VN Ren'Py A Ring or the Shield [Week-1] [Mr.Nonnypants]

[idfkru]

U should not make it hard,it can only annoy players.Nobody wants to 2 hours to figure out what to do.We in your mind it’s a porn game not PS5 game lol

I was going to bring that up after finding out about how prevalent long-term consequences will be in the game: if there are seemingly minor choices that have consequences later but it isn't clear which decision point it is, I can see many people getting annoyed and quitting the game/constantly complaining. I'd suggest maybe adding some internal monologue from the MC right before the choice with a touch of foreshadowing so people can figure that out and use it as a save point to go back to (or connect the dots on a second playthrough), vice starting from scratch and trying to figure out where they went wrong in whatever direction they're trying for. From what I can tell you may have already implemented this concept, like the citizenship choice or asking both the FBI and boss for apartment help, but no way to know for sure this early on in the game. I think most people will be fine with that design even if they have to go back relatively far to change it, as long as there's a fairly straightforward way of figuring it out (doesn't have to be spelled out or have a * or anything like that), and isn't one of seemingly meaningless choices which takes people forever to find.

So far everything is 10/10 from character design to story progression. Based on what I've seen, I can tell I'm going to be a fan of the game even it involves some grind in figuring out what to do. Just figured I'd bring this up as I've already seen a number of people talking about needing a walkthrough, etc. People will complain on this forum no matter what you do or don't do so you can't really win here lol, at the end of the day just make the game according to your vision for it and ignore the haters, but figured I'd try to help alleviate some of that with some hopefully helpful input

 

[krugeer]

I have a question, are the scenes shown currently available or will they be added in the future?

 

[idfkru]

I have a question, are the scenes shown currently available or will they be added in the future? View attachment 5143292

All currently available, except for the goth girl one I think, unless I'm just forgetting seeing it. There's a handful more in the game that aren't shown here too.

P.S. I recommend completely blowing your cover at the interview portion with the gang, just save before or roll back as long as you don't click too far after the 2nd image, otherwise it will kick you back to main menu.

 

[longjohngold]

This is very promising.

Only slight knock is the AI art, not that it's used, but just it means sometimes people's outfits will randomly swap around and stuff, and I hope that when things do get wild with multiple people in a CG it'll kinda work out okay.

That said, I find the picture supplementary to a good story, and this has an excellent premise. Basically the Tyrant but without the janky sandbox (thankfully). I'll look forward to see this all come together, there are quite a lot of characters so I just hope it's not too ambitious. From the way they're talking about the younger girl's bf I'm fully expecting them to be a sissy. I dig that goth girl at work too, even if she's a bit out of place.

But yeah, really want to see this developed more and I hope it lives long enough to see it all through, or at least get to the good stuff.

 

[kurosx]

Mr.Nonnypants

Two corrections so far on day 1:



Who doesn't see himself as the main character in his own life?

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[fsdkjfslkef]

Difficulty seemed perfectly fine, especially with since ren'py gives you the ability to roll back to see different variations (mom's facial expression seemingly reflecting if it's a good answer or not is a nice touch), which leads me to a question: will there be a lot of choices where we don't get to see the effects until much later in the game? I'm guessing it's safe to assume that'll be the case with the cover questions (citizenship, heavyweight vs lightweight, etc.), but will that be a common theme or are those the exception? And a follow-up to that is do some scenes only unlock behind a combination of specific choices (e.g. say "I'm not sure" when asking if you're sure the phone is clean, but then only swap the sim, or maybe even seemingly unrelated choices) or is it more of an additive system of "x answer adds +1 cover degradation, y answer doesn't". I replayed the game with I think every combination to see if I missed anything, would be good to know if that's worth doing as the game develops and there are more and more choices to keep track of.

Loving the game so far, will definitely be keeping a close eye on it, best of luck!

