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I enjoy the concept and while I didn't like the Daniel route at all since it was just an "I was going to use you but now I love you" then they fuck non-stop (had me mashing the enter key because it just kept going and going). It's just not that interesting. I was intrigued at first, interested in where things could go especially with him casually gifting her a dress. Thought maybe he'd start gifting her more stuff, wooing her with objects to get in her pants or somehow guilt her into something sexual in exchange for his "generosity."

Was kind of hoping you'd get the option to take her down a shameless slut path. Getting overconfident or corrupted by her new self and indulging in the affect it has on the men around her. For example flirting with guys to get special treatment. Offering to "repay" Daniel for that free dress in the changeroom. Little side scenes that maybe lead to something bigger if you keep doing it. Or other such stuff but that's just me and I'm not the writer nor the motivation to actually do so.

However the cg quality is pretty broad. Some look pretty good while others are pretty deformed and hard to look at. Scale is also pretty off as sometimes she's smaller than the guy other times she's almost twice their size. I like her design but it can be pretty hard to enjoy with the inconsistencies and vastly varying quality. I do like that it doesn't have the same super definition or sharp body types that some aicg does. The kind where they look muscular and anorexic at the same time and an over the top cheshire cat grin.

Interested to see where the game goes in the future. I've been avoiding much of the dev talk because I don't want to know everything.

I do have a question though. Are the routes mostly exclusive? I noticed if you hook up with Daniel that's just how it ends. Is there going to more content after a certain route is entered that allows more branching out? Like will she be able to hook up with Andrew but still get corrupted by Jerrod? Will she be able to cheat on Daniel? etc. Or are the routes more liniar?
 

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I enjoy the concept and while I didn't like the Daniel route at all since it was just an "I was going to use you but now I love you" then they fuck non-stop (had me mashing the enter key because it just kept going and going). It's just not that interesting. I was intrigued at first, interested in where things could go especially with him casually gifting her a dress. Thought maybe he'd start gifting her more stuff, wooing her with objects to get in her pants or somehow guilt her into something sexual in exchange for his "generosity."

Was kind of hoping you'd get the option to take her down a shameless slut path. Getting overconfident or corrupted by her new self and indulging in the affect it has on the men around her. For example flirting with guys to get special treatment. Offering to "repay" Daniel for that free dress in the changeroom. Little side scenes that maybe lead to something bigger if you keep doing it. Or other such stuff but that's just me and I'm not the writer nor the motivation to actually do so.

However the cg quality is pretty broad. Some look pretty good while others are pretty deformed and hard to look at. Scale is also pretty off as sometimes she's smaller than the guy other times she's almost twice their size. I like her design but it can be pretty hard to enjoy with the inconsistencies and vastly varying quality. I do like that it doesn't have the same super definition or sharp body types that some aicg does. The kind where they look muscular and anorexic at the same time and an over the top cheshire cat grin.

Interested to see where the game goes in the future. I've been avoiding much of the dev talk because I don't want to know everything.

I do have a question though. Are the routes mostly exclusive? I noticed if you hook up with Daniel that's just how it ends. Is there going to more content after a certain route is entered that allows more branching out? Like will she be able to hook up with Andrew but still get corrupted by Jerrod? Will she be able to cheat on Daniel? etc. Or are the routes more liniar?
Hello there WanWan.

Thank you so much for trying out the game. ❤
Regarding the Daniel Route: This route moves really fast on purpose. Simply because I wanted for the players to have a little sexual content to enjoy, while all the other routes were being slowly built up. There will probably be changes made later on, to make the route move at a more realistic pace.
To answer your questions:
- You will be able to have sexy times with other men as well, through the Daniel Route.
- Routes are not exclusive. Several routes will run simultaneously and branch out in new directions. However, at some point, these routes will bottle neck, and the player will be forced to choose which path to take. I want for the game to have a plethora of endings.
- Bella will be able to date Andrew, while being corrupted by Jerrod. NTR will be a major theme in the game (it is avoidable though).
- Also, CG's will be changed throughout the process. I will attempt to have a more consistent aesthetic. Visuals aren't my main focus though. I much more enjoy the writing and character building.

Again, thank you for trying it out. And thanks for the feedback. It's much appreciated.

Lot of Love
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Be nice if there was sound. At least a soundtrack.... But it's not bad writing so far, at least for the world of AVNs which are usually shit. Cohesive characters with established personalities and a narrative that runs smoothly.
 
