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fh321

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Bloody Ink - respectfully, I'd like to ask if you wouldn't mind explaining why you made such a drastic change to your game with this update. I added the bugfix helpfully provided, and was able to play through (the majority of) the entire game. I did BOTH paths, "add-wife" and "don't-add" paths.

Yes. It took forever lol.

First, since I'm about to offer some criticism, I'd like to say how much I've enjoyed the hard work you've put into this game. It's been a lot of fun, and you've crafted an exciting and entertaining journey through the story you came up. Kudos, sincerely!

That being said... I don't think I've ever seen a successful, content-heavy game make such a drastic turn from the path it was on. Look, I'm not one to demand realism in porn, so that's not what this is. But the 'don't-add' choice makes the entire game from then on completely illogical. Just about every scene from then on I spent scratching my head in genuine befuddlement.

Maybe I'm the only one to notice this, but the 'don't-add' branch completely destroys the story. Why? Because the MC is literally using the app to turn his son into a woman, is being told by multiple people that the app is changing his wife, and is seeing his niece and his mother drastically suffering mental alterations from the app *in real time!* And while all this is happening, while the player is watching these events play out, the MC is simultaneously dismissing the "Unknown[devs]" as fanciful conspiracy theorists.

Your premise, which was believable enough to be immersive, is completely demolished by having a scene where the MC vows to protect his niece from a mind control app followed immediately by a scene where he tells the developers of said app "there's no such thing as a mind control app, stop bothering me you lunatics!" It's... well, I don't mean this personally (as I obviously enjoyed your game to this point), but it is just really jarring and stupid.

The 'don't-add' branch also drops sooooo much content. Multiple in-game days go by with nothing happening. All the content that was pulled - Kirely/Hearth/Onlyfans/Sola - would do a lot to fill in the massive gaps of idly waiting for an event (since we don't get to see anything going on with the wife in the don't-add branch). I started to look forward to laughing at the MC's absurd forced ignorance about the app, just to have a break in the tedium.

Okay, what about the 'add-path'? A lot of the original game content is there, but again; why remove so many choices? Specific choices seem to have been taken from the player, for reasons I can't figure out. As an example, in this update: there was no option to sacrifice the MC to save the niece; no option to have an affair with Lena; no option to see Kirely again after the first encounter; no option to confront the wife about cheating with boss; no option to stop the sister from hanging with her neighbor.

It's like you decided to turn the game into a straightforward VN, with only one significant choice for the player - don't add, or add. And from then on, the game just runs off its own volition, no input required. I've never seen that happen before.

Okay. That's all off my chest, phew! I'd like to close by saying thanks for the work you put in. I actually plan on joining your patreon to download an older version of the game to keep, because it really was a massive and deep AVN like no other. I'll def be looking out for any games you put out in the future! Cheers!
 

stahalle

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how the fuck do i add the mc to the phone when the wife not got added? i dont get the option what im doing wrong?
 

ayylmao1313

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how the fuck do i add the mc to the phone when the wife not got added? i dont get the option what im doing wrong?
yeah the choice is gone when you went not adding path for wife, idk what happened with the new updates, this game was my top 3 html games ever
 

stahalle

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yeah the choice is gone when you went not adding path for wife, idk what happened with the new updates, this game was my top 3 html games ever
im talking about this branch: " — The MC didn’t add the wife to the app but added himself (Alpha+cheating) – 50 steps " i hoped with this we get a proper route where the husband doesnt end up beiing a total cuck. but i dont get the option he only gets totaly paranoid and says that all working together against him.
 

QTmodz

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Bloody Ink - respectfully, I'd like to ask if you wouldn't mind explaining why you made such a drastic change to your game with this update. I added the bugfix helpfully provided, and was able to play through (the majority of) the entire game. I did BOTH paths, "add-wife" and "don't-add" paths.

Yes. It took forever lol.

First, since I'm about to offer some criticism, I'd like to say how much I've enjoyed the hard work you've put into this game. It's been a lot of fun, and you've crafted an exciting and entertaining journey through the story you came up. Kudos, sincerely!

That being said... I don't think I've ever seen a successful, content-heavy game make such a drastic turn from the path it was on. Look, I'm not one to demand realism in porn, so that's not what this is. But the 'don't-add' choice makes the entire game from then on completely illogical. Just about every scene from then on I spent scratching my head in genuine befuddlement.

Maybe I'm the only one to notice this, but the 'don't-add' branch completely destroys the story. Why? Because the MC is literally using the app to turn his son into a woman, is being told by multiple people that the app is changing his wife, and is seeing his niece and his mother drastically suffering mental alterations from the app *in real time!* And while all this is happening, while the player is watching these events play out, the MC is simultaneously dismissing the "Unknown[devs]" as fanciful conspiracy theorists.

Your premise, which was believable enough to be immersive, is completely demolished by having a scene where the MC vows to protect his niece from a mind control app followed immediately by a scene where he tells the developers of said app "there's no such thing as a mind control app, stop bothering me you lunatics!" It's... well, I don't mean this personally (as I obviously enjoyed your game to this point), but it is just really jarring and stupid.

