VN Ren'Py A Promise Best Left Unkept - Aya Edition [v0.7.3] [Hangover Cat]

[HangoverCat]

I'm the writer
A writer who can’t come up with anything new, the game about Aya practically repeats Laura, the other games are almost similar to each other! Is this writer's block? Or have you outlived as a writer? Because there is nothing new in your scribbles and games - everything is the same, just in different wrappers!

How constructive. Thank you.

 

[Zasor]

Same characters, same story!
- Laura - cum sendwich
- Aya - cum lozainya
Storytelling or "copy-pasting"?

True, it would have been much better if Aya had been abducted by aliens. But without any penetration, as that would be too close to the original. A 800k word slow burn genjutsu, everything is an illusion. The game ends with it being just a dream, last scene is a mirror revealing the reader has been a clown all along.

 

[8947289hkd]

i gotta have hard agree i don't know if this is storytelling or "copy-pasting"
- laura - has sex
- aya - has sex
there's even a character named harry in both stories who looks similar

no originality at all. there's even netorare in both...

 

[xeratzy]

True, it would have been much better if Aya had been abducted by aliens. But without any penetration, as that would be too close to the original. A 800k word slow burn genjutsu, everything is an illusion. The game ends with it being just a dream, last scene is a mirror revealing the reader has been a clown all along.

Better add a unicorn that makes people into willing cucks by stabbing them, much more appealing plot and would def make it more realistic.

 

[ZUBiDAM]

Same characters, same story!
- Laura - cum sendwich
- Aya - cum lozainya
Storytelling or "copy-pasting"?

good guy wins in the end?
yes so that's the majority of any fiction, it's pretty much a rule.
in ntr the Heroine gets corrupted, that's a rule.
in 99% of the games here there is mc pushing his dick between a girl's cheeks, are they all the same?
just giving one example of something similar between two seperate works doesn't make them exactly the same.

 

[Requiem1102]

Luca is gay. For some reason he has a hard on the idea of having Harry consuming his cum like some femboy.

would be a funny ass bonus scene if he ntr'd harry so he could turn bro into his bitch LMAOOOOOOOOOO

 

[xcalibar4]

So there's gonna be 2 ending at-least!!
I hated this variant of Harry more than Laure variant but in this update at-least he is coming around.
Maybe this time Aya will understand that Harry is human like everyone else with flaws and faults.
And Luca will be dealt with this time for sure!! I know wishful thinking , then when will he corrupt Sara & Laura with Aya's help?

 

[Requiem1102]

So there's gonna be 2 ending at-least!!
I hated this variant of Harry more than Laure variant but in this update at-least he is coming around.
Maybe this time Aya will understand that Harry is human like everyone else with flaws and faults.
And Luca will be dealt with this time for sure!! I know wishful thinking , then when will he corrupt Sara & Laura with Aya's help?

i dont think theres gonna be that much of a change


Ending A. Harry goes into the infirmary mentions laura as Aya gets fully corrupted threesome scene with laura and aya whatever happens to harry happens either be it his death or abandonment


Ending B. Harry doesnt go into the infirmary Aya prob doesnt get fully corrupted (i doubt it though) either she doesnt kills Luca and/or her father after Luca tries to make her have a threesome with Laura or she fails gets corrupted and we have a oblivious cuck ending for Harry since it would be likely that harry doesnt chase after Aya when shes going to sneak out if he doesnt enter the infirmary

 

[ZUBiDAM]

So there's gonna be 2 ending at-least!!
I hated this variant of Harry more than Laure variant but in this update at-least he is coming around.
Maybe this time Aya will understand that Harry is human like everyone else with flaws and faults.
And Luca will be dealt with this time for sure!! I know wishful thinking , then when will he corrupt Sara & Laura with Aya's help?

aya already understands that at this part of the story, that's the reason she starts to have other feelings and impulses towards him(of the sadistic kind)
i definitely think aya will help luca corrupt laura, maybe the short relationship between luca and Laura will be one of the cards to use against her as a blackmail and in order to torment harry- that's what this game is about

 

[FistfulofDust]

My most truthful and honest to God reaction to this update(that's a joke):

 

[abirvg]

People telling me that Aya is not the same as the original and that I should write a completely different game because she would never be corrupted by the current story is not constructive at all. The fact of the matter is that if Aya cannot be corrupted by the current story, then she would never be corrupted period. And if she cannot be corrupted, then what's the point of writing a game for her? This is not an easy story to write and anyone who makes it seem otherwise knows nothing about storytelling.

