VN - Ren'Py - A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

I rate this game as terrible, not because I believe its not worth a better evaluation, but because it belongs to a category that has nothing to do with porn, but rather "erotica".

People complain (rightfully so, coz we're here on a site evaluating porn games) there has not been a single sex event outside the faithful wife route (in my opinion, completely pointless for somebody wishing to play a porn game). Oh yeah, sorry, except that scene where the son obediently finishes on his towel at his mother's request...

But I don't even see at this point how the developper can even start including serious porn. By the way, why would rendering a sex scene take more time and energy than rendering scenes of her brushing her teeth or loading the washing machine?

Porn is a fantasy, a deliberate departure from reality and its tediousness. I can't stand frankly the "its got to be realistic" argument. How could a mother starting a sexual relationship with her own kids ever be realistic, and if so, what remains a funny, exciting taboo in the porn dimension would become a disgusting, morbid crime in real life.

What should be, if this game ever sees Sophia the mom character giving her son a blow-job for example, a more or less immediate immersion into a crazy, totally implausible world of hyper-seductive, corrupted/corrupting MILFS, would become, in this game, strange and perhaps even sickening, precisely because the developper has, very successfully I believe, created a rather plausible world.

Nothing puts me off more than mixing porn and plausibility. But simply put, my evaluation's purpose is to inform those who want a porn game to look elsewhere.

Definitely was leaning on becoming a Patreon at first because I liked the slow burn and quality of renders. I liked how the female MC looked, and that matters a lot for me as I want to imagine myself at least in a reasonable way.

But, I got to the point where I am being blackmailed by some loser, and I did a hard stop at that point. I am really tired of female characters completely falling prey to this exact thing over and over in so many games when in real life if anyone tried that on me, I would literally destroy their entire life and family and enjoy it. So I can't enjoy that kind of unavoidable situation. I still think the game will appeal to a lot of men and some females that are more submissive. I hope people enjoy it

I think this game has the most teasing in the history of adult games. I get that you don't want to jump too soon into the H stuff, but it's getting ridiculous at this point (which I've said before). I bet when we actually get HJ and BJ form this game, it won't even be satisfying because the game will be nearing to an end at that point... Forget about the actual sex cause the only chance of that happening seems to be at the actual game ending.

In my opinion, the game also has too many characters what makes pleasing everyone even harder. There are some unnecessary renders as well.

Good wife path is totally worthless cause she doesn't fuck her husband enough (I know he's a looser, but still)
Filthy path should be called a teasing path instead (at least then it's actually true to the purpose).

I know, the dev aims for realism, but this is an ADULT game for God's sake. Enough is enough. There are good examples of semi-realistic games that don't need this much teasing to tell a story. However, he makes like 5K+ a month, so I guess he's doing something right.

As of now, I rate this 4 stars purely because of the render quality.

great game, great renderings and characters, the plot is good, I like that it is divided into several parts and unlocks different scenes, but:
on the one hand it leads the player to continue playing to get new scenes, on the other hand you risk losing some scenes and need to have more saves.
I also notice a lot of slowness in loading the scenes, perhaps caused by the high rendering.
Too bad for the few sex scenes not yet available, we hope for future updates

update after v0.85
excellent continuation of the plot, there are some nice renderings, but the contents of the new update are very few for the waiting time, I go down to 3 stars

update after v1.00
the number of renderings is considerable, but the story has advanced too little; the game starts with the render of sophia sleeping, the render after is the same with only the different alarm time; many renderings useless and then the main scenes, such as sex with her husband, have animations consisting of only 2 frames. too much eroticism and little sexual content; I'm not saying that the MC has to fuck right and left but something hotter should happen, I confirm 3 stars

revision of the review after version 0.115
I confirm the above, too much time for little content.
the graphics are great but the story does not advance
I go down to 2 stars

THE GAME IS BEST ON THIS SITE !! 5 STARS LIKE BLINK OF THE EYE.
GOOD THINGS FIRST:
- best 3d models
- best plot
- best longevity (but not also great, I hate in 97% of games we have sex scenes too early too soon so u lost curiosity and imagination)
- best characters (not same like in many games where all NPCs are empty)
NOW FOR THE WORST PART:
- dev said he have to go to surgery in september , it smells like many great games from the past that this could be abandoned
- waiting too long for updates but some of them are really short and not satisfaction at all, don't lose focus from master piece by starting too many projects , this one is your best and 4get about what other stupid ppl will say, you did best job here by not letting us fucking mom after 2 updates only like 97% of the games here...
WISH U EVERYTHING BEST ON THAT SURGERY MAN

Review after v0.08

This must be the game with the most renders i've ever played! And the quality is excellent.
Basically the game isn't very original. A middle-aged woman who up to the beginning of the game behaves like a good housewife and a mother, in a matter of a few weeks is about to have sex with half the town including her children for whatever reason. The model Sophia is amazingly beautiful, just like most of the female characters of this game.

