Ren'Py A Wife's Phone [v0.6.5] [Bloody Ink/Scyxar Studios]

[joker2008]

Why did the fucking saveeditor stop working, it says that you changed the files with a third-party saveeditor and are you sure, you tell me, fuck it, I agree, and nothing happens. Lol, I even tried damn artmoney to change the steps and it didn't fucking work either. It takes more than 600 steps again to change some decision, this is a fucking mockery. DV I hope you have the courage to make a version where steps can be edited/added/specified.

The problem isn't just the save editor. Discussed this with him in discord. I actually understand why he did what did. I am not saying I agree with it. The game was very ambitious in the beginning but I don't want to rehash all that. You know all of that.
In order to make things manageable its not just the save files. Logic was edited so that certain changes in the save files will now break other things. I understand that too.

Now however as you're stating and I pointed this out in another post. You're telling people to go through another couple thousand "game days". And no matter what anyone says on here it would be another couple thousand game days.

Most people aren't going to have that kind of patience. Especially when the days start to become monotonous.

 

[joker2008]

Why did the fucking saveeditor stop working, it says that you changed the files with a third-party saveeditor and are you sure, you tell me, fuck it, I agree, and nothing happens. Lol, I even tried damn artmoney to change the steps and it didn't fucking work either. It takes more than 600 steps again to change some decision, this is a fucking mockery. DV I hope you have the courage to make a version where steps can be edited/added/specified.

I had put this down for a while because of after 4.5 .47 updates which is where all this started. Swore I wasn't going to go back. I read the FemDom part was coming back and piqued my interest a little bit. I knew I had both that path and my alpha path but i 6.0 and 6.5 to get those to work, which he doesn't want people using, you have to jump through hoops and there might still be issues.

I looked yesterday and saw there were 750 steps roughly on the val-jenna branch which is currently paused at around 90 and I was like "Do I really wanna do this?"

 

[joker2008]

I had put this down for a while because of after 4.5 .47 updates which is where all this started. Swore I wasn't going to go back. I read the FemDom part was coming back and piqued my interest a little bit. I knew I had both that path and my alpha path but in 6.0 and 6.5 to get those to work, which he doesn't want people using, you have to jump through hoops and there might still be issues.

I looked yesterday and saw there were 750 steps roughly on the val-jenna branch which is currently paused at around 90 and I was like "Do I really wanna do this?"

 

[Larsung]

The main issue is and I get it. According to the dev you should start a clean fresh game but if you're someone who had put serious time into the game that's a whole lot of grinding time and I've stated that before. You have some people who say it isn't but then you have periods where you may have to go through 5 or 6 days to advance once step on a branch and you have branches that are hundreds of steps long.

The game should have replayablility due to its separate branches but who's going through all those steps over and over again?

Some will say you can skip but to me skipping unless I misunderstand something would mean possibly missing content.

I think that's the main issue people have with starting a fresh clean game is that with the length of the game it's too little content, which can also mean doing the same thing over and over again, for such an extended amount of time.

Basically a case of too much effort for too little reward.

i mean more WHEN!! to save because a branch is splitting, cause it closes other branches ^^ and what NOT to choose if you are on alpha for example

 

[joker2008]

i mean more WHEN!! to save because a branch is splitting, cause it closes other branches ^^ and what NOT to choose if you are on alpha for example

Imagine a new player who is maybe a casual gamer. They're screwed...lol. There should have been a huge disclaimer under the "OVERVIEW" not in the release logs stating that old saves will break the actual logic in the game. Even trying to figure what exactly has been removed from certain paths is challenging. People have said the paths are out there. Yeah kind of but that's just really high level. The content has been vastly moderated into specific paths which is fine but the dev team are the only ones who know that 100% probably.

I've repeated this over and over here. I haven't touched "The Company" different game for awhile now and its a great game but Westane (DEV) posted it everywhere stating "if you do not want to start over again and again wait till I am done with the rewrite."