Some people think Aya is not the same, fair enough. But I think she is the same. And since I'm the writer, I guess people will just have to deal with that fact.

Parsing the feedback on the internet is always hard.

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If I were to be useful - and have to put aside my personal preferences, just summarizing the comments that I read - I'd say:
- "Aya that doesn't fight back is not really interesting."

Hence, people - emotionally - write that "she is different" => means "she feels different".
Because it really is different - the composition of her scenes when she meaningfully fights back and when she just 'talks' about fighting back is completely different.

Just compare how the sex scenes with Aya were constructed in the first game - when people got so hyped about her character - with how they are now.

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Now, can you even 'corrupt' a girl who is still fighting back?
Of course you can. 'Corruption' doesn't mean removing every bone in her soul. You can get her addicted to exhibitionism, BDSM sex, daddy issues - addicted so hard that she never would want to give it up.
But if you say 'corruption' is about submitting to every Luca's word without ever fighting back - then yes, of course she'll become just a reskin of Laura from the last game.
They walked different roads to this point, they have different thoughts even by the end - but the way you construct their sex scenes is completely interchangeable.

You can swap Aya for Laura in any sex scene - and they will work perfectly, without needing any major changes.

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The criticisms are legit. But the wording's always fucked up. Obviously. People are not writers.
Just remember: you are one of the best writers on this site - if not the best. There's some stuff in this game that no other game has. And the criticism comes from the people who care. I, for one, would never write so many words for a game I don't give a fuck about.

 

[BrandonX13]

Same characters, same story!
- Laura - cum sendwich
- Aya - cum lozainya
Storytelling or "copy-pasting"?

You literally proved his point you just don't want Aya to be corrupted lol newsflash any girl harry pulls can see stolen as dude is just a loser holier then thou cuck

 

[Mountainbeast00]

Parsing the feedback on the internet is always hard.

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If I were to be useful - and have to put aside my personal preferences, just summarizing the comments that I read - I'd say:
- "Aya that doesn't fight back is not really interesting."

Hence, people - emotionally - write that "she is different" => means "she feels different".
Because it really is different - the composition of her scenes when she meaningfully fights back and when she just 'talks' about fighting back is completely different.

Just compare how the sex scenes with Aya were constructed in the first game - when people got so hyped about her character - with how they are now.

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Now, can you even 'corrupt' a girl who is still fighting back?
Of course you can. 'Corruption' doesn't mean removing every bone in her soul. You can get her addicted to exhibitionism, BDSM sex, daddy issues - addicted so hard that she never would want to give it up.
But if you say 'corruption' is about submitting to every Luca's word without ever fighting back - then yes, of course she'll become just a reskin of Laura from the last game.
They walked different roads to this point, they have different thoughts even by the end - but the way you construct their sex scenes is completely interchangeable.

You can swap Aya for Laura in any sex scene - and they will work perfectly, without needing any major changes.

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The criticisms are legit. But the wording's always fucked up. Obviously. People are not writers.

Saying that Aya and Laura could be swapped for any sex scene and everything would be the same is crazy. This is what dev means by not understanding storytelling lol.

 

[abirvg]

Saying that Aya and Laura could be swapped for any sex scene and everything would be the same is crazy. This is what dev means by not understanding storytelling lol.

Ok, give an example.

 

[ItsNotUs]

good guy wins in the end?
yes so that's the majority of any fiction, it's pretty much a rule.
in ntr the Heroine gets corrupted, that's a rule.
in 99% of the games here there is mc pushing his dick between a girl's cheeks, are they all the same?
just giving one example of something similar between two seperate works doesn't make them exactly the same.