Pros
Renders in high quality and quantity
A lot of content
Some genuinely interesting and original storylines like the boy next door having a crush on his milf neighbour and trying to cop a feel during music or other lessons.
I guess there are routes where you decide if the mother goes filth or stays faith or is interested in women, but if you try to play the faith route you don't see much content.
No sex immediately, but building up the relationship with every possible candidate. For some characters that works, although it can get a bit frustrating.

Cons
While you can't see some scenes if the mother isn't filth enough, i would like the same to happen if she's faith enough. But now in order to see the full scenes, you always have to go with the filth one.
I don't get the point of having her son lusting after her since there's the neighbours boy also lusting after her and it's practically the same storyline for both.
Sophia acting as if she's never considered that someone might find her attractive because she's married and a mother is a stupid logic.
Her son is stupid and his storyline boring. I get the necessity of incest but he's an arsehole.

The worst negative though for me is that there are too many characters. The possible characters that Sophia can have sex with are, her children, her children's friends, her neighbours, her mailman, her brother-in-law, the constructor workers, her sister, her gym instructor, her coworker, her students, her student's parents, school workers, old guys in a clinic, random creeps, random college students, etc. This is insane! And i bet until the end more characters will appear!

I would rate this game as 3/5, but i give 5 stars because of the renders. It shows that this game is a result of a lot of effort and i respect that.

To be honest, I rather enjoyed this game. I didn't particularly care about the lack of any real content and just kinda enjoyed the story but at the point of the mother being blackmailed by the school kid? Na that shit's just too stupid.

Good while it lasted but too stupid to continue playing.

Renders are ok, story was ok but it kinda feels like the developer is trying to throw more plot into the mix for the sake of padding as opposed to focusing on what has already been established.

Edit: Sorry, it's 1 star now. It's been a year since my review and longer than that since the game was out and there's been almost nothing to suggest it's going anywhere. The renders are ok but they're so vanilla does it even matter? The plot is nonsensical and it seems the characters are made stupid for the point of plot progression which sticks out like a sore thumb. Avoid this game. In comparison it's basically like the last season of the Office. Not the good seasons, just the last "how do we stretch this out"one.

I think the main difficulty in a sex game is finding the balance between a good story and sex without making the protagonist immediately a bitch.
For this game have it has attractive characters, a good story. A lot of opportunity to develop the erotic side and make good scenes ... but almost not exploited despite a game time already substantial.
It's a pity that even following the "filthy road" after so much time of play the player does not even enjoy a masturbation scene and offers only 2 sex scene with her husband without pussy view.
For a game sold as with exhibition, incest and the possibility of lesbian scenes. By playing more than 15 days in the game there is something to feel a little deceived.
Maybe the author lacks imagination to go to the end of the erotic side of a sexgame. If the successful author has to include a little more eroticism and developed the protagonist's corruption the game could simply be among the best.

This game will surprise you once you start playing, you're going to think you lay your hands on a masterpiece only to find out that it is extremely disappointing after 5 minutes of play
this game is only about filler scenes, nothing important, you spend your time, watching them conversing, getting into cars, going places
imo the characters aren't even hot, the only thing that made me try to play this game is the title
and for players making the hype about the next update, trust me, you're going to be disappointed again.
my verdict this is a little useless game, play it if you have nothing else to do but I doubt because there are lots of great and better games out there

Current version 0.775 and the game is roughly 1/3 complete.

This game is the digital equivalent of that hot female friend of yours that you will help move, mow the lawn for, play the guitar for, help with school work, do every little thing for... but you are stuck in the friend zone with no way out any time soon.

Graphically this game is superb. The renders are of high quality, and there are like 4 or 5 thousand of them so far.