Mr.Nonnypants this seems nice idea something like additive system would be glad, else in future it will be a big pain in the ass, I don't want to start over and over to check every choices to find all CG

 

[Raul]

can't wait for the next update, i love it so far

 

[Mr.Nonnypants]

Will there be a lot of choices where we don't get to see the effects until much later in the game? I'm guessing it's safe to assume that'll be the case with the cover questions (citizenship, heavyweight vs lightweight, etc.), but will that be a common theme or are those the exception?

I hope you remember those cover questions. If not, remember to lubricate your scroll wheel.
Context will indicate the level of choice importance in most instances and the effects of certain major choices will be shown only later.

And a follow-up to that is do some scenes only unlock behind a combination of specific choices (e.g. say "I'm not sure" when asking if you're sure the phone is clean, but then only swap the sim, or maybe even seemingly unrelated choices) or is it more of an additive system of "x answer adds +1 cover degradation, y answer doesn't". I replayed the game with I think every combination to see if I missed anything, would be good to know if that's worth doing as the game develops and there are more and more choices to keep track of.

Loving the game so far, will definitely be keeping a close eye on it, best of luck!

Mr.Nonnypants this seems nice idea something like additive system would be glad, else in future it will be a big pain in the ass, I don't want to start over and over to check every choices to find all CG

Both. The cover an additive system however individual scenes can be triggered based on a combination of choices, i.e. which scene you get when making lunch.
Also is the game good enough that you would be willing to play through an update multiple times to get different scenes?

U got right there is choice that u will see their consequences later,some choice don’t matter or little impact it’s what the dev told me by DM

Let me clarify what I said as I might have been a bit vague or incorrectly explained my intention. Every player choice has an effect, for some its as simple as a different line of dialogue, for others it might only be shown 3 updates from now but decides the possible ending of a side plot. I don't intend on including choices that change absolutely nothing, I hope.

If there are seemingly minor choices that have consequences later but it isn't clear which decision point it is.

So far everything is 10/10 from character design to story progression. Based on what I've seen, I can tell I'm going to be a fan of the game even it involves some grind in figuring out what to do. Just figured I'd bring this up as I've already seen a number of people talking about needing a walkthrough, etc. People will complain on this forum no matter what you do or don't do so you can't really win here lol, at the end of the day just make the game according to your vision for it and ignore the haters, but figured I'd try to help alleviate some of that with some hopefully helpful input

Seemingly minor choices can only modify the extent of results while major choices decide those results.
Appreciate the vote of confidence. I have decided I won't put out a walkthrough unless I open avenues for financial support.

 

[Eleanorduval]

I hope you remember those cover questions. If not, remember to lubricate your scroll wheel.
Context will indicate the level of choice importance in most instances and the effects of certain major choices will be shown only later.





Both. The cover an additive system however individual scenes can be triggered based on a combination of choices, i.e. which scene you get when making lunch.
Also is the game good enough that you would be willing to play through an update multiple times to get different scenes?


Let me clarify what I said as I might have been a bit vague or incorrectly explained my intention. Every player choice has an effect, for some its as simple as a different line of dialogue, for others it might only be shown 3 updates from now but decides the possible ending of a side plot. I don't intend on including choices that change absolutely nothing, I hope.


Seemingly minor choices can only modify the extent of results while major choices decide those results.
Appreciate the vote of confidence. I have decided I won't put out a walkthrough unless I open avenues for financial support.

I think there some people here who make walkthrough for free.

 

[Mr.Nonnypants]

This is very promising.

Only slight knock is the AI art, not that it's used, but just it means sometimes people's outfits will randomly swap around and stuff, and I hope that when things do get wild with multiple people in a CG it'll kinda work out okay.

That said, I find the picture supplementary to a good story, and this has an excellent premise. Basically the Tyrant but without the janky sandbox (thankfully). I'll look forward to see this all come together, there are quite a lot of characters so I just hope it's not too ambitious. From the way they're talking about the younger girl's bf I'm fully expecting them to be a sissy. I dig that goth girl at work too, even if she's a bit out of place.

But yeah, really want to see this developed more and I hope it lives long enough to see it all through, or at least get to the good stuff.

Yeah, consistency is a major problem with generative artificial intelligence however I can't focus on it too much or I would be spending all my free time on getting images exactly right.

