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Chinel

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Bro why are you being so sadistic? At least Aya deserves better, no? Laura is a bitch so I agree with her bad endings and same goes for Luca. But Aya shouldn't be wasted like this.

Since there is like a separate game for her, it wouldn't be too much to ask for a happy endings, no?
This is a game in which the main desire is suffering for one, pleasure for two and victory to the last. In my educated opinion, they don't get the wonderful taste of suffering really. How can one call himself a fan of NTR when they do not wish suffering on all characters? They all must lose their happiness and peace at the end of this, wondering if it was all worth it, Laura/Luca might conclude it was...and then they proceed to lose more and more until they are nothing but broken miserable shells in a far worse state than before...together with Harry and Aya.
Happy endings in NTR is cringe we just want Aya to be fucked to hell and back
Not just Aya.
Them ALL and fucked to hell and back in both meanings. They must be miserable and not even feeling pleasure in the end.
 
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Ilcoriglianese forte

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Difference between a valuable NTR that is based on betrayal for valid reasons, and low profile TRs like these games that only have the purpose of being mean towards a weak Mc, I don't understand these NTRs, on the contrary I find them bullies, a I count the story where we find ourselves with betrayals, enigmas, etc., but this being mean towards someone just for fun, what purpose do they have
 

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Difference between a valuable NTR that is based on betrayal for valid reasons, and low profile TRs like these games that only have the purpose of being mean towards a weak Mc, I don't understand these NTRs, on the contrary I find them bullies, a I count the story where we find ourselves with betrayals, enigmas, etc., but this being mean towards someone just for fun, what purpose do they have
You fundamentally misunderstood the essential concept of NTR. It's all about the dynamics between the inferiority complex of the cuck in contrast to the superiority complex of the bull in combination with the corruption of the woman. Bullying the cuckold, in his already theatrically existing inferiority complex, is not only needed but required. If the medium is from the perspective of the cuckold, so a maleMC netorare game, it becomes a necessity to the genre itself.
 
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Ilcoriglianese forte

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You fundamentally misunderstood the essential concept of NTR. It's all about the dynamics between the inferiority complex of the cuck in contrast to the superiority complex of the bull in combination with the corruption of the woman. Bullying the cuckold, in his already theatrically existing inferiority complex, is not only needed but required. If the medium is from the perspective of the cuckold, so a maleMC netorare game, it becomes a necessity to the genre itself.



In this game there is no dominant bull, but there is a bad guy who behind someone's back, with violent actions, cowardly wants to steal other people's women, I don't see anyone dominant, only someone who is a coward, because he only knows how to make himself strong through deception, without facing the direct, anything but dominant, this is just a scary worm.
 

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This is a game in which the main desire is suffering for one, pleasure for two and victory to the last. In my educated opinion, they don't get the wonderful taste of suffering really. How can one call himself a fan of NTR when they do not wish suffering on all characters? They all must lose their happiness and peace at the end of this, wondering if it was all worth it, Laura/Luca might conclude it was...and then they proceed to lose more and more until they are nothing but broken miserable shells in a far worse state than before...together with Harry and Aya.

Not just Aya.
Them ALL and fucked to hell and back in both meanings. They must be miserable and not even feeling pleasure in the end.
NTR is about the suffering of the cuck not the other characters.
Most NTR fans want the cuck's life to be destroyed and his wife/gf stolen.
Meanwhile the girl and the bull should be in an intense romantic/sexual relationship.
The contrast of the cuck's suffering vs the bull's satisfaction and the girl's pleasure is what gives NTR its main spice.

Everyone ending up miserable is just a tragic story. NTR is porn not literature.
 

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NTR is about the suffering of the cuck not the other characters.
Most NTR fans want the cuck's life to be destroyed and his wife/gf stolen.
Meanwhile the girl and the bull should be in an intense romantic/sexual relationship.
The contrast of the cuck's suffering vs the bull's satisfaction and the girl's pleasure is what gives NTR its main spice.

Everyone ending up miserable is just a tragic story. NTR is porn not literature.
NTR is not porn, or even literature. Netorare ( 寝取られ ) just means cockold. Of course it's also tragic in most cases. Tragic stories contain suffering. If the stolen character is emotionally attached at all to their previous relationship then they will suffer conflict. The bull/antagonist generally is the only character that doesn't suffer, but that's not always the case, in the best stories they do.

It's simply not true that most fans like the content you're describing, as the best most well liked NTR stories are at least long, but often contain characters with varied emotional states throughout the story and sex scenes. I don't speak for most fans, but I like the drama and conflict of the relationship as it's strained. Once that's over I want a conclusion, most stories skip this part. I personally like to see the characters get some resolution.

Some stories the antagonist is the girl with a half baked sexual relationship with a guy who she couldn't care less about aside from his dick. Using him only to get back at her bf/husband/childhood friend for some issue or another. It doesn't even have to be intense it could just be casual sexfriend relationship. She may just want a baby, or have his baby before the gf does.

That conflict between the easy hot new and steady warm established going on in the stolen character's head and body is the main spice to the sex scenes. The cuckold could be out of the loop for all that it matters, he may never know and just rise the antag's child unknowingly. She may never notice the other woman's children look alot like hers, or her Mom's child is not from her ex-husbands.

NTR in the context of a porn VN, without the story it's not effective at delivering the porn or a VN for that matter. A story is literature. Don't believe me? Have you read a 5 page or less netorare story? Was it any good? If it was, then read a 50 page or more story then compare the two.
 
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Haven't found the thread until a kind soul posted the link!. I guess new extra scenes and stuff gonna be shared here as well?
 
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Chinel

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NTR is about the suffering of the cuck not the other characters.
Most NTR fans want the cuck's life to be destroyed and his wife/gf stolen.
Meanwhile the girl and the bull should be in an intense romantic/sexual relationship.
The contrast of the cuck's suffering vs the bull's satisfaction and the girl's pleasure is what gives NTR its main spice.

Everyone ending up miserable is just a tragic story. NTR is porn not literature.
The Term 'Misery Porn' actually exists.
 
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do you gus think aya is a yandere ? , IMO i don't think she is, she's more like menhera to me

i mean if she's yandere how luca supposed to NTR her in the first place ?
 

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do you gus think aya is a yandere ? , IMO i don't think she is, she's more like menhera to me

i mean if she's yandere how luca supposed to NTR her in the first place ?
Oh yeah I totally think the girl who killed luca without batting an eye got laura kidnapped/pinned the blame on her and LITERALLY HAS A COLD CALCULATED SIDE THAT CONSTANTLY SCREAMS AT HER TO MURDER PEOPLE THE SECOND THEY TRY AND FUCK WITH HEHR is totally mentally sane and not a yandere...oh yeah she has crazy eyes for like a good chunk of the game too btw. hell even laura is a yandere to an extent lmao she got aya raped just to keep harry though neither of them can handle lucas MAGIC COCK
 
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do you gus think aya is a yandere ? , IMO i don't think she is, she's more like menhera to me

i mean if she's yandere how luca supposed to NTR her in the first place ?
I don't see why you can't NTR a yandere. The target of NTR normally loves the MC anyway. Yandere is just a more crazy form of love. Sure it might be harder to NTR a yandere, but it's fundamentally the same thing.

If anything, you could argue Yanderes are the perfect candidates for a NTR story. The stronger the character's personality and their love for the MC, the bigger the fall.
 
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