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The art though. lol. Sorry. Got all the way through and must be honest on the inconsistency. One character even turned from white to black all in the same conversation. :ROFLMAO:
Shirts changing and entire art styles changing mid convo various times with characters. Could use some strong loras, maybe?
 
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The art though. lol. Sorry. Got all the way through and must be honest on the inconsistency. One character even turned from white to black all in the same conversation. :ROFLMAO:
Shirts changing and entire art styles changing mid convo various times with characters. Could use some strong loras, maybe?
Hi there Dontcarewhateverno.

Thank you so much for trying out the game. I appreciate it.
And thanks for the feedback.
The consistency of the art IS an issue. I am constantly throughout the process, from update to update, going back and exchanging old images. So the game will gradually (and hopefully) be more consitent aesthetically.
Can you tell me, when and where a character (supposedly) changes skin color? Cos that would be a MAJOR oversight on my part. And one I will look to instantly remedy.

Lots of Love
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Hi there Dontcarewhateverno.

Thank you so much for trying out the game. I appreciate it.
And thanks for the feedback.
The consistency of the art IS an issue. I am constantly throughout the process, from update to update, going back and exchanging old images. So the game will gradually (and hopefully) be more consitent aesthetically.
Can you tell me, when and where a character (supposedly) changes skin color? Cos that would be a MAJOR oversight on my part. And one I will look to instantly remedy.

Lots of Love
SAFFID
Sure. Bully Kid.

THIS is a white guy with a tan, as seen through the first half and majority of images.
Two different art styles in this first set. But in both: hair color, hair texture, facial features. Unmistakably a tan white guy. Same with the images that came before it. (Honestly, with the background situation you've written for him, it just rings much more true to keep him white, like he looks originally.. If you want a black character, add a different one or ones later). But also make the two white guy styles more consistent as one, ideally. There's still a definite art style change here.

(Also, no comma should be after "knew").
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Still a white guy, standing in shadows/bad lighting. Skin tone and warmth screams white guy standing in shadows to make him look ominous. Hair texture, face, white. Art style also different from above, but still white. (And *whimp should be spelled "wimp")
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THIS guy is black. lol. Or at least mixed SubSaharan. As much as this effete anime style can look black, anyway. Especially in hair texture. But also skin ( and not just darker lighting. Coloration & warmth of skin-tone itself clearly signifies black). Face looks like a character from Boondocks. Face too feminine and pretty, but the whole visage signifies anime black.
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I chose the path where MC figured it out for herself & recorded/blackmailed him for blackmailing her, so that's the majority of what I saw & what I have screenshots for. Not interested in the "submitting to rich privileged brat" trope. That vibe just makes him far too feminine, even as a muscular bully. But I did a quick text skip of two of the other paths as well in that decision afterwards and I think he looked clearly black in the path where she relented to his demands and came to his home too (maid path). Breezed/text-skipped through that one to see the ending since it's not my path of interest, so I don't have screenshots at the house. But definitely seemed black there also.
 
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Also, Grandma is Asian. lol. :WaitWhat: But at least she remains consistent throughout her scenes. Even if the art style is very different than other art styles shown later. screenshot0004.png
 
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Just skipped through the path I hadn't tried yet. Where she just agrees without trying any other alternatives first.


WHITE:

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But he turns black at full erection? :unsure: :WaitWhat:
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Back to white?
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Then turns black(ish)?
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And then white again?
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Ethnicity shifts all over the place for this character. Even if I were into this guy's paths, the changes are immersion breaking through the drastic lack of character cohesion, so I just wouldn't play it. It's just far too jarring and visually confusing in the narrative. Basically, you're going to need strong loras if you want continuity and visual story-telling cohesion. Or a lot of additional post-generation editing & maybe selective cropping.

The writing is good for an AVN, regardless of typos. I'd say a lot better than most, considering the routine schlock that's on F95Zone. But the visual consistency is a really big blocker that takes away from it all. Can be the difference between a $200 monthly amateur project on patreon vs a $1500+ monthly semi-pro or even better once it picks up momentum, if you were going to be monetizing it, or simply a much larger following if that's something you care about. Writing alone is better so far than a lot of $4k-$10k+ projects, some of which are pure crap story-wise (My New Girlfriend....) but they have that visual consistency.

If what you care about most is just getting a good story out with limited time investment without dragging out updates, having a completed project you made & can be proud of for the narrative, regardless of reach or visual cohesion, then keep it inconsistent. All depends on what you're prioritizing.
 