The 'don't-add' branch also drops sooooo much content. Multiple in-game days go by with nothing happening. All the content that was pulled - Kirely/Hearth/Onlyfans/Sola - would do a lot to fill in the massive gaps of idly waiting for an event (since we don't get to see anything going on with the wife in the don't-add branch). I started to look forward to laughing at the MC's absurd forced ignorance about the app, just to have a break in the tedium.

Okay, what about the 'add-path'? A lot of the original game content is there, but again; why remove so many choices? Specific choices seem to have been taken from the player, for reasons I can't figure out. As an example, in this update: there was no option to sacrifice the MC to save the niece; no option to have an affair with Lena; no option to see Kirely again after the first encounter; no option to confront the wife about cheating with boss; no option to stop the sister from hanging with her neighbor.

It's like you decided to turn the game into a straightforward VN, with only one significant choice for the player - don't add, or add. And from then on, the game just runs off its own volition, no input required. I've never seen that happen before.

Okay. That's all off my chest, phew! I'd like to close by saying thanks for the work you put in. I actually plan on joining your patreon to download an older version of the game to keep, because it really was a massive and deep AVN like no other. I'll def be looking out for any games you put out in the future! Cheers!
I couldn't agree with you more tbh. When don't add wife I thought maybe there be more vids and hints from others showing what the wife is doing behind MC back to catch yea of guard but completely nothing until MC just gives up and Jenna then tries to turn yea into a sissy. I was like ffs turning me of completely!

Game could be great but all over the place atm
 

atrebor68

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My 2c.
It could have been a good game if it had not inserted strange elements like the fluid to become a woman ...
 

duckydoodoo

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how the fuck do i add the mc to the phone when the wife not got added? i dont get the option what im doing wrong?
unless something is broken in yours, the option to add MC should come in idk like 10 game days after he discusses it with wifespy people. theres a second conversation then mc appears in the add menu. I noticed a few character adds worked the same way, while some others were instant. Also on the dont add wife route, when I got to the point where i "saved" the wife and even after wifespy started to undo her brainswashing, she was never added nor placed in the add menu. I assumed at this point the add wife stuff would be unlocked but instead i ran to the end of branch steps available.

I actually liked this branch, bugs aside, especially as after the bugfix they werent as annoying and or game breaking as other update bugs tend to be. Was skeptical about this release back in the last one when it was being talked about. Granted I have not replayed the original add wife route so dont what the changes are like there, as for the new dont add wife route, I think it was a better update than most of the recent updates.
 
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stahalle

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unless something is broken in yours, the option to add MC should come in idk like 10 game days after he discusses it with wifespy people. theres a second conversation then mc appears in the add menu. I noticed a few character adds worked the same way, while some others were instant. Also on the dont add wife route, when I got to the point where i "saved" the wife and even after wifespy started to undo her brainswashing, she was never added nor placed in the add menu. I assumed at this point the add wife stuff would be unlocked but instead i ran to the end of branch steps available.

I actually liked this branch, bugs aside, especially as after the bugfix they werent as annoying and or game breaking as other update bugs tend to be. Was skeptical about this release back in the last one when it was being talked about. Granted I have not replayed the original add wife route so dont what the changes are like there, as for the new dont add wife route, I think it was a better update than most of the recent updates.
so does the option appears before or after "sandbox" starts? i think mine is broken then. the only ppl i get to add before sandbox starts are the wife, sis in law and son. after that i only get to add christina and lana.
 

Gorin158

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The update is not really bugged, it just changed the game a lot. Yes the saves are broken, so you have to start new game and I guess the big change is that the routes are now set and you dont really have choice after you start. Which is kinda lame, because it was nice to change what you want to do with different character and mix it up.
Now it just locks you in, depending on your maine route I guess (not 100% sure, didn't play all of them yet, but it sure looks like it).
The big example is niece. Where before you could pick from the 3 choices what you want to do, now it just automatically pics for you. Same with Wife (automatically forcing to quit the company job, breaking up with Greg...) and other characters as well.
I mean yeah I guess story wise it makes sanse, that you are doing the same thing with all the characters, but yea it was cool before where you could be alfa with some, and leave others for well others :D
Still a great game tho
 

Ploplo090909

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The truth is, I don't know what the creator of the game was thinking when making these changes. I loved the game and how it's going now. I don't even play it with a stick in 4 or 5 updates. I'll see if I've made it better and I'll keep the previous version for the sake of it. if you don't
 

duckydoodoo

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so does the option appears before or after "sandbox" starts? i think mine is broken then. the only ppl i get to add before sandbox starts are the wife, sis in law and son. after that i only get to add christina and lana.
the option to add mc is after lana when taking the dont add wife route, unless there were more changes to add wife route that im yet unaware of, adding mc is also after lana as well. so yeah, happens after the sandbox starts.

long term, i recommend adding the son, that way you can start kirely branch, the son's gf, which is required to unlock all the only fans quest lines. the passive income from those makes rebuilding mc into a business magnate much easier and faster. i accidently forgot to add son my first run through the dont add wife route yesterday. Now I have to go back and do it all again so long term I can have the higher income business unlocked sooner. did the slow grind in the original when i was already 100days plus in before buying an electronic shop was released, now that i know better, keeping all income options available.
 
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