Unfortunately 90% of the renders are "non-nude, non-erotic images". Not erotic even in the slightest. Crap like a woman walking to a car, or sitting at a desk, or people conversing around the dinner table, or other non-sexual imagery.

The next biggest category of images would be about 5% of the total images of the "sports illustrated cover/victoria secret" tier non-nude images. These are better than the majority of images but still not sexual enough. These are not adult images, but they are more enjoyable to look at than the other non-erotic images.

Next up would be what I consider to be "brief nudity" a quick shot of her butt in the shower for instance. This is about 2.5% of the images.

Next up would be what I consider to be "soft-core non-nude pornography". taking about 2% of the images. This can be things like rubbing a girls butt at the gym, or a boy "accidentally" grinding his wang in his gym shorts on sophia's butt, or a massage.

Next up are about 0.4% of the images that are "almost hardcore porn" but not hardcore porn. This can include things like almost getting raped, but escaping for instance.

Finally rounding it up with the 0.1% of images is "actual hardcore imagry" there is like 1 scene of Sophia blowing her husband real quick, and 1 of her spying on the neighbors and that's it.

Eventually, these numbers will change, and when they do I'll rate the game higher than it is. Until this breakdown changes and the game is made more erotic my rating will remain low.

Character wise Sophia is great, and is a very lovable person.

All that being said... Gotta love the game anyways even though it blue balls the hell out of you.

The game is only version 0.0775 right now, so obviously there's plenty more content planned. However, considering there's multiple hours of content right now, I think there's enough content to get an idea of the style and outline, and write a review.

There's a lot of good in this game. The models are great, the characters and story are fleshed out from beat to beat, and it's obvious that the creator is passionate and dedicated to realizing a vision in this game. Some of the sensual scenes are quite spicy and well written. There is good writing in this game. However, there are pacing problems in at least two ways.

First, although the creator of A Wife and Mother does a good job of making their characters feel alive with histories and interests, I think there's sometimes too much time given to banter. For example, there's a scene where the mother and her sister are going to the gym to workout, and probably about 500 words are given to topics of how the kids are doing, what hairstyles they're doing lately, and various fashion choices. While this is absolutely organic and how people would likely pass the time in real life, it's not at all interesting or important to the story. If the kids were brought up because the mom had conflicted thoughts, or if fashion were brought up because the mom were dressing sluttier and the sister noticed it, this might be interesting writing. But no. This is literally just small talk to fill space and waste time.

Second, there are unskippable sound clips, transitioning scenes, and other things that literally double this game's playtime. For example, there's a scene where the mother goes to take a swim in the pool, and to convey this movement (and, probably more likely, to show her bathing suit in different angles) the creator adds four different still shots of the mother, with each one having a mandatory two second show time. At another point, I had to stare at one of the character's sports cars while a sound clip of engine revving played for five seconds. I appreciated these effects the first couple of times, I recognize that some people probably still dig them every time, and the creator is no doubt proud of his compositions, but I don't think mandatory delays are ever a good idea.

Overall, I still enjoyed A Wife and Mother and think if the story and code were edited with an eye for brevity, it would be an excellent game. In its current state, however, I'd be reluctant to recommend it.

This game looks great, but it doesn't play well.

There is a point system for the various characters and three more general categories. Good Wife points are for staying loyal, Filthy points are for being promiscuous, and Lesbian Temptation points are for being interested in women. Or at least in theory. The reality of the game is a bit different, as your actions don't get divided up so neatly. Often you will gain Good Wife points for simply standing up for yourself instead of allowing a creep to molest you. So, it appears that if you want to have Sophia cheat on her husband, she must first be degraded, humiliated, and have no sense of self-worth. Although, I could be wrong, since there is still no sexual content for her in the game except with her husband.

The game has numerous subplots that don't go anywhere. For example, Sophia has been blackmailed on three separate occasions by three separate people, and none of these subplots have been concluded yet. It gives the impression that the author doesn't really have a plan for how the game will play out and is just re-using ideas to pad it out. Which is the last thing the game needs. There are a few fun moments in the game, but it seems to be slowly going nowhere. New characters and side stories get added, but never fleshed out. I suspect that the game has already sprawled out too much to ever get completed.

Very little content for the amount of time invested at the start. The story and choices are important but there needs to be a compromise with content. There should be some form of unskippable content that can showcase the work's skill and the stuff that the player's can look forwad too, essentially teasing them.