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Ethnicity shifts all over the place for this character. Even if I were into this guy's paths, the changes are immersion breaking through the drastic lack of character cohesion, so I just wouldn't play it. It's just far too jarring and visually confusing in the narrative. Basically, you're going to need strong loras if you want continuity and visual story-telling cohesion. Or a lot of additional post-generation editing & maybe selective cropping.

The writing is good for an AVN, regardless of typos. I'd say a lot better than most, considering the routine schlock that's on F95Zone. But the visual consistency is a really big blocker that takes away from it all. Can be the difference between a $200 monthly amateur project on patreon vs a $1500+ monthly semi-pro or even better once it picks up momentum, if you were going to be monetizing it, or simply a much larger following if that's something you care about. Writing alone is better so far than a lot of $4k-$10k+ projects, some of which are pure crap story-wise (My New Girlfriend....) but they have that visual consistency.

If what you care about most is just getting a good story out with limited time investment without dragging out updates, having a completed project you made & can be proud of for the narrative, regardless of reach or visual cohesion, then keep it inconsistent. All depends on what you're prioritizing.
Hi Dontcarewhateverno.

I really appreciate the feedback. ❤
I don't really agree with you, that Jerrod just looks like a tan white boy. But I see your point.
And I do agree, that his overall look is inconsistent. However, whether he looks like a white boy or not, that question is about to become irrelevant, cos I've already changed his look for next update. I initially chose his image, because I liked how sinister he looked. But that look has been too difficult to replicate consistently.
When I first started the project, I looked into various AI image generators, you know, with the loras and all that stuff. But see... the thing is... I'm technologically iliterate. :ROFLMAO:
And besides, I think the other AI image generated games all look the same. So I ended up actually being quite happy with the discount, shitty generator I'm using. HAHA!
It spits out interesting things from time to time. Sometimes it actually generates things that, although they're different from what I was looking for, they inspire me for new directions for scenes and sometimes even for storylines.
But as I said, character images will continuously be replaced throughout the process, Jerrod being one of them (and the next in line).

I appreciate your kind words about the writing. It's really nice to hear, that the one thing I put the most effort into and takes the most pride in is actually being appreciated and noticed. So thank you for that.

Lots of Love
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so when we gone get a new update ? it's has been 3 month and almost 4
Hi there zX_Xz.

Next update will probably be ready within the next two weeks. Progress is good and I'm well on track to hit that deadline.
The long wait has been due to a bunch of personal stuff. I didn't even look at the game for two months.But now... I'm all over it! ;)


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Hi Dontcarewhateverno.

I really appreciate the feedback. ❤
I don't really agree with you, that Jerrod just looks like a tan white boy. But I see your point.
And I do agree, that his overall look is inconsistent. However, whether he looks like a white boy or not, that question is about to become irrelevant, cos I've already changed his look for next update. I initially chose his image, because I liked how sinister he looked. But that look has been too difficult to replicate consistently.
When I first started the project, I looked into various AI image generators, you know, with the loras and all that stuff. But see... the thing is... I'm technologically iliterate. :ROFLMAO:
And besides, I think the other AI image generated games all look the same. So I ended up actually being quite happy with the discount, shitty generator I'm using. HAHA!
It spits out interesting things from time to time. Sometimes it actually generates things that, although they're different from what I was looking for, they inspire me for new directions for scenes and sometimes even for storylines.
But as I said, character images will continuously be replaced throughout the process, Jerrod being one of them (and the next in line).

I appreciate your kind words about the writing. It's really nice to hear, that the one thing I put the most effort into and takes the most pride in is actually being appreciated and noticed. So thank you for that.

Lots of Love
SAFFID
Sure. No problem.

Moot point I guess, but you probably didn't grow up around a lot of Sicilians. :ROFLMAO: (I guess the"not black" version of Jerrod can be Southern European, Arabic or Hispanic too, tbf. It just definitely wasn't black. While some of your later renders were).

Good to hear it's getting fixed with something more consistent. Keep up the good work on the writing.
 
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Hi there zX_Xz.

Next update will probably be ready within the next two weeks. Progress is good and I'm well on track to hit that deadline.
The long wait has been due to a bunch of personal stuff. I didn't even look at the game for two months.But now... I'm all over it! ;)


Lots of Love
SAFFID
Really excited for the update SAFFID. We hope we can have updates every month...lol

Thank you very much for this wonderful game~
 
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