 

[joker2008]

i mean more WHEN!! to save because a branch is splitting, cause it closes other branches ^^ and what NOT to choose if you are on alpha for example

This is why Triple "A" games and development is such a risk. You can't go through your project be halfway through and then decide to scrap it.

This is what happened with "DNF" years ago and why when it came it out there was no way it would ever succeed. Mind you devs on here are not Triple "A" studios and they're not losing hundreds of millions of dollars but the project task for them is actually more difficult because its usually one person or a very small team. You don't have a person whose sole job is to have the foresight to see what the result of these decisions are.

And I'm not ripping on anyone. This is just how development works.

It's why people storyboard and flowchart sh*t out.

 

[Umbra_2079]

The fact that I don't know what branches rely on one another is not a problem. The fact that even the Dev doesn't appear to know, is a huge one.

I hate criticizing games that I love because more often than not, Devs decide to abandon the project rather than changing their direction.

 

[joker2008]

In all fairness to him. I think, in fact I would say, he does know based on discussions with him but again this comes back to independent developers. He doesn't have a dedicated tech writer/communications person who would normally go through the release notes and then they would create a document stating either everything that's been removed, moved or realigned. He's trying to spend his time on game development, story, patches, etc.

I really do think he is trying. And I know looking through some of the release notes some of the stuff is in there but on this project due to the mass amounts of changes. This is why I said people who are new to the game might not pick up on it but if you've been with the game for any length of time.

 

[joker2008]

I'd be curious and I don't know the answer but I think I have an idea. How many patreon game developers storyboard their stuff out beginning to end. I'm thinking the number is small and there is the question as to how much you let supporters dictate the direction of the story.

With Storyboarding you can stlll have changes but midway through a game's development you should not be making massive development changes to things. I mean you can but these games are more out in the open than something normally done in a development house. Major changes are going to be much more apparent. These games are developed more in like sprints.

 

[Larsung]

So if i get this right there are 4 Path:
Alpha
Cuckold
FemMC
Sissy MC
and depending on the major choice here the "questlines" opens/vanish
is that right!?

 

[Larsung]

and how to i start the Sissy path!? if i choose dont add wife, i am not added neither !?

 

[Survivor1000]

and how to i start the Sissy path!? if i choose dont add wife, i am not added neither !?

At some point something happened where you have to choose between a sissy path for yourself or a BBC path I believe. Don't know if you want to know at what point it is so I keep it vague. It works best I you don't add wife yes.

 

[medion]

I cant make the gallery unlocker work,i started the game twice and still doesnt unlock it...

 

[huddlestonkeith33]

So does Mc get control over his mom from Gerald
Does he get control over Jenna and Mrs salim

 

[Dgunslinger]

I am deep into the game, which i had to restart a few times because the damn save breaking updates and bugs. Ive been following the cuckold path for the most part.

I want to try out the Alpha path. What I wanted to understand was:

1. on Alpha path, can you still share your women?
2. Does Alpha path allow you access to you mom and sister?
3. Are there any women you lose access to any women / wife paths (like the onlyfaps). I mean I know her cheating might be disabled, but can she still be a slut on the MC's behest?
4. This may be a stupid one, but is there any way I can switch paths without having to restart (by disabling a branch or restarting it maybe.
5. Lastly, What's the difference between add wife and no add wife(she gets added later) Alpha routes

Also, How does the Alpha route impact Son's feminization?


Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[joker2008]

At some point something happened where you have to choose between a sissy path for yourself or a BBC path I believe. Don't know if you want to know at what point it is so I keep it vague. It works best I you don't add wife yes.

So I know the first choice is the gym and choosing not to help her that puts him on a cuck path. In the past after that is was how you answered certain questions from salim and jenna that would tend to lean towards the sissy path. I know Salim's seemed pretty obvious. Jenna's has some choices that veer towards becoming a sissy forgot what the are.

Then there's the whole become a female which is the "XY" app. I know there's the Paul/Niece thing with that not sure about other ways.