In a game with multiple endings, why is such an outcome not possible? And let’s remember that at the very beginning of this project the cat had a vote on which "story line" about Aya the fans want to see, corruption or love (or, i don’t remember exactly, the ending). Yes, most voted for corruption, but 40%+ voted for love! It turns out that the dev doesn’t give a damn about the opinions of his fans, those people who pay him, he only satisfies the needs of the majority, those people who only want to see humiliation, etc.
I don't hint or talk about how he should make his games, but many people hoped that the story about Aya might be different - but in fact, this is the same story, no more no less!
Wouldn't it be better to make a new full-fledged story with new characters in a new universe (even with aliens - why not)?
I can understand the fans who are ready to watch the prequel of the series House of Dragons, but here are the same fans who want to see only humiliation and pain in which wrapper it will not matter to them, and this is what the cat takes advantage of - why create something new if you can milk the old one!

 

[ItsNotUs]

You proved his point you just don't want Aya to be corrupted lol newsflash any girl harry pulls can see stolen as dude is just a loser holier then thou cuck

You literally copied the post of another guy above and added a little of your own/ lol

I don’t care what happens to Aya (i wrote about the same vote above) because nothing new will happen, the same fall, the same victory of the magic D and the collapse of the loser Harry - what is the interest?
It's like the the cartoon Watchmens, i thought that there might be a different story or an addition, but no, it's the same story only now it's a cartoon Lol! No thanks/

 

[hd0518]

I like Aya's predator stance . Very contrasting and sexy

 

[BL45T]

Parsing the feedback on the internet is always hard.

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If I were to be useful - and have to put aside my personal preferences, just summarizing the comments that I read - I'd say:
- "Aya that doesn't fight back is not really interesting."

Hence, people - emotionally - write that "she is different" => means "she feels different".
Because it really is different - the composition of her scenes when she meaningfully fights back and when she just 'talks' about fighting back is completely different.

Just compare how the sex scenes with Aya were constructed in the first game - when people got so hyped about her character - with how they are now.

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Now, can you even 'corrupt' a girl who is still fighting back?
Of course you can. 'Corruption' doesn't mean removing every bone in her soul. You can get her addicted to exhibitionism, BDSM sex, daddy issues - addicted so hard that she never would want to give it up.
But if you say 'corruption' is about submitting to every Luca's word without ever fighting back - then yes, of course she'll become just a reskin of Laura from the last game.
They walked different roads to this point, they have different thoughts even by the end - but the way you construct their sex scenes is completely interchangeable.

You can swap Aya for Laura in any sex scene - and they will work perfectly, without needing any major changes.

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The criticisms are legit. But the wording's always fucked up. Obviously. People are not writers.
Just remember: you are one of the best writers on this site - if not the best. There's some stuff in this game that no other game has. And the criticism comes from the people who care. I, for one, would never write so many words for a game I don't give a fuck about.

There we go, I dont think this can be explained in a better way than this. This is it. After this I don't think there needs to be any more heated discussion on this. This perfectly sums it up.

 

[Zasor]

In a game with multiple endings, why is such an outcome not possible? And let’s remember that at the very beginning of this project the cat had a vote on which "story line" about Aya the fans want to see, corruption or love (or, i don’t remember exactly, the ending). Yes, most voted for corruption, but 40%+ voted for love! It turns out that the dev doesn’t give a damn about the opinions of his fans, those people who pay him, he only satisfies the needs of the majority, those people who only want to see humiliation, etc.
I don't hint or talk about how he should make his games, but many people hoped that the story about Aya might be different - but in fact, this is the same story, no more no less!
Wouldn't it be better to make a new full-fledged story with new characters in a new universe (even with aliens - why not)?
I can understand the fans who are ready to watch the prequel of the series House of Dragons, but here are the same fans who want to see only humiliation and pain in which wrapper it will not matter to them, and this is what the cat takes advantage of - why create something new if you can milk the old one!

You actively chose to play Netorare.
You even played the original, waited months for the sequel because you somehow convinced yourself that the sequel would be about pure love, and now you're making the Pikachu face because Aya gets fucked by someone other than Harry.

 

[ItsNotUs]

You actively chose to play Netorare.
You even played the original, waited months for the sequel because you somehow convinced yourself that the sequel would be about pure love, and now you're making the Pikachu face because Aya gets fucked by someone other than Harry.

Yes, i played the original and at first i even liked it very much - there was a subtle psychological game and then one after another the same bad endings where the hero suffers more and more, and from different situations! What's interesting about this - 100500 bad endings!
And haven't you heard about Aya voting? Don't pretend to be a stupid - ok?

P.S: и прочисти засор у себя в голове явно поможет понимать людей лучше!