or something. It does something to me. Great place for creativity. I 'd write there If I could. I'd send you there for the cheap accomodation!

I think there are great adult games waiting to be made. Game's that would need 3 to 4 people going full time to get them done. Simple games, nothing that needs to be too complicated technically. I'd look at this as the only way to get those done and out there. I'll come back to this as an idea periodically.

 

[desmosome]

Maybe if you find 4 deadbeat, single guys whose life would be improved by undergoing what would essentially be indentured servitude in Spain.

Your proposal would only be considered by people who literally have nothing to lose. No family, no life, no job, no obligations. And that's if you manage to procure the money ahead of time. Let's face it, if you want to do this, that 7000 needs to come out of your own pockets. No one will invest in some random guy on F95zone with no prior experience/work to back up anything.

Plus, they have literally no stakes in the game. Profits from Patreon are not guaranteed, so they are doing work in exchange for rent/food. There is pretty much no incentive for them to try to actually make a game.

The patreon model works because porn game dev is largely an amateur endeavor. There are no big studios. No investors. No job security. But that also means there are no pressure, no deadlines (kind of), no commitments. You are asking people to go live in a foreign country and work on a game. That is a huge fucking commitment and they don't even get a salary.

 

[Joshua Tree]

If you going down that route, it's called create a game studio and HIRE people. So you would need to add running costs to your project in form of wages. People like to get paid for their work. No one gonna sit in a house with a handful of strangers to make a game they have no stakes in and not get paid for work on.

Start make your own game. If it do well, you can afford to spend of your patreon money (or however you get monetized), and start hire people to do work for you. Commission graphics, music, text, story whatever. People doesn't do these things without get anything back for it (usually).

 

[anne O'nymous]

People doesn't do these things without get anything back for it (usually).

But... Wouldn't "I did the codding for 'Drug and bang your family 3'" looks good in their resume ?

 

[Joshua Tree]

But... Wouldn't "I did the codding for 'Drug and bang your family 3'" looks good in their resume ?

If you want to go out in the big world and try apply for a mains stream game studio. Doing adult games in renpy is something you do NOT want to put on your resume, or something you want to showcase However if you talented at C++ java/javascript, html5, python etc... that something else.

 

[anne O'nymous]

[Back to seriousness]

If you want to go out in the big world and try apply for a mains stream game studio. Doing adult games in renpy is something you do NOT want to put on your resume, or something you want to showcase However if you talented at C++ java/javascript, html5, python etc... that something else.

What explain why it will be difficult for OP, but in fact anyone else, to find people working full time for/with him/them.
They can't let a hole in their resume. And neither, "was searching for my next job", nor, "was working on an adult game/for an adult game studio", would do it. The first one because if you were an interesting and competent collaborator, you would have found a job sooner, the latter because it's not serious enough.
They'll have to write that they took months/years off, dedicating them to their family by example, what can works only if you're past a certain age. Taking a year off is more believable when you're 35 than when you 25, just starting your career.