3 star v0.160 (Part 2):
Here we hare the game was good befor.
But now I can't even play withoutfinishedel previs par so colled "Part 1" to play so called "Part 2" I could play it even i finished. For me this second part is unplaybe for lot of rease. W need to downloda the fix save 1 and 2 tobe able oto play the second part.

Bad in Part 2:
1) save system are forcfull need to be used bu th lasted version of v0.150 save fix and folder save for the previous one and new game can't even start.
2) When I clickstart the game he force me shoot to game. I can't even play neight to choise what kind of choise I had alred mad in the least Part 1.

Suggestion:
get ride ot the mere save sistem and put what kind of choise wemad in the Part 1 of the game, with lot of situation with system point .You really should make what we aledy did with this withou be forced to make our live and playthought the gamecomplicated. Du the fact with this kind of sisytm the deve implament with finishefirst last version to make it unplaybale and unpleacent for all players.

5 star until v0.150
Exellent Game. More are work on it, must be exellent to the end. I phink story is awsome. Characters are very strong personality. I phink this Game have a future to coninue with other phate and story. I'm very, very curios how continue in. I think maybe a futa charcater can be present: maybe other sister or nwe charcter meat Sophia, and coure seduce her. It very exellent game and choise. I think you could continua withe the serie and maybe make the cheats mod for see wath appen. I love this game.

The game is told very slowly and deliberately. The main character's corruption is actually realistic and believable (which also extends to the supporting characters. Everyone acts pretty much like real people would, though obviously more perverse than most).
This is both the game's biggest strength and it's biggest weakness.
Having only played the filthy route so far, I have yet to encounter a single sex scene (as of version 0.775). There have been numerous sexual scenes, that were quite hot, but no oral, vaginal or anal sex (or anything like it). Yet.
Because the way the story is told, I am sure those things are coming. The creator is obviously playing the long game here, setting up a bunch of situations that the MC will go through and which will be all the more satisfying when we get to them, because of the build-up.
But whether you have the patience to get there, is up to you.

SPOILER:

Ver 0.075

A lot of dick and...

Pussy lips? I have never seen in this game.
Only some pubes.

This is a story about A woman, keep changing clothes and a bunch of bullshit.
By the way, the renders are great. That's it.
I hope someday I can see the lesbian+incest in this game.
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v0.08 Beta
Finally this time we can see the main character have sex with husband and giving handjob to her son.
Still, we didn't see any pussy.

I played this game some time ago, and recently came back to check what's new with it. I remember it used to be my fav game of all, and i thought it had potential, but when i played it recently i felt disappointed, this game is going no where , the dev ruined it.

1- There is no story, only irrelevant filler scenes, to increase development time.

2- Updates = nothing, no content nothing, I don't mind that there is no sex, but to have almost 0 content in an update is ridiculous, it's no respect to players.

3-Although the MC is one of the best looking female characters in current games, but to use a ready made DAZ3D character is lack of creativity and it makes me feel the dev doesn't want to have any input, he wants only output , if you know what I mean.
That's all i can think of, I will update my review later if it gets better

This is quite the neat little game!

I have been following this for quite some time now and it's really obvious that the developer has put a lot of effort into each and every character. The situations are fantastic and each character's personality feels believable and solid. Although some might say that the progression is on the slower side when it comes to games such as this, it makes it a lot more realistic, because people often do not change within a couple days or even weeks!

I'm really looking forward to any and all updates that may come in the future, thank you for your hard work!

Slow build, but it makes the payoff so much better. No explicit taboo scenes as of 0.0775 but great renders, and easy gameplay. Since it is a visual novel, no mindless grinding, just hold CTRL. One note, you cannot pursue every option in a single play through so save accordingly. I would also be nice if there was gallery.
Very excited to see where this goes in the future

4500 renders
15 of them are sex related
the other 4485 renders are non-pornographic

render quality 5/5 - the renders are great, but because there's barely any porn it rubs salt in the wound

story 3/5 - boring

coding 5/5 - game is solid in this dept

sex 0/5 - i'm pretty sure this is not a porn game and needs a tag indicating it's not an adult game, there's only one sex scene of about 15 renders out of 4500 renders that are non-pornographic.

stay away from this game at all costs, i don't consider it an adult porn game and there's no erotica, no stimulation, not good for fapping