I cannot download m and f app to cheak profile and move cecilia and the mc path forward. Is is bug can any on help me. I am on no add wife alpha path. can anybody help me?
- Apr 30, 2017
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How much do I hate this game? Let me count the ways.
This is actually more of a guide on HOW TO/HOW NOT to design games, in hopes of helping others. I'm a professional writer for Film & TV and I'm leaving this here so that some game developer does something good with it. [I get paid a lot of money for this type of breakdowns in show notes. But since I've enjoyed all the games on this platform for free, here's my contribution to thank all the game devs.]
1. Create a world/platform where your MC (and your other characters) are ACTIVE.
The characters have to act to make things happen (even the wife). This is perhaps the biggest problem with these transformation/feminization/sissification games in general. They all really on making the character(s) passive. On having things just happen to the characters. This game, in particular, takes that passivity to new lows by using the phone as the platform. So, most action is retroactive anyways (other than the moments where MC takes control of the camera app or answers messages on behalf of his wife).
Always remember the rule: "Someone wants something and is going to have a hard time getting it."
The more a player has to actively make choices the better it is. Even answering the messages on behalf of the wife can be better. How?
A. Choices in action and tone.
Make us decide between different actions in the response. Make us decide being overly lewd in response or sub.
B. Make the NPCs react to our choices.
If the response from the MC is more sub, let the NPCs react differently. If the response is different from what the NPCs desire, let them try to counter more effectively (not the same "fuck off" or "you're a slut" beat over and over again)
2. Make us be in the moment of the action.
A video or pic after the fact works for somethings like the wife's storyline because theoretically the MC is emotionally connected and has something real to lose. But it's mind-numbingly boring in the case of a daughter you just found out you have, have 0 connection with and you can't really do anything about anyways. That's just more noise. More content doesn't raise the value of a game automatically if you can't enjoy the content.
The hearing the wife have sex in the bathroom stall for the first time is one of the most visceral and successful moments in this game. Why? Because the MC wants to do something but can't. ACTIVE does not mean you're successful in your quests. Gives a developer so much to play with.
3. Ruined opportunities
There are some good storytelling moments in this game. Paul's betrayal and the step brother. Try to use moments like that to launch counters. Imagine how much better it would, if the MC could try to alter the mum's storyline or the niece's storyline. And the best part is that the MC doesn't even have to succeed for this to be good.
4. Avoid double beats.
Double beats lessen the emotional response. It's like of a hit of (choose your drug). Every subsequent hit of the same thing has diminished returns. Seeing one NPC send a dick pic is fine. Every male NPC every single time is boring AF. Vary that shit up. Get clever with your beats if you have to repeat them.
5. Let your audience add things up on their own.
This game repeats a lot of info. MC doesn't need Jenna to repeat messages that are already read and understood via the Control app. If you must relay repeated info, it should come with additional emotional component like videos and pics but really what you need is a choice to make things active.
6. Delays are death sentences.
There should absolutely no story reason to delay things in a game. If an event happens on the 3rd day or the 30th or the 300th or the 3000th, it makes no difference... Games are not reality. Put a fucking time jump in there. It's idiotic AF to scroll for 15 days to trigger a fucking event. That's shitty writing and any dev doing that deserves public shaming for it.
7. Make your characters evolve.
What many games do well that this game fails at is making the MC evolve as they make choices (luckily some of the NPCs at least evolve). Lock MC out of certain options depending on previous choices. Create a cost to the choices involved.
Hope this helps someone design a better game. Or at least message me to be your writer. So I don't have to cry on the inside about shitty stories.
This is actually more of a guide on HOW TO/HOW NOT to design games, in hopes of helping others. I'm a professional writer for Film & TV and I'm leaving this here so that some game developer does something good with it. [I get paid a lot of money for this type of breakdowns in show notes. But since I've enjoyed all the games on this platform for free, here's my contribution to thank all the game devs.]