I find the picture supplementary to a good story,

This is the best way to view this project. If the story isn't interesting then I doubt my lack of artistic skill will draw people in.

From the way they're talking about the younger girl's bf I'm fully expecting them to be a sissy.

I will go ahead and spoil this since I don't want the wrong impression. He is not a sissy.

 

[Mr.Nonnypants]

Mr.Nonnypants

Two corrections so far on day 1:

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Who doesn't see himself as the main character in his own life?

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Ah thanks. Ill have all these minor bugs fixed in the next release.

 

[longjohngold]

I will go ahead and spoil this since I don't want the wrong impression. He is not a sissy.

Ah shame, was something The Tyrant was missing, woulda been fun adding him to the pile of sluts. Then I wonder why no one is supposed to be worried about the younger girl being with him, maybe super religious and a wait-till-marriage type? But that wouldn't seem a likely match with her overall vibe. Guess I'll have to wait to find out.

 

[idfkru]

Mr.Nonnypants this seems nice idea something like additive system would be glad, else in future it will be a big pain in the ass, I don't want to start over and over to check every choices to find all CG

Tbh I kind of like the design of specific choices having consequences down the line, gives the story more depth IMO. With that said, I think most people won't want to replay more than 2 or 3 times at most, so it needs to be a carefully crafted balance to not be too convoluted. Far as I can tell dev is on the right track, remains to be seen I guess.

I don't have the time nor motivation to be making walkthroughs, but if the game progresses nicely I'll probably scan through code for future updates and drop decision points for less obvious scenes as spoilers here to help people out.

 

[idfkru]

Ah thanks. Ill have all these minor bugs fixed in the next release.

On the topic of bugs, picking to intervene or not in the Amanda/Cruise race on day 3 leads to the same outcome. I looked at the code and there's a variable change but no code for the race going a different way so I'm assuming there's just no content yet, but thought I'd let you know in case you accidentally published the wrong version of the file or something along those lines.

 

[Jungles70]

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[krugeer]

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¿Cuándo planeas implementar las representaciones de Tank y la prostituta más la prostituta encubierta Cecilia (me encantó la obra de arte allí)? El juego ahora mismo comienza en el estacionamiento...¡¡¡Me gusta lo que hiciste con la escena del dormitorio y el avatar de Cecilia!!!:amor: También me gustó mucho la milf rubia de "Coming of the storms". Aún no la jugué... ¡solo admiro sus imágenes!
[/CITA]
this game ' Coming of the storms ' is in f95?

 

[Eleanorduval]

On the topic of bugs, picking to intervene or not in the Amanda/Cruise race on day 3 leads to the same outcome. I looked at the code and there's a variable change but no code for the race going a different way so I'm assuming there's just no content yet, but thought I'd let you know in case you accidentally published the wrong version of the file or something along those lines.

I find it strange too!There is pts for cover but I wonder,if some action give love pts if u do something they like or protect them.

 

[fsdkjfslkef]

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any body know how to get this cg? I only go the one with licking but not this one or the one witg spoon licking or it is not included? and if it is invluded any idea how to get it? tell me someone

 

[idfkru]

any body know how to get this cg? I only go the one with licking but not this one or the one witg spoon licking or it is not included? and if it is invluded any idea how to get it? tell me someone

That scene depends on her cover degradation up until that point. If I remember correctly that specific scene happens if her cover is pretty much completely intact (not showing off her tits) but then during the cooking scene you mess up twice: asking about why he's watching her and new hires and the spoon one is a middle ground between her licking his finger and this scene.

Play around with that, but if you're still stuck lmk and I can go back and double check

 

[fsdkjfslkef]

That scene depends on her cover degradation up until that point. If I remember correctly that specific scene happens if her cover is pretty much completely intact (not showing off her tits) but then during the cooking scene you mess up twice: asking about why he's watching her and new hires and the spoon one is a middle ground between her licking his finger and this scene.

Play around with that, but if you're still stuck lmk and I can go back and double check

she does show tits during first interrogation but later found nothing can you double check and let me know?