It gets kinda fuzzy after that though because if you look at some of his variables.
There is one for a female Mark
There is one for a female Mike
There is one I want to say for a male Kioko

there is where like I said some sort of guide besides the generic these are the paths.
there was a path where Paul could get involved with MC's wife not sure if that is still around.

There supposedly at one point was jenna/niece storylines, jenna/lana storylines.

I put the thing he shared with me on "OF" I have to look back at and see if I mention the wife's sisters "OF".

 

[joker2008]

There are actually just 2-3 choices that determine your route, everything else is basically just a choice between "show content" and "skip content" and doesn't have any meaningful impact (except for Wife's Job branch, where you have to chose if continue this branch or quit her job and start the "MC's companie" branch which i wouldn't recommend since the Wife's Job #1 branch's progress is required to get further into the Wife+Jenna branch, dev made some adjustments but the "Wife+MC's company" branch is mostly pantyhose fetish)

Add Wife + gym NTR off -> Alpha Route with Wife, Paul(a) branch and Niece romance branch, Hearth/Kirely/Sola branches
Add Wife + gym NTR on -> Cuck Route with Wife (most content), FemMC branches, No Niece #2 branch even after adding her to the app through the Wife+Paul choice, future Wife+Paul content possible on how the branch ends (to get to the newly added v0.5.0 FemMC content you've to refuse to Paul's deal when he requests the MC's wife and her sister)

no Add Wife + gym NTR off -> Alpha Route (Wife gets added to the MC's app later on), Paul(a) branch and Niece romance branch, Hearth/Kirely/Sola branches
no Add Wife + gym NTR on + MC Cuck branch step 6 "Sissy" -> Sissy Route, default Niece BBC branch, no XY App content
no Add Wife + gym NTR on + MC Cuck branch step 6 "Cuck"(w/o sissy tag) -> Cuck Route (netorare/netorase route later on), FemMC branches (leads into Niece BBC branch at the very end before content ends, future FemMc+Niece+Paul content possible on how it ends, Wife+Paul option to save her stops working at step 113 since you don't have access to the Wife's phone)
(to get to the newly added v0.5.0 FemMC content you've to refuse to Paul's deal when he requests the MC's wife and her sister)

"no Add Wife's Sister" content only works with the "no Add Wife" route since it requires "Wife not added step 48" to trigger.
Even after adding her to the MC's app shortly after in the noAddWife Alpha Route her "MC+Wife's Sister" branch doesn't show up, so no point in not adding her when going for the "gym NTR off" option for that route.

edit: slightly updated.

So the " newly added v0.5.0 FemMC content you've to refuse to Paul's deal when he requests the MC's wife and her sister ", Is that accessed through the normal Paul "XY" route? And I'm confused because one would think you wouldn't have wife and sister in the app on that one?

 

[huddlestonkeith33]

So does Mc get control over his mom from Gerald
Does he get control over Jenna and Mrs salim

 

[thokai]

So the " newly added v0.5.0 FemMC content you've to refuse to Paul's deal when he requests the MC's wife and her sister ", Is that accessed through the normal Paul "XY" route? And I'm confused because one would think you wouldn't have wife and sister in the app on that one?

Yes, you'll get to the FemMC content through the XY app choice in the Julia #1 branch. That branch is avaible in both the AddWife and noAddWife Cuck routes (Sissy route cancels the XY content by giving up the niece to BBC by default), as pointed out in my list in the noAddWife route the branch gets stuck if MC agrees to give his wife and her sister to Paul since you need access to the wifes phone at some point where she asks her sister to meet up with Paul.
The permanent FemMC "ending" happens through MC wanting to solve the issue on his own without dragging anyone else in.

FemMC and Feminized Sissy MC are not the same.

 

[joker2008]

Yes I know that its accessed through the julia branch #1. Also understand the difference between FEM MC and Sissy.
My thing is its sitting at step 58 saying waiting zero days.

According to some in the discord their saying supposedly jenna is involved on this path and that is probably the next step but again why the julia branch #1 looks like this.