1. Create a world/platform where your MC (and your other characters) are ACTIVE.
The characters have to act to make things happen (even the wife). This is perhaps the biggest problem with these transformation/feminization/sissification games in general. They all really on making the character(s) passive. On having things just happen to the characters. This game, in particular, takes that passivity to new lows by using the phone as the platform. So, most action is retroactive anyways (other than the moments where MC takes control of the camera app or answers messages on behalf of his wife).
Always remember the rule: "Someone wants something and is going to have a hard time getting it."
The more a player has to actively make choices the better it is. Even answering the messages on behalf of the wife can be better. How?
A. Choices in action and tone.
Make us decide between different actions in the response. Make us decide being overly lewd in response or sub.
B. Make the NPCs react to our choices.
If the response from the MC is more sub, let the NPCs react differently. If the response is different from what the NPCs desire, let them try to counter more effectively (not the same "fuck off" or "you're a slut" beat over and over again)
2. Make us be in the moment of the action.
A video or pic after the fact works for somethings like the wife's storyline because theoretically the MC is emotionally connected and has something real to lose. But it's mind-numbingly boring in the case of a daughter you just found out you have, have 0 connection with and you can't really do anything about anyways. That's just more noise. More content doesn't raise the value of a game automatically if you can't enjoy the content.
The hearing the wife have sex in the bathroom stall for the first time is one of the most visceral and successful moments in this game. Why? Because the MC wants to do something but can't. ACTIVE does not mean you're successful in your quests. Gives a developer so much to play with.
3. Ruined opportunities
There are some good storytelling moments in this game. Paul's betrayal and the step brother. Try to use moments like that to launch counters. Imagine how much better it would, if the MC could try to alter the mum's storyline or the niece's storyline. And the best part is that the MC doesn't even have to succeed for this to be good.
4. Avoid double beats.
Double beats lessen the emotional response. It's like of a hit of (choose your drug). Every subsequent hit of the same thing has diminished returns. Seeing one NPC send a dick pic is fine. Every male NPC every single time is boring AF. Vary that shit up. Get clever with your beats if you have to repeat them.
5. Let your audience add things up on their own.
This game repeats a lot of info. MC doesn't need Jenna to repeat messages that are already read and understood via the Control app. If you must relay repeated info, it should come with additional emotional component like videos and pics but really what you need is a choice to make things active.
6. Delays are death sentences.
There should absolutely no story reason to delay things in a game. If an event happens on the 3rd day or the 30th or the 300th or the 3000th, it makes no difference... Games are not reality. Put a fucking time jump in there. It's idiotic AF to scroll for 15 days to trigger a fucking event. That's shitty writing and any dev doing that deserves public shaming for it.
7. Make your characters evolve.
What many games do well that this game fails at is making the MC evolve as they make choices (luckily some of the NPCs at least evolve). Lock MC out of certain options depending on previous choices. Create a cost to the choices involved.
Hope this helps someone design a better game. Or at least message me to be your writer. So I don't have to cry on the inside about shitty stories.
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- Mar 31, 2020
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Is it possible to feminize the MC without the XY route, when I played last you could have MC buy feminine clothes for himself early on, but it never actually did anything with that choice, nor the choice where you choose whether to want to be a sissy, fuck them, or neither.
I'm still rooting for a Paula & Lena reunion, culminating in a beautifull FFM scene with the MC.
Sadly both lines have been dead for a while now.
It's mostly the FEM MC, SIS MC & SIS son that get attention in the updates.
It almost makes you believe that either there is nothing but male players out there that want to be dommed by other men in whatever shape or form, be it M/M, SIS/M, MTF/M.
Or that this game has a lot of female players that just want to play a more female/submissive perspective.
Anyway I'm just going to wait for an other 5years I guess & then maybe we have an alpha playthrough where you can transform & dom other people into a loving story ending.
Sadly both lines have been dead for a while now.
It's mostly the FEM MC, SIS MC & SIS son that get attention in the updates.
It almost makes you believe that either there is nothing but male players out there that want to be dommed by other men in whatever shape or form, be it M/M, SIS/M, MTF/M.
Or that this game has a lot of female players that just want to play a more female/submissive perspective.
Anyway I'm just going to wait for an other 5years I guess & then maybe we have an alpha playthrough where you can transform & dom other people into a loving story ending.
- Jan 3, 2019
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so for this game it heavily differentiates between sissy and feminized. You can be one or the other but not both.
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But that choice as far as I know comes early on...does it not?
I mean if you didn't add the son obviously you can't.
I know after the son start's messing with MC's wife he thinks about and you get the decision then.
Can you still feminize him after that way later on? That not sure of. I would think you could.
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You kidding me right? It's by far the most extensive route written even with femdom being added in the latest patch notes.
I have zero interest in that route, but even at first glance in the patch notes or just looking at the sheer amount of pictures for it in the image folder ... you should be able to figure it out.
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I mainly see the femdom and Fem MC routes in the changelog, just a few steps on the feminization route (is that the sissy MC path?).
So it's definitely not the most extensive route written.
hey buddy i just ignore them!! it dont change the story in any way, after the NEXT update ...you might need to go on it but for the current one...just leave them..
Ren
- Jan 3, 2019
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- Jan 3, 2019
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So Bloody finally added the Fem Domme piece...And I have to say...LOL SMH...It's apparent he has never actually met a Fem Domme in his life. And I know this because I know people in the lifestyle of all sorts for over 30 years. I was kind of holding out hope but it's brutal. When I say brutal it's not a compliment. It is just even a struggle to get through. The dialogue and having been around a ton of r/l Dommes I can honestly say that any Domme that acted like this would probably get knocked right the f*** out. If not by their slave/submissive then by a Mistress. I can tell you know half way logical or sane person would put up with this. And even if they were insane enough to. I guarantee some Dom or Domme would step in and be like enough.
Literally the MC has actually just turned into this character that is only there at this point for triage of every other story line.
I really was trying to hold out hope and I saw a comment on here the other day basically echoing what I am saying. What this game is becoming is extremely laughable at this point. You went from every choice in the world to no choices. The game is basically on rails. I don't see any real choice in direction or narrative.
WOW this went probably from one of the better games I was playing to one of the worst games on F95. And that's not piling on that's just being honest. It's awful. You might as well just had the wife and every other female in the game taking bbc in every single orfice from day one and working the corners and crack houses at night. At least then you would have saved people from the suffering this game inflicts.
Literally the MC has actually just turned into this character that is only there at this point for triage of every other story line.
I really was trying to hold out hope and I saw a comment on here the other day basically echoing what I am saying. What this game is becoming is extremely laughable at this point. You went from every choice in the world to no choices. The game is basically on rails. I don't see any real choice in direction or narrative.
WOW this went probably from one of the better games I was playing to one of the worst games on F95. And that's not piling on that's just being honest. It's awful. You might as well just had the wife and every other female in the game taking bbc in every single orfice from day one and working the corners and crack houses at night. At least then you would have saved people from the suffering this game inflicts.
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The writing has gotten worse and worse over time. I think the dev had grand ideas but then when it spiraled out of control he had no choice but to reign it back in. I think it got to a point where he could no longer manage it and that's due in part to the story being made up as they went along.
It's gotten so lazy and bad now that at one point, and this is just one example, Jenna decides she's going to stay at the MC's house for a while. The MC wants to ask her a question. Below is screencap of what we get. WTH would the MC text her if she's staying in the house. You can't say because she's at work or any other fantastical idea. By the way the wife's sister was supposed to come over on this day and that I guess got blown off completely. SMH...Perfect example of how not to deliver a story in a game.
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Sorry don't even want to post but if not I'll scream...This whole part with Jenna at the house has been going on for at least 30 min. There is no interaction and all it is, is click click click click click. No descison no nothing. You are locked in and all you can do click and click and watch. And to me what that signifies is that he was tired of writing code for this path and just said this is what I'm going to write and you're stuck with it...too bad.
It is some of the laziest and awful writing I've seen. I'm sorry I like a little gameplay with my games.
It is some of the laziest and awful writing I've seen. I'm sorry I like a little gameplay